Look at the outcry this week when around 39 child refugees were freed from the ‘jungle’ in Calais.**

Sorry to correct you statto but there are no refugees at the Calais 'Jungle' as you call it, everyone is their through choice (want only to reside in the U.K) and automatically became economic migrants once they passed through the first safe european country on arrival into europe

Some of them are older than sandy

comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 5 minutes ago
Some of them are older than sandy
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I understand there have been many adults trying to pose as children. However when they reach the UK are sent back again.

I guess if I was unfortunate enough to be a refugee, living in abject misery, (a camp that is being destroyed in a couple of days) leaving me destitute, I’d probably be desperate enough to try the same.

However when they reach the UK are sent back again. **

err, again, you're just making sweeping statements, they are not sent back at all.

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 5 minutes ago
Some of them are older than sandy
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I understand there have been many adults trying to pose as children. However when they reach the UK are sent back again.

I guess if I was unfortunate enough to be a refugee, living in abject misery, (a camp that is being destroyed in a couple of days) leaving me destitute, I’d probably be desperate enough to try the same.
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you would have travelled through several safe european countries that you could have claimed asylum in just to get to the camp dry your eyes

They had one kid on the news, 13-14 not sure from Syria, brother is here so he has every right to enter the country, far enough. But wait a second he won't be living with his brother, but is being put with a foster family.

Why ain't his brother looking after him? The only reason he is here.

comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 13 seconds ago
They had one kid on the news, 13-14 not sure from Syria, brother is here so he has every right to enter the country, far enough. But wait a second he won't be living with his brother, but is being put with a foster family.

Why ain't his brother looking after him? The only reason he is here.
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He is going to stay with Lily Allen and Gary Lineker on alternate weekends

GunaDave

You’ll probably find he (like thousands of others) are here as his country has been devastated by war. Which the UK have contributed to.

just avoid answering the questions put to you then

Have any of these celebrities who called out to Europe housed any yet?

I guess if I was unfortunate enough to be a refugee, living in abject misery, (a camp that is being destroyed in a couple of days) leaving me destitute, I’d probably be desperate enough to try the same

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Id probably try somewhere more welcoming and easier to get to tbh like germany

comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 5 minutes ago
Some of them are older than sandy
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I understand there have been many adults trying to pose as children. However when they reach the UK are sent back again.

I guess if I was unfortunate enough to be a refugee, living in abject misery, (a camp that is being destroyed in a couple of days) leaving me destitute, I’d probably be desperate enough to try the same.
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you would have travelled through several safe european countries that you could have claimed asylum in just to get to the campdry your eyes
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You do know that several of these safe countries take in as many, if not more, refugees than The UK?

So why not try a country that is still taking in refugees?

comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 5 minutes ago
Some of them are older than sandy
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I understand there have been many adults trying to pose as children. However when they reach the UK are sent back again.

I guess if I was unfortunate enough to be a refugee, living in abject misery, (a camp that is being destroyed in a couple of days) leaving me destitute, I’d probably be desperate enough to try the same.
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you would have travelled through several safe european countries that you could have claimed asylum in just to get to the campdry your eyes
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You do know that several of these safe countries take in as many, if not more, refugees than The UK?
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that doesn't have any relevance to me pointing out that no one in the camp is a genuine refugue does it?

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"Fearmongering from the tabloids/UKIP etc also helped to create mass hysteria that the UK was ‘overcrowded.’"
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It is not fearmongering, England IS overcrowded and that is where the vast majority of the immigrants want to live.
England has 1,100 people per square mile - only Bangladesh, Taiwan, South Korea, Lebanon and Rwanda have more people per square mile.

To put it into perspective Spain has 240 people per square mile, France has 300 people per square mile and even Germany has under 600 people per square mile. So yes, if Europe wants immigrants these countries are going to need to take TENS of millions before England should start taking any.

So stop bullsh|tting about hysteria - the problem is very real...

comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 5 minutes ago
Some of them are older than sandy
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I understand there have been many adults trying to pose as children. However when they reach the UK are sent back again.

