About time we told this tin-pot club of thieves and liars to shove their rules and their stupid anthem where the sun doesn't shine.

They obviously don't want to damage their legitimate (yeah I know ) revenue streams.

Fk em

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Good to see the FA and SFA have both said they're going to ignore the ban.

#4zA wearing a poppy isn't political or religious, it's a sign of remembrance unassociated with any particular event, therefore it's not against the rules.

FIFA are misinterpreting it's meaning and claiming it's political or religious which it certainly isn't.

Don't mix sport and politics.

It is that simple, not hard to understand now is it?

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there is a lot of poppy fascism in the UK

ppl start wearing the things from about mid Oct these days

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comment by #4zA (U19575)
posted 5 hours, 9 minutes ago
would it be ok for the Japanese team to proudly wear the manji?
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No, because the Manji is a religious symbol. The poppy isn't.

It was ok for England to wear poppy's 5 years ago and was ok for Ireland to wear a symbol commemorating The Easter Rising.

Stop being a devils advocate. You know this is a bullsh!t ruling from FIFA.

Wear it, and to fack with FIFA.

comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 7 hours, 26 minutes ago
Don't mix sport and politics.

It is that simple, not hard to understand now is it?
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Why not? Sports teams boycotting South Africa played a significant role in bringing apartheid to an end. That was undeniably political, but I don't think people would say it was a bad thing. Generally I agree that politicians shouldn't delve into the world of sport, but it's not the clear cut issue you suggest.

FFS...this is FIFA....

They have as much clout as the Liberal Democrats

feck em....

also...if we're thrown out...we can't embarrass ourselves when we qualify

Don't know what the issue is - Scotland players wear a chip on their shoulder every game to commemorate all our failures

Why should we be dictated to by a bunch of
corrupt caants.

Just slip em a few quid and that will be that

Do people realise that you can remember and show respect without a poppy. You can also donate money at ANY time of the year.

Never wear one because if you need a meaningless bit of plastic or metal to show how much you care then clearly you don't actually care and it's really all for show.

The poppy is more about shaming than remembering as far as I can see these days.

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Unfortunately the poppy seems to have been
hijacked by certain groups who use it as a symbol
to provoke prejudice using extreme examples
and tarring the majority with the same brush

Some ex soldiers have written letters to suggest that the poppy thing is not about remembrance anymore

many feeling that the increasing focus on wearing poppies is about justifying recent wars rather than remembrance

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comment by ToddFenwick (U21133)
posted 4 minutes ago
Unfortunately the poppy seems to have been
hijacked by certain groups who use it as a symbol
to provoke prejudice using extreme examples
and tarring the majority with the same brush
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Aah, I see now. I was a bit confused until then since I was failing to see how remembering the dead from a war that involved half the world could be at all a political statement as FIFA suggests.

Is this a case that some idiot/nutter extremist groups somewhere have hijacked the poppy as "their symbol" meaning that FIFA see it as potentially inadvertently supporting some nutty minority's radical cause?

Unfortunately this happens quite a bit, something pure and unifying gets hijacked by a bunch of nutters who over time make it something else. There was a beeb documentary on the best example of this. I have Jamaican parents who were there at the time so was taught this by them when I was a kid but I can honestly say I didn't believe it truly until I saw this doc.

The first "Skinheads" were smartly and trendily dressed (for the time) young Jamaican black and English white people TOGETHER skankin to music. For the time it was a symbol of unity not division and an avenue/catalyst toward positive integration.

And look at what it means in the mainstream, to be a "Skinhead" these days.

Sod what FIFA want. I'd happily see us boycott the world cup next time round if we were given the chance to vote to.

Personally I'm all for ignoring FIFA since I see the remembrance issue being one than effects everybody the world over. If everyone spent more time remembering how many people we've already killed over bull dung political or religious agendas. Then maybe we wouldn't be continuing to repeat to the same cycle.

Humanity as a race is the very definition of insanity

Diildo in Thatcher's dead erse

comment by Sömeday_693 - Elneny will be our salvatio... (U8892)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 7 hours, 26 minutes ago
Don't mix sport and politics.

It is that simple, not hard to understand now is it?
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Why not? Sports teams boycotting South Africa played a significant role in bringing apartheid to an end. That was undeniably political, but I don't think people would say it was a bad thing. Generally I agree that politicians shouldn't delve into the world of sport, but it's not the clear cut issue you suggest.
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Because sport is about sport, and not politics.

It is a dangerous path to walk down.

The rules are there, and need to be followed. If the FA and players care some much, they can always donate their bloated pay check to the British legion