OP, Go to sleep. It's way past your bed time.
It's actually nearly 11:30am here. I'm in Asia...
We paid about 15.5m extra for him because he was English.
Wish we'd just steer clear of English players altogether and just have youth to fill our quota.
I'd still keep him the team. The reason he keeps playing shiite is putting him in and out of the team. Sometimes on the left sometimes on the right. Occasionally through the middle. It won't help him long term. Give him 5 or 6 consecutive games playing the same role and watch him grow in confidence as he starts to feel like an important part of the team
He's had plenty of starts in each season but just doesn't do anything. His performance was pretty pathetic and let's face it its not the first time.
As crud was Walcott is at least he has end product. Oxlade has literally nothing in the final third. Couldn't even win a corner properly without falling over the clown.
Ox has already scored the best solo goal and we are only 3 games in. You idiots think a player is useless if he doesn't pull up trees every time he steps on the pitch
Hopefully fans will chill out on Walcott for a bit now. When he plays as a genuine wide player you get results whether it be an assist or goal. Again he looked very threatening yesterday and was tracking back.
As for Ox, he just needs to tighten up his game because at times its so loose.
Ox is criminally underrated.
A real talent.
He's the best dribbler in the league for goodness sake.
comment by Ramböue (U12551)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
I'd still keep him the team. The reason he keeps playing shiite is putting him in and out of the team. Sometimes on the left sometimes on the right. Occasionally through the middle. It won't help him long term. Give him 5 or 6 consecutive games playing the same role and watch him grow in confidence as he starts to feel like an important part of the team
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I get your point to an extent but by now Ox must know he needs to play with his head up. For all his raw talent and ability it benefits nobody except himsef.Even the chips, why does he keep doing it.
Ox and Theo are lucky Wenger just has a soft spot for them like Jack and Ramsey.Under different managers they would all have been culled
comment by The Godfather (U10154)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
Ox has already scored the best solo goal and we are only 3 games in. You idiots think a player is useless if he doesn't pull up trees every time he steps on the pitch
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Best solo goal? Even though Mane's solo goal in the same game was better? You People are idiots for not rating a player that plays average or below most of the time with the occasional great game. 4 goals was his best season, he needs to step it up this season.
Liquid genius you don't really think he's a better dribbler than Hazard do you?
comment by The Godfather (U10154)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Ox has already scored the best solo goal and we are only 3 games in. You idiots think a player is useless if he doesn't pull up trees every time he steps on the pitch
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U mean that deflected shot that the gk would have saved with ease? Really hope your not talking about that pre season goal against league 1 standard teams.
Think he needs regular runs in the team to improve. But he's not quite good enough for us. Would be good if we kept Campbell and loaned ox to a prem team, Southampton would be good for him. Or some sort of mid table team
He's a squad player really, nothing more. End product isn't really good enough. Would sell off in a year or 2 if you find another player who is better than him. But just not good enough really.
He's a mid-table/top half sort of player.
Liquid genius you don't really think he's a better dribbler than Hazard do you?
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Yes I do.
The stats back that up.
Look at the successful dribbles and dribble success pct numbers, and you'll see that Ox is better at it than Hazard. It's not even that close.
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 minute ago
Liquid genius you don't really think he's a better dribbler than Hazard do you?
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Yes I do.
The stats back that up.
Look at the successful dribbles and dribble success pct numbers, and you'll see that Ox is better at it than Hazard. It's not even that close.
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You are a WUM of the highest order.
Hazard is by far and away the better dribbler. Hazard is likely to give the ball away more as he plays more games and attempts more dribbles.
Do you not think there is a reason why Hazard gets linked with Real Madrid season after season and AOC is just a bit part player?
Ridiculous theory. Show me these stats.
Remember when people were saying Ox is better then Podolski
Ridiculous theory. Show me these stats.
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Use the Squawka comparison tool.
14-15 PL
Hazard completed 4.80 dribbles per 90, on 64 pct completion
Ox completed a whopping 5.01 dribbles per 90, on 67 pct
15-16 PL
Ox completed a staggering 71 pct of his dribbles; Hazard only 62 pct.
