about as useful as young though better stats at villa and their player of the year

Not in my opinion.

Anyways this is about his England performance which is utter rubbish, he gets in cause he has a left foot.

Thats it.

... and Young scores

OH DID YOU SEE THAT DOWNING !!! AWESOME ASSIST

LEGEND

Haha good job you two

he just proved you to be the little bitter WUM just because he plays for liverpool he is useless nice logic you numpty

Doesnt take much to gain legendary status on Merseyside does it

He might be good enough for Liverpool but he doesnt have an international pedigee.

Rabbit in the headlights

and you would know would you

oh dear we must all take you vast amounts of footballing knowledge and take it all for fact

Its an opinion.... thats what this website is for.

You dont agree, fair enough. No need to call me a wum though.

Your being far to over-sensitive.

comon, we both know if young was at liverpool and downing at man utd, you would swear young is useless and downing is world class..

its just how you plastics are though we are used to it.

I've posted article previously on BBC606 about Downings shocking performance for England and the fact he only gets in as he has a left foot.

Think what you want, your just proving what everyones been saying about Liverpool fans and they're oversensitivity on JA606

not at all mate, but its hard to take someone seriously when they say things like downing=useless as if it was fact lol...

just because he has a left foot, that is a stupid thing to say and it shows you clearly have no football knowledge what so ever or your that bitter you dont actually watch him play

I think he's useless so i say it, quite simple really.

I respect your opinion and i do everyones, i also dont resort to childish remarks about footballing knowledge like i'm some sort of professor.

I've seen Downing a lot over the years and my opinion has hardly changed, he can look as great in club football, but whe stepping up he's just not good enough.

As i said he gave the ball away about 8 times in 20mins, you cant do that against top teams, and they weren't difficult passes he screwed up either.

lol its england are you watching the same game?

we was shocking as a team for 40 minutes out of the 45, yet bitters like you single out downing and give pathetic excuses as to why, oh he only got in cause he has a left foot comon dude your the child here

smallings not helping him out either, hes been useless this game. and probably gave more balls away through bad passes even that easy one down the line for r00ney.

oh dear young just got shrugged off the ball and lost possesion YET again must be useless.

That nice.... please stay on topic or i will, delete you.

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Is oversensitivity the new delusional? TBF not much sensitivity, just a disagreement.

As for Downing not impressing at international level, I think he, like Young has never been given a fair shot for England. Both seem to be in the plans now, a good thing in my eyes.

Disagreement, fair enough.

But i dont like being called a wum just cause i share a different view to someone else.

The oversensitive part is due to some Liverpools fans who are unable to take criticism without labelling the criticiser a wum.

Being a bit sensitive there Albert

I do agree you shouldn't be labelled a WUM for not rating Downing, but the way you put it was a tad inflammatory

The Liverpool board recently has been a WUM haven, and a lot of posters on here have their backs up. The Admins were talking about it last night and I think some people are just bored of the lack of debate. In the end it doesn't help anyone as most people are here to air their views and have a good debate.

Back to the point though I think both Downing and Young will be integral for England in the next 4 years as they ow have much more pressure at club level to perform. The way they've started, they both seem to be thriving, more than I expected.

Maybe if it was posted on the Liverpool board i could see how it would be inflammetry but its on the England one.

Maybe the title was more influenced through the frustration of Downings first twenty mins, he's obviously not completely useless, however i dont rate him as an international footballer.

Fair enough, he hasn't impressed in the past I agree. Will have to wait and see how it pans out if he gets a run. I honestly think both Downing and Young could be integral for England, the both add things that other players don't in my eyes. Rooney is very good in the air, and if they can continue as they have started, it may be promising.

True, especially the bit about being at bigger clubs now.

Big test will be in the summer at the Euros!