Wasn't just west ham fans last night though was it?
But it always seems to be them in the thick of it this season.
When Spurs go to the Olympic stadium it will be the same.
Then more needs to be done, reduce the capacity!
Introduce bigger segregation areas between the 2 sets of fans!
Bring more police in at a charge to Westham!
The segregation in the concourses needs improvement from what they said on the radio.
Cops can't have a proper presence due to issues with communication inside the ground, they should never have been allowed move into the ground if this is the case.
Club have been disgraceful here, putting money ahead of basic fan safety.
Cant owners anyway glad it's not working out for them. If it keeps happeneing they should be docked points / kicked out of a cup depending what comp the trouble happens in.
Feel bad for genuine West Ham fans who just want to go to the game, but it's every week now you hear something and inside the ground, outside is another matter but inside, that's the clubs responsibility and they don't seem to be doing anything to tackle the issue.
don't worry the spurs boys will sort em out in a couple weeks when they come to the lane
If they can't control their fans inside or outside the ground, then make them play behind closed doors
You get the impression they rushed into the decision to move without really thinking about the logistics and doing a thorough risk assesment.
Like I said in another thread look at the difference between the way McFc worked with the common wealth organisers to have a proper plan for the stadium afterwards to the absolute mess West Ham and the government did with the Olympic stadium.
Kick them out of the stadium so they have nowhere to play and if they can't finance a new stadium of their own, tough!!
maybe they can play on the car parks Chelsea have behind the goals
Is this turning out a good deal for tax payers in London.
Snipers in the lighting gantries.
They probably wouldn't be able to get a radio signal up there.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/homophobic-john-terry-song-sheet-9134185
Now West Ham fans are homaphobic as well as violent.
What a horrible bunch they are.
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 16 minutes ago
They probably wouldn't be able to get a radio signal up there.
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What do they need radios for? They just shoot s.
Not sure how they'd get up there with so much ammunition though.
Is it really violence and west ham, or is it more the continued reemergence of violence in english football in general?
From the outside looking in there seems to be a large feeling of disenfranchisement in the country i general that looks to be spilling over into football violence again.
It's never really gone away though. Sure it's a lot less than the 70s/80s, but it's never actually gone away.
This is why, I think, people blame the stadium - it's not set up like other stadiums to avoid these things getting to such a point. There's plenty of strife between certain club's fans up and down the country every week - they can't help it, they're animals.
Is this really the legacy the government and Olympic committee wanted violence against children women, homaphobic chanting.
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 8 minutes ago
It's never really gone away though. Sure it's a lot less than the 70s/80s, but it's never actually gone away.
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probably true, but it seems more prevalent in the last year or so. Pitch invasions, the trouble in france, now fighting within stadiums. Its worrying.
Well, if it's on the increase the police are arresting fewer of them....
http://www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/home-office-2015-arrest-stats
This is going back a few years, but interesting:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/oct/09/football-related-arrests-by-club-offence
Always said Bristol is a sh-thole.
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 8 minutes ago
Well, if it's on the increase the police are arresting fewer of them....
http://www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/home-office-2015-arrest-stats
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There's a difference between football related arrests and hooliganism.
anyone who has watched the footage from last night would likely suggest that 7 arrests was a little lower than you would expect for crowd trouble like that.
Well, obviously. But assuming the police are effective to a similar level over time, it's hardly unreasonable to assume that they would follow near identical trends.
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posted on 27/10/16
Wasn't just west ham fans last night though was it?
posted on 27/10/16
But it always seems to be them in the thick of it this season.
When Spurs go to the Olympic stadium it will be the same.
posted on 27/10/16
Then more needs to be done, reduce the capacity!
Introduce bigger segregation areas between the 2 sets of fans!
Bring more police in at a charge to Westham!
posted on 27/10/16
The segregation in the concourses needs improvement from what they said on the radio.
posted on 27/10/16
Cops can't have a proper presence due to issues with communication inside the ground, they should never have been allowed move into the ground if this is the case.
Club have been disgraceful here, putting money ahead of basic fan safety.
Cant owners anyway glad it's not working out for them. If it keeps happeneing they should be docked points / kicked out of a cup depending what comp the trouble happens in.
Feel bad for genuine West Ham fans who just want to go to the game, but it's every week now you hear something and inside the ground, outside is another matter but inside, that's the clubs responsibility and they don't seem to be doing anything to tackle the issue.
posted on 27/10/16
don't worry the spurs boys will sort em out in a couple weeks when they come to the lane
posted on 27/10/16
If they can't control their fans inside or outside the ground, then make them play behind closed doors
posted on 27/10/16
You get the impression they rushed into the decision to move without really thinking about the logistics and doing a thorough risk assesment.
Like I said in another thread look at the difference between the way McFc worked with the common wealth organisers to have a proper plan for the stadium afterwards to the absolute mess West Ham and the government did with the Olympic stadium.
posted on 27/10/16
Kick them out of the stadium so they have nowhere to play and if they can't finance a new stadium of their own, tough!!
posted on 27/10/16
maybe they can play on the car parks Chelsea have behind the goals
posted on 27/10/16
Is this turning out a good deal for tax payers in London.
posted on 27/10/16
Snipers in the lighting gantries.
posted on 27/10/16
They probably wouldn't be able to get a radio signal up there.
posted on 27/10/16
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/homophobic-john-terry-song-sheet-9134185
Now West Ham fans are homaphobic as well as violent.
What a horrible bunch they are.
posted on 27/10/16
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 16 minutes ago
They probably wouldn't be able to get a radio signal up there.
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What do they need radios for? They just shoot s.
Not sure how they'd get up there with so much ammunition though.
posted on 27/10/16
Is it really violence and west ham, or is it more the continued reemergence of violence in english football in general?
From the outside looking in there seems to be a large feeling of disenfranchisement in the country i general that looks to be spilling over into football violence again.
posted on 27/10/16
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posted on 27/10/16
It's never really gone away though. Sure it's a lot less than the 70s/80s, but it's never actually gone away.
This is why, I think, people blame the stadium - it's not set up like other stadiums to avoid these things getting to such a point. There's plenty of strife between certain club's fans up and down the country every week - they can't help it, they're animals.
posted on 27/10/16
Is this really the legacy the government and Olympic committee wanted violence against children women, homaphobic chanting.
posted on 27/10/16
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 8 minutes ago
It's never really gone away though. Sure it's a lot less than the 70s/80s, but it's never actually gone away.
-------------------------
probably true, but it seems more prevalent in the last year or so. Pitch invasions, the trouble in france, now fighting within stadiums. Its worrying.
posted on 27/10/16
Well, if it's on the increase the police are arresting fewer of them....
http://www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/home-office-2015-arrest-stats
posted on 27/10/16
This is going back a few years, but interesting:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/oct/09/football-related-arrests-by-club-offence
Always said Bristol is a sh-thole.
posted on 27/10/16
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 8 minutes ago
Well, if it's on the increase the police are arresting fewer of them....
http://www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/home-office-2015-arrest-stats
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's a difference between football related arrests and hooliganism.
anyone who has watched the footage from last night would likely suggest that 7 arrests was a little lower than you would expect for crowd trouble like that.
posted on 27/10/16
Well, obviously. But assuming the police are effective to a similar level over time, it's hardly unreasonable to assume that they would follow near identical trends.
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