When we played Bayern away in 2014, Ox completed as many dribbles as the entire Bayern team (10).
Do you mean use the LiquidGenius brain here.
How many games did Oxlade Chaimberlin play in though, he will have a better completion than Hazard.
Look at this stat then, who creates more goals or chances per dribble? Hazard or Ox? I think it will be Hazard. That proves who the better dribbler is. The better dribbler is the one who gets the assists or goals, from the dribbles. So I think I'd place a very safe bet that would be Hazard. Or are you going to give me potentially more bullshat facts like usual. Just like your theory that "winning doesn't matter". Yeah, maybe that's why Arsenal finish 4th every year and not "winning" trophies.
That's one game though as well regardless of the opposition.
Very underrated.
Not a left-winger though - should be played as a right winger if he's going to start - both his dribbling and his crossing looks much better playing on his natural side.
Last season he was MOTM against Chelsea in the Community Shield down the right, and absolutely ran Azpilicueta ragged....Wenger says this will be his season to shine - plays one game in the PL and then gets dropped.
Comes back against Newcastle, gets us the winner/the only goal of the game, then gets dropped.
Overall, he played as a right-winger, a right-back, a left winger, an attacking midfielder, and a box-to-box defensive midfielder last season.
His injuries haven't helped, but constantly getting dropped even when he plays well, as well as being asked to play in 5 completely different positions over the course of the season is also likely to have contributed to his mixed form.
I mean, Ozil is arguably the most talented player we've had in years, and look how poor he looked when asked to play as a wideman. Same with Cazorla.
I don't see how Wenger expects to get the best out of a player when he keeps messing around with their selection and their position.
What exactly is the point of dribbling with the ball when he just falls over 5 seconds later, runs out of play or passes it straight to the other team?
Only reason why people rate him is because he's English. Any other nationality and he was have alot more haters.
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
What exactly is the point of dribbling with the ball when he just falls over 5 seconds later, runs out of play or passes it straight to the other team?
Y
Only reason why people rate him is because he's English. Any other nationality and he was have alot more haters.
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It is a shame. Our players definitely need more haters.
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 4 hours, 38 minutes ago
Ridiculous theory. Show me these stats.
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Use the Squawka comparison tool.
14-15 PL
Hazard completed 4.80 dribbles per 90, on 64 pct completion
Ox completed a whopping 5.01 dribbles per 90, on 67 pct
15-16 PL
Ox completed a staggering 71 pct of his dribbles; Hazard only 62 pct.
When we played Bayern away in 2014, Ox completed as many dribbles as the entire Bayern team (10).
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In 2014/15 Hazard completed 180 at 64% with Ox at 83 with 67% and 2015/2016 is similar with Hazard completing over double the dribbles with only a small drop off in success rate. The difference between try the percentage is not as significant as the difference between the actual amount of take ons. Did you use it for this season?
If he used it for this season Hazard will have more dribbles in 10 minutes than Oxlade-Chaimberlin probably.
Knowing him all of his stats will be sh@t anyway, made up.
When we played Bayern away in 2014, Ox completed as many dribbles as the entire Bayern team (10).
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I guess that is the only stats that we won in this game. I am wondering that Bayern did not come back with a 50 Million offer for him!
The difference between try the percentage is not as significant as the difference between the actual amount of take ons. Did you use it for this season?
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Yeah but the per 90 metrics are more useful since Ox misses a lot of games.
Total take-ons will favour the guy that plays way more minutes.
I didn't use it for this season, since it's too early.
But I've never seen Hazard dribble rings around a top team like Ox did to Bayern away in 2014 or United away in the Cup.
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posted on 28/8/16
OP, Go to sleep. It's way past your bed time.
posted on 28/8/16
It's actually nearly 11:30am here. I'm in Asia...
posted on 28/8/16
We paid about 15.5m extra for him because he was English.
