Although United plan to use Jones as a defender, he played mostly in midfield for us last season and sorry to say is a lot better than henderson
£16 Million cash+a player valued at £4 Million = £20 Million deal?!
But according to the mancs Henderson is a joke of a signing for such a young and unproven player... yet Jones represents value in the market and is the future England CB.
Manc logic
If defenders are normally cheaper than midfielders, and United have paid £17M for a defender, while Liverpool paid £20M for a midfielder, then that would suggest that Jones is seen as a better defender than Henderson as a midfielder?
That Liverpool and Arsenal were after Jones, and he chose the competition at United over them, must hurt you?
Both good young players, a little expensive because their English but thats the premier league for you.
This transfer deal is an absolute utter disgrace. Ngog is worth keeping hold of whereas Jordy Henderson isn't half as good as Spearing.
comment by BigHardSteGerrard (U5488)
But according to the mancs Henderson is a joke of a signing for such a young and unproven player... yet Jones represents value in the market and is the future England CB.
Manc logic
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But according to the livers Jones is a joke of a signing for such a young and unproven player... yet Henderson represents value in the market and is the future England CM.
Liver logic.
According to Jones, Man United are preferable to Liverpool.
Jones logic.
Sorry mate but the total cost to us is £20m not £16m as we could have sold Ngog for £4m to someone else, he had a value.
On the surface we didnt get a great deal and have paid top price, but he is very young with bags of potencial so only time will tell.
Both signings are risks on young players but I do believe both will become good players even if they don't justify their price tags.
To be honest I dont know much about either player, It surprises me that so many people on here are so clued up about Jones and Henderson considering blackburn and Sunderland were probbly only on live tv last season a hanful of times. These fans must have the extraordinary ability to follow their own team and tune into every sunderland and blackburn match as well.
Im hapt o admit I know little about our new siging. Im grown up enough to see that both clubs have taken a gamble spending money on young and relatively unproven talent. I'm smart enough to know that only time will tell if these deals are good.
Most (not all) man utd fans are basing Jones being the best thing since sliced bread on a fantastic block he made against united the day they won the league, which is pathetic really
Its hard to tell if they'll be good anyway.
Smalling is a good case, for Fulham I saw him score an own goal and give away a couple of penatlies and look pretty much hopeless in defence but he came good.
WRONG...the total cost of this to the club is 16 million.
Ill explain!!.... Kenny has been given lets say 50 million to spend.. out of that he has now SPENT 16 million. We paid 1.5 million for NGog so you could say the transaction has cost the club 17.5 million...but as there is a new budget each season it represents a transaction of only 16 million.
WRONG...the total cost of this to the club is 16 million.
Ill explain!!.... Kenny has been given lets say 50 million to spend.. out of that he has now SPENT 16 million. We paid 1.5 million for NGog so you could say the transaction has cost the club 17.5 million...but as there is a new budget each season it represents a transaction of only 16 million.
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The total VALUE is 20mil though.
Plus the cost of replacing N'Gog with a squad striker.
The little details hardly matter though because both signings are fairly equal risks.
You better watch out - Deloitte and Touche will be head-hunting all you financial experts soon
Value means absolutely nothing though.... only 16 million changes hands...and we dont HAVE to replace NGog at all, as we bought Carroll and Suarez who replaced one striker Torres.... all that matters is Kenny has 34 million left to Spend NET.
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If you compare it to the prices that have been bandied about for Wickham and Oxdale-Chamberlain then he's a bargain
comment by Onto Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, OOOOHHHHH YAAAAAAAA BEEEUUUUTYYYYYY!!!!!!!! (U1892)
Absolutely spot on.
There is no way on this planet that the people slating Henderson have watched him play a lot. If they did yuo have to question why they have not been watching their own team.
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posted on 9/6/11
Although United plan to use Jones as a defender, he played mostly in midfield for us last season and sorry to say is a lot better than henderson
posted on 9/6/11
£16 Million cash+a player valued at £4 Million = £20 Million deal?!
posted on 9/6/11
But according to the mancs Henderson is a joke of a signing for such a young and unproven player... yet Jones represents value in the market and is the future England CB.