I guess if I was unfortunate enough to be a refugee, living in abject misery, (a camp that is being destroyed in a couple of days) leaving me destitute, I’d probably be desperate enough to try the same.
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you would have travelled through several safe european countries that you could have claimed asylum in just to get to the campdry your eyes
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You do know that several of these safe countries take in as many, if not more, refugees than The UK?
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that doesn't have any relevance to me pointing out that no one in the camp is a genuine refugue does it?
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In your expert opinion?

Bless you and your fascist views.

comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Sir Digby (U6039)
posted 5 minutes ago
Some of them are older than sandy
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I understand there have been many adults trying to pose as children. However when they reach the UK are sent back again.

I guess if I was unfortunate enough to be a refugee, living in abject misery, (a camp that is being destroyed in a couple of days) leaving me destitute, I’d probably be desperate enough to try the same.
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you would have travelled through several safe european countries that you could have claimed asylum in just to get to the campdry your eyes
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You do know that several of these safe countries take in as many, if not more, refugees than The UK?
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that doesn't have any relevance to me pointing out that no one in the camp is a genuine refugue does it?
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In your expert opinion?

Bless you and your fascist views.
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revert to plan b when question is answered, get nasty and personal, you're pathetic mate

Koeman

I'm interested in how you come to the conclusion that those in Calais are economic migrants? Is it your extensive work in immigration? Have you spoken to refugees and asked why they are coming to The UK?

Nothing nasty about calling you a fascist, it's what you are and has been proven.

Stuart

I realise that, my question was why isn't his brother footing the bill, why is the state looking after him. He is only here because he has family here surely it is their responsibility to look after him not us tax payers.

comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 2 minutes ago
Stuart

I realise that, my question was why isn't his brother footing the bill, why is the state looking after him. He is only here because he has family here surely it is their responsibility to look after him not us tax payers.
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Is it possible they haven't tracked down the lads Brother yet?

comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
Koeman

I'm interested in how you come to the conclusion that those in Calais are economic migrants? Is it your extensive work in immigration? Have you spoken to refugees and asked why they are coming to The UK?

Nothing nasty about calling you a fascist, it's what you are and has been proven.
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Like I say you're an idiot, you ask questions you get answers to those questions, you dont like the answers and then you throw your toys out of the pram, there will be no more correspondence between us from now on, you've had enough chances.

No you dolt, he was on the news with his brother all smiling and happy that he wouldn't have to pay a penny for his upkeep.

comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
Koeman

I'm interested in how you come to the conclusion that those in Calais are economic migrants? Is it your extensive work in immigration? Have you spoken to refugees and asked why they are coming to The UK?

Nothing nasty about calling you a fascist, it's what you are and has been proven.
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Like I say you're an idiot, you ask questions you get answers to those questions, you dont like the answers and then you throw your toys out of the pram, there will be no more correspondence between us from now on, you've had enough chances.
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What answer?

You spouted your fascist opinion as if it's fact. I've asked where you get the classification they are economic migrants from?

Now who's throwing the toys out the pram? We know, and have proven, which side of the fence you sit on.

comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 2 minutes ago
No you dolt, he was on the news with his brother all smiling and happy that he wouldn't have to pay a penny for his upkeep.
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I only asked because I haven't seen the news clip yet. Thought it was a story out of that rag so haven't read it.

ItsAboutTheBackFour

With respect, the populace per square mile ratio argument is absolute nonsense, (and was debunked a long time ago). The vast majority of people are not housed in the countryside. Furthermore humans do not live in lakes, rivers, roads etc etc. People live in towns and cities.

As I noted the ONS, (Office of National Statistics) calculated migration to be around 0.14% of the population. If the UK were to cut migration to the tens of thousands, the universal economic data demonstrates that it would damage, an already slowing, economy.

The above aside if the UK is to forge new trading agreements treaties will incorporate migrants from the bloc/country it wishes to trade with.