Wish we'd just steer clear of English players altogether and just have youth to fill our quota.
posted on 28/8/16
I'd still keep him the team. The reason he keeps playing shiite is putting him in and out of the team. Sometimes on the left sometimes on the right. Occasionally through the middle. It won't help him long term. Give him 5 or 6 consecutive games playing the same role and watch him grow in confidence as he starts to feel like an important part of the team
posted on 28/8/16
He's had plenty of starts in each season but just doesn't do anything. His performance was pretty pathetic and let's face it its not the first time.
As crud was Walcott is at least he has end product. Oxlade has literally nothing in the final third. Couldn't even win a corner properly without falling over the clown.
posted on 28/8/16
Ox has already scored the best solo goal and we are only 3 games in. You idiots think a player is useless if he doesn't pull up trees every time he steps on the pitch
posted on 28/8/16
Hopefully fans will chill out on Walcott for a bit now. When he plays as a genuine wide player you get results whether it be an assist or goal. Again he looked very threatening yesterday and was tracking back.
As for Ox, he just needs to tighten up his game because at times its so loose.
posted on 28/8/16
Ox is criminally underrated.
A real talent.
He's the best dribbler in the league for goodness sake.
posted on 28/8/16
comment by Ramböue (U12551)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
I'd still keep him the team. The reason he keeps playing shiite is putting him in and out of the team. Sometimes on the left sometimes on the right. Occasionally through the middle. It won't help him long term. Give him 5 or 6 consecutive games playing the same role and watch him grow in confidence as he starts to feel like an important part of the team
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I get your point to an extent but by now Ox must know he needs to play with his head up. For all his raw talent and ability it benefits nobody except himsef.Even the chips, why does he keep doing it.
Ox and Theo are lucky Wenger just has a soft spot for them like Jack and Ramsey.Under different managers they would all have been culled
posted on 28/8/16
comment by The Godfather (U10154)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
Ox has already scored the best solo goal and we are only 3 games in. You idiots think a player is useless if he doesn't pull up trees every time he steps on the pitch
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Best solo goal? Even though Mane's solo goal in the same game was better? You People are idiots for not rating a player that plays average or below most of the time with the occasional great game. 4 goals was his best season, he needs to step it up this season.
Liquid genius you don't really think he's a better dribbler than Hazard do you?
posted on 28/8/16
comment by The Godfather (U10154)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Ox has already scored the best solo goal and we are only 3 games in. You idiots think a player is useless if he doesn't pull up trees every time he steps on the pitch
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U mean that deflected shot that the gk would have saved with ease? Really hope your not talking about that pre season goal against league 1 standard teams.
posted on 28/8/16
Think he needs regular runs in the team to improve. But he's not quite good enough for us. Would be good if we kept Campbell and loaned ox to a prem team, Southampton would be good for him. Or some sort of mid table team
posted on 28/8/16
He's a squad player really, nothing more. End product isn't really good enough. Would sell off in a year or 2 if you find another player who is better than him. But just not good enough really.
He's a mid-table/top half sort of player.
posted on 28/8/16
Liquid genius you don't really think he's a better dribbler than Hazard do you?
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Yes I do.
The stats back that up.
Look at the successful dribbles and dribble success pct numbers, and you'll see that Ox is better at it than Hazard. It's not even that close.
posted on 28/8/16
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 minute ago
Liquid genius you don't really think he's a better dribbler than Hazard do you?
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Yes I do.
The stats back that up.
Look at the successful dribbles and dribble success pct numbers, and you'll see that Ox is better at it than Hazard. It's not even that close.
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You are a WUM of the highest order.
Hazard is by far and away the better dribbler. Hazard is likely to give the ball away more as he plays more games and attempts more dribbles.
Do you not think there is a reason why Hazard gets linked with Real Madrid season after season and AOC is just a bit part player?
Ridiculous theory. Show me these stats.
posted on 28/8/16
Remember when people were saying Ox is better then Podolski
posted on 28/8/16
Ridiculous theory. Show me these stats.
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Use the Squawka comparison tool.