Manc logic
posted on 9/6/11
If defenders are normally cheaper than midfielders, and United have paid £17M for a defender, while Liverpool paid £20M for a midfielder, then that would suggest that Jones is seen as a better defender than Henderson as a midfielder?
That Liverpool and Arsenal were after Jones, and he chose the competition at United over them, must hurt you?
posted on 9/6/11
Both good young players, a little expensive because their English but thats the premier league for you.
posted on 9/6/11
This transfer deal is an absolute utter disgrace. Ngog is worth keeping hold of whereas Jordy Henderson isn't half as good as Spearing.
posted on 9/6/11
comment by BigHardSteGerrard (U5488)
But according to the mancs Henderson is a joke of a signing for such a young and unproven player... yet Jones represents value in the market and is the future England CB.
Manc logic
____________________________________________
But according to the livers Jones is a joke of a signing for such a young and unproven player... yet Henderson represents value in the market and is the future England CM.
Liver logic.
According to Jones, Man United are preferable to Liverpool.
Jones logic.
posted on 9/6/11
Sorry mate but the total cost to us is £20m not £16m as we could have sold Ngog for £4m to someone else, he had a value.
On the surface we didnt get a great deal and have paid top price, but he is very young with bags of potencial so only time will tell.
posted on 9/6/11
Both signings are risks on young players but I do believe both will become good players even if they don't justify their price tags.
posted on 9/6/11
To be honest I dont know much about either player, It surprises me that so many people on here are so clued up about Jones and Henderson considering blackburn and Sunderland were probbly only on live tv last season a hanful of times. These fans must have the extraordinary ability to follow their own team and tune into every sunderland and blackburn match as well.
Im hapt o admit I know little about our new siging. Im grown up enough to see that both clubs have taken a gamble spending money on young and relatively unproven talent. I'm smart enough to know that only time will tell if these deals are good.
Most (not all) man utd fans are basing Jones being the best thing since sliced bread on a fantastic block he made against united the day they won the league, which is pathetic really
posted on 9/6/11
Its hard to tell if they'll be good anyway.
Smalling is a good case, for Fulham I saw him score an own goal and give away a couple of penatlies and look pretty much hopeless in defence but he came good.
posted on 9/6/11
WRONG...the total cost of this to the club is 16 million.
Ill explain!!.... Kenny has been given lets say 50 million to spend.. out of that he has now SPENT 16 million. We paid 1.5 million for NGog so you could say the transaction has cost the club 17.5 million...but as there is a new budget each season it represents a transaction of only 16 million.
posted on 9/6/11
WRONG...the total cost of this to the club is 16 million.
Ill explain!!.... Kenny has been given lets say 50 million to spend.. out of that he has now SPENT 16 million. We paid 1.5 million for NGog so you could say the transaction has cost the club 17.5 million...but as there is a new budget each season it represents a transaction of only 16 million.
---
The total VALUE is 20mil though.
Plus the cost of replacing N'Gog with a squad striker.
The little details hardly matter though because both signings are fairly equal risks.
posted on 9/6/11
You better watch out - Deloitte and Touche will be head-hunting all you financial experts soon
posted on 9/6/11
Value means absolutely nothing though.... only 16 million changes hands...and we dont HAVE to replace NGog at all, as we bought Carroll and Suarez who replaced one striker Torres.... all that matters is Kenny has 34 million left to Spend NET.
posted on 9/6/11
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posted on 9/6/11
If you compare it to the prices that have been bandied about for Wickham and Oxdale-Chamberlain then he's a bargain
posted on 9/6/11
comment by Onto Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, OOOOHHHHH YAAAAAAAA BEEEUUUUTYYYYYY!!!!!!!! (U1892)
Absolutely spot on.
There is no way on this planet that the people slating Henderson have watched him play a lot. If they did yuo have to question why they have not been watching their own team.
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