Tradionally Utd.

Depends what you call success. Liverpool won a lot of trophies in the 2000's with a strong youth presence.

Meant currently Robbing

Dortmund have a shout, maybe not so much so the last couple of years trophy wise, but have had a lot of success with a core of young players.

We don't know who's been successful yet though. Liverpool have a young side and could win something. Ditto Spurs I guess. City have some amazing young players that will play a big part in their season too.

Difficult question to answer. Ourselves and city have plenty of youth around our squads with managers happy to trust them, but the young players aren't key players in either side.

Spurs have a lot of youth, and while it worked last season, it hasn't this so far. So I think it would be misleading to call it successful.

Who.are the youth products getting games for Liverpool, City and Spurs?

In Stones, Sterling, Sane and Iheanacho City have four of the best young players in their position in world football.

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There were loads last season as we were in Europe. Bit harder for the young Liverpool lads this season with less games and a massive squad though. Trent-Alexander, Ejaria and Woodburn all played tonight though.

Southampton

Yeah Southampton just seem to have a production line of quality youngsters that come through every season.

Southampton and Ajax always have talented youngsters coming through.

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I see what you're getting at though. You think Jose shouldn't get slated for not using youth as there are few examples of teams mixing success and lots of youth.

I'm going to have to break it to you that it's more to do with the dI reCtion of youth. So City are developing the players mentioned and they are getting better and making solid contributions. Same with Spurs. We've seen young players progress and more coming like Winks. Ditto Liverpool.

Jose is shiiiiiiit at it though. Utd's young players are going backwards and that's if they get a game. Sorry.

That's what the Utd fans are getting at.

comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
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In Stones, Sterling, Sane and Iheanacho City have four of the best young players in their position in world football.
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Quailty from the City Youth production line signed for around £150m between them

You couldn't just make your point in the original thread

I think if we are counting stones and sterling then united can count shaw and pogna.

And what success have Southampton and Liverpool had for all their youth players?

Maybe not trophies but success imo is bringing these young lads through and trusting them enough to play them. Then making their clubs millions in doing so instead of going for instant success like Man Utd/Chelsea etc

Mean ffs Chelsea have about 900 kids out on loan wasting away

comment by Reddevilsdouble - confident of a top 4 finish (U12215)
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I think if we are counting stones and sterling then united can count shaw and pogna.

And what success have Southampton and Liverpool had for all their youth players?
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I dunno. HOW'S ABOUT A SOUL?

I'm going to take stab in the dark and guess you've never seen Utd be sh!t. Football clubs are about community as well you know. Young lads going through the system and then making the first team or having a decent career.

But United, Chelsea, Bayern, Real are expected to challenge for trophies, which is far less likley unless they get a truly exceptional group of talents.

Robbing,I'm just trying to understand who these elite clubs and managers are that are able to win titles and trophies with sides littered with youth products.

Newsflash - there aren't many

No-one is saying you have to field an academy side but it doesn't mean you have to make young players sh!t either.

Utd have some good players under 23 but I can't think of a single one that is getting better.

Which young players has Jose made 5hit?

Robbing - who are these under 23 year olds that you want to see tomorrow?

Well it's early days but Rashford, Martial and Shaw stick out like a sore fvcking thumb mate!

You then have players like CBJ and TFM who now don't get a sniff. Why? Because Utd's back four is Valencia, Jones, Rojo and Darmian?

Why am I even having to write this? Youth and attacking football are what Utd are about.

Simeone and Atletico are probably the best at the moment. Even then there's been a lack of success, on the trophy front, and still a reliance on older, experienced players. But that's to be expected. You can't just throw a load of youngesters into a team and expect them to be successful on their own.

Rash ford is getting game time. OK neons the wing but SAF would be doing exactly the same with him.

Shaw got stick from LVG as well. Plus he has been injured a lot during Joses time so far.

Martial has been 5hite. OK this could be Joses fault but it could also be the dreaded second season or his extra marital affairs, or his sullen attitude.

I know what the united way is, but at the moment Jose will be judged on success, not playing some young lad for the sake of pleasing the odd fan who would soon change his tune if it cost us a result.