14-15 PL
Hazard completed 4.80 dribbles per 90, on 64 pct completion
Ox completed a whopping 5.01 dribbles per 90, on 67 pct
15-16 PL
Ox completed a staggering 71 pct of his dribbles; Hazard only 62 pct.
When we played Bayern away in 2014, Ox completed as many dribbles as the entire Bayern team (10).
posted on 28/8/16
Do you mean use the LiquidGenius brain here.
How many games did Oxlade Chaimberlin play in though, he will have a better completion than Hazard.
Look at this stat then, who creates more goals or chances per dribble? Hazard or Ox? I think it will be Hazard. That proves who the better dribbler is. The better dribbler is the one who gets the assists or goals, from the dribbles. So I think I'd place a very safe bet that would be Hazard. Or are you going to give me potentially more bullshat facts like usual. Just like your theory that "winning doesn't matter". Yeah, maybe that's why Arsenal finish 4th every year and not "winning" trophies.
That's one game though as well regardless of the opposition.
posted on 28/8/16
Very underrated.
Not a left-winger though - should be played as a right winger if he's going to start - both his dribbling and his crossing looks much better playing on his natural side.
Last season he was MOTM against Chelsea in the Community Shield down the right, and absolutely ran Azpilicueta ragged....Wenger says this will be his season to shine - plays one game in the PL and then gets dropped.
Comes back against Newcastle, gets us the winner/the only goal of the game, then gets dropped.
Overall, he played as a right-winger, a right-back, a left winger, an attacking midfielder, and a box-to-box defensive midfielder last season.
His injuries haven't helped, but constantly getting dropped even when he plays well, as well as being asked to play in 5 completely different positions over the course of the season is also likely to have contributed to his mixed form.
I mean, Ozil is arguably the most talented player we've had in years, and look how poor he looked when asked to play as a wideman. Same with Cazorla.
I don't see how Wenger expects to get the best out of a player when he keeps messing around with their selection and their position.
posted on 28/8/16
What exactly is the point of dribbling with the ball when he just falls over 5 seconds later, runs out of play or passes it straight to the other team?
Only reason why people rate him is because he's English. Any other nationality and he was have alot more haters.
posted on 28/8/16
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
What exactly is the point of dribbling with the ball when he just falls over 5 seconds later, runs out of play or passes it straight to the other team?
Y
Only reason why people rate him is because he's English. Any other nationality and he was have alot more haters.
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It is a shame. Our players definitely need more haters.
posted on 28/8/16
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 4 hours, 38 minutes ago
Ridiculous theory. Show me these stats.
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Use the Squawka comparison tool.
14-15 PL
Hazard completed 4.80 dribbles per 90, on 64 pct completion
Ox completed a whopping 5.01 dribbles per 90, on 67 pct
15-16 PL
Ox completed a staggering 71 pct of his dribbles; Hazard only 62 pct.
When we played Bayern away in 2014, Ox completed as many dribbles as the entire Bayern team (10).
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In 2014/15 Hazard completed 180 at 64% with Ox at 83 with 67% and 2015/2016 is similar with Hazard completing over double the dribbles with only a small drop off in success rate. The difference between try the percentage is not as significant as the difference between the actual amount of take ons. Did you use it for this season?
posted on 28/8/16
If he used it for this season Hazard will have more dribbles in 10 minutes than Oxlade-Chaimberlin probably.
Knowing him all of his stats will be sh@t anyway, made up.
posted on 28/8/16
When we played Bayern away in 2014, Ox completed as many dribbles as the entire Bayern team (10).
-------------------------------------------------------------
I guess that is the only stats that we won in this game. I am wondering that Bayern did not come back with a 50 Million offer for him!
posted on 28/8/16
The difference between try the percentage is not as significant as the difference between the actual amount of take ons. Did you use it for this season?
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Yeah but the per 90 metrics are more useful since Ox misses a lot of games.
Total take-ons will favour the guy that plays way more minutes.
I didn't use it for this season, since it's too early.
But I've never seen Hazard dribble rings around a top team like Ox did to Bayern away in 2014 or United away in the Cup.
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