Fonte's decent and he obviously helps his defenders excel, but I'm still unsure whether he's actually that good. I know we were interested in him but I wpnder why nobody has picked him up if he's as good as is made out.
Well he's nearly 33, so that would be the main reason.
Buying over 30's is pretty uncool these days.
Not for us. And it is his 5th season in the prem.
Yeah but you were asking why nobody else had picked him up. Well that's probably why.
I don't think Chelsea would be that bothered either. It's something to consider, of course, I just also get the impression he's not actually that good. Strikes me as a decent defender that goes about his business quietly and is a good partner for more talented defenders.
Wouldn't have minded him as cover for our crocked defence, though.
15m for the best cb on the league and one of the best in Europe?
I'll have what you're smoking, mate.
comment by davered (U1262)
posted 1 day, 11 hours ago
Just to recap guys , that i obviously made a mistake in his valuation but would he be the answer to our defence or are we sufficient enough as we are?
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Ok enough mate.
Van Dijk is better than Matip and Lovren by quite a margin. But having said that I'd give Lovren some more time. He was patchy in the beginning and, but he's working on his understanding with Matip. It could be a solid defence, albeit not worldclass. Always felt David Luiz was underrated, especially after he had to leave Chelsea, he would be a better option than Lovren and is similar to van Dijk, cheaper and decent.
Anyway, you're doing well so I'd stick with the current setup. Though I'd never start with Wijnaldum. He doesn't bring enough to the table imo.
comment by Dragonage (U19794)
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comment by davered (U1262)
posted 1 day, 11 hours ago
Just to recap guys , that i obviously made a mistake in his valuation but would he be the answer to our defence or are we sufficient enough as we are?
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Ok enough mate.
Van Dijk is better than Matip and Lovren by quite a margin. But having said that I'd give Lovren some more time. He was patchy in the beginning and, but he's working on his understanding with Matip. It could be a solid defence, albeit not worldclass. Always felt David Luiz was underrated, especially after he had to leave Chelsea, he would be a better option than Lovren and is similar to van Dijk, cheaper and decent.
Anyway, you're doing well so I'd stick with the current setup. Though I'd never start with Wijnaldum. He doesn't bring enough to the table imo.
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I think its hard to judge Matip given its not even christmas yet but i think he looks phenomenal.
Alderwereild for me is the best centre back in the league, i said it earlier up i think Jose Fonte is the one to poach from Southampton tbh.
comment by Tiddles - Firminos manbun (U17634)
posted 5 days, 10 hours ago
comment by Dragonage (U19794)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by davered (U1262)
posted 1 day, 11 hours ago
Just to recap guys , that i obviously made a mistake in his valuation but would he be the answer to our defence or are we sufficient enough as we are?
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Ok enough mate.
Van Dijk is better than Matip and Lovren by quite a margin. But having said that I'd give Lovren some more time. He was patchy in the beginning and, but he's working on his understanding with Matip. It could be a solid defence, albeit not worldclass. Always felt David Luiz was underrated, especially after he had to leave Chelsea, he would be a better option than Lovren and is similar to van Dijk, cheaper and decent.
Anyway, you're doing well so I'd stick with the current setup. Though I'd never start with Wijnaldum. He doesn't bring enough to the table imo.
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I think its hard to judge Matip given its not even christmas yet but i think he looks phenomenal.
Alderwereild for me is the best centre back in the league, i said it earlier up i think Jose Fonte is the one to poach from Southampton tbh.
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Ok, I'll be honest. Lovren might not be the cb you're looking for. Had hopes he would come good, but it seems unlikely. I'd try to get Fonte from Souhtampton, he's better than Lovren, but is merely decent. Eventually you will have to replace him if you don't want to splash the cash for a younger and better player.
Not sure why people regard Alderwereld as the best cb. Sure, he is a top defender and may be even worldclass, but statistically he wasn't the best last season (but I do rated him in the top 3 in the league) and this season he is worse and statistically not even in the top 5.
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posted on 2/12/16
Fonte's decent and he obviously helps his defenders excel, but I'm still unsure whether he's actually that good. I know we were interested in him but I wpnder why nobody has picked him up if he's as good as is made out.
posted on 2/12/16
Well he's nearly 33, so that would be the main reason.
Buying over 30's is pretty uncool these days.
posted on 2/12/16
Not for us. And it is his 5th season in the prem.
posted on 2/12/16
Yeah but you were asking why nobody else had picked him up. Well that's probably why.
posted on 2/12/16
I don't think Chelsea would be that bothered either. It's something to consider, of course, I just also get the impression he's not actually that good. Strikes me as a decent defender that goes about his business quietly and is a good partner for more talented defenders.
Wouldn't have minded him as cover for our crocked defence, though.
posted on 2/12/16
15m for the best cb on the league and one of the best in Europe?
I'll have what you're smoking, mate.
posted on 2/12/16
comment by davered (U1262)
posted 1 day, 11 hours ago
Just to recap guys , that i obviously made a mistake in his valuation but would he be the answer to our defence or are we sufficient enough as we are?
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Ok enough mate.
Van Dijk is better than Matip and Lovren by quite a margin. But having said that I'd give Lovren some more time. He was patchy in the beginning and, but he's working on his understanding with Matip. It could be a solid defence, albeit not worldclass. Always felt David Luiz was underrated, especially after he had to leave Chelsea, he would be a better option than Lovren and is similar to van Dijk, cheaper and decent.
Anyway, you're doing well so I'd stick with the current setup. Though I'd never start with Wijnaldum. He doesn't bring enough to the table imo.
posted on 3/12/16
comment by Dragonage (U19794)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by davered (U1262)
posted 1 day, 11 hours ago
Just to recap guys , that i obviously made a mistake in his valuation but would he be the answer to our defence or are we sufficient enough as we are?
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Ok enough mate.
Van Dijk is better than Matip and Lovren by quite a margin. But having said that I'd give Lovren some more time. He was patchy in the beginning and, but he's working on his understanding with Matip. It could be a solid defence, albeit not worldclass. Always felt David Luiz was underrated, especially after he had to leave Chelsea, he would be a better option than Lovren and is similar to van Dijk, cheaper and decent.
Anyway, you're doing well so I'd stick with the current setup. Though I'd never start with Wijnaldum. He doesn't bring enough to the table imo.
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I think its hard to judge Matip given its not even christmas yet but i think he looks phenomenal.
Alderwereild for me is the best centre back in the league, i said it earlier up i think Jose Fonte is the one to poach from Southampton tbh.
posted on 8/12/16
comment by Tiddles - Firminos manbun (U17634)
posted 5 days, 10 hours ago
comment by Dragonage (U19794)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by davered (U1262)
posted 1 day, 11 hours ago
Just to recap guys , that i obviously made a mistake in his valuation but would he be the answer to our defence or are we sufficient enough as we are?
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Ok enough mate.
Van Dijk is better than Matip and Lovren by quite a margin. But having said that I'd give Lovren some more time. He was patchy in the beginning and, but he's working on his understanding with Matip. It could be a solid defence, albeit not worldclass. Always felt David Luiz was underrated, especially after he had to leave Chelsea, he would be a better option than Lovren and is similar to van Dijk, cheaper and decent.
Anyway, you're doing well so I'd stick with the current setup. Though I'd never start with Wijnaldum. He doesn't bring enough to the table imo.
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I think its hard to judge Matip given its not even christmas yet but i think he looks phenomenal.
Alderwereild for me is the best centre back in the league, i said it earlier up i think Jose Fonte is the one to poach from Southampton tbh.
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Ok, I'll be honest. Lovren might not be the cb you're looking for. Had hopes he would come good, but it seems unlikely. I'd try to get Fonte from Souhtampton, he's better than Lovren, but is merely decent. Eventually you will have to replace him if you don't want to splash the cash for a younger and better player.
Not sure why people regard Alderwereld as the best cb. Sure, he is a top defender and may be even worldclass, but statistically he wasn't the best last season (but I do rated him in the top 3 in the league) and this season he is worse and statistically not even in the top 5.
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