come on be real, sanchez has achieved more at arsenal than ozil. every big game ozil goes missing i didn'y even notice ozil against utd and city. big time bottler
wow. half the player david silva is.
ozil walking round and is forgiven for going missing in big matches when you really need him. But as long as he plays 2 decent passes hay
comment by LeedsRich - Sell up now and Fook off home! (U18097)
posted 45 seconds ago
wow. half the player david silva is.
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Put Silva in the Leeds team and he would look hopeless
comment by FredN (U21316)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by LeedsRich - Sell up now and Fook off home! (U18097)
posted 45 seconds ago
wow. half the player david silva is.
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Put Silva in the Leeds team and he would look hopeless
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leeds is hopeless anywhere wouldn't make much difference if they had ronaldo and messi in same team
comment by FredN (U21316)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by LeedsRich - Sell up now and Fook off home! (U18097)
posted 45 seconds ago
wow. half the player david silva is.
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Put Silva in the Leeds team and he would look hopeless
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doubt that, pablo hernandez is brilliant in it, and silva far far far superior to pablo.
although i dont get the point you are trying to make.
you saying the arsenal team is rubbish and thus ozil struggles?
comment by Viva_Ronaldo (U19085)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by FredN (U21316)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by LeedsRich - Sell up now and Fook off home! (U18097)
posted 45 seconds ago
wow. half the player david silva is.
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Put Silva in the Leeds team and he would look hopeless
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leeds is hopeless anywhere wouldn't make much difference if they had ronaldo and messi in same team
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lol you are just a cuuuuuunt - so i dont care what you have to say, had better debates with my dog than you.
ou saying the arsenal team is rubbish and thus ozil struggles?
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Yes!
Put any genius in front of Xhaka and Coquelin with Oxlade Chamberlain and Walcott as your passing options and he is going to look suspect.
Pail is great against the west hams, Sunderlands, Hull & the rest of the dross but you put him up against decent players who want it more and he's a passenger.
No steel or grit, he was anonymous yesterday and let Williams run off him midweek for the goal. He's a luxury that you can't afford when the chips are down.
comment by LeedsRich - Sell up now and Fook off home! (U18097)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Viva_Ronaldo (U19085)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by FredN (U21316)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by LeedsRich - Sell up now and Fook off home! (U18097)
posted 45 seconds ago
wow. half the player david silva is.
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Put Silva in the Leeds team and he would look hopeless
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leeds is hopeless anywhere wouldn't make much difference if they had ronaldo and messi in same team
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lol you are just a cuuuuuunt - so i dont care what you have to say, had better debates with my dog than you.
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you talk to your dog now i understand why 99% of leeds fan are fluffing cuckoo
Ozil played below average yesterday because Xhaka and Coq were very poor and the back four dropped to deep.
The question I would ask was why ozil was supposed to be marking Williams in the first place.
comment by FredN (U21316)
posted 32 seconds ago
ou saying the arsenal team is rubbish and thus ozil struggles?
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Yes!
Put any genius in front of Xhaka and Coquelin with Oxlade Chamberlain and Walcott as your passing options and he is going to look suspect.
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well oxlade has 6 assists and 6 goals so far - decent.
sanchez managed to slot walcott in following a class run and hes on his best scoring season .
i just dont buy it, he doesnt take anything by the scruff of the neck and walks about playing 2 nice passes in big games. just not enough
GG, totally agree, but you and I have the benefit of age. Since I stopped playing at 25 through injury (pub level only) I have learned far more abou the game than when I played.
I now understand how tactics, individual players performances, formations, etc can influence the rest of the team far better than i did when I was younger. The youngsters havent had as much time to learn how some of the interactions between players and what players do can indirectly influence in a game. Thats why there is so much hate for the likes of Ozil, Ramsey, etc. AS I've already said today, Ozil is a link up player. He is (to use the old saying) a cog in the machine. He's not the motor.
The flip side of that is that they sometimes take players like Xhaka and build him up to be more than he is on current evidence. Just because he can tackle when he gets there in tyime and has a fairly decent pass on him does not mean he influences games. Its not his fault (although I think he could work harder) that he's not good enough and I don't blame him for it. I dont even blame Wenger tbh as some players just dont work out as you expect.
The last two players I was so sure of as not being good enough when others said they were are Denilson and Giroud. I think I've got a good record on judging players.
Yes!
Put any genius in front of Xhaka and Coquelin with Oxlade Chamberlain and Walcott as your passing options and he is going to look suspect.
Spot on Fred N
£42.5M and we should accept that he can't put in a tackle?
First it was the Giroud excuse and now it's the players behind Ozil. The fact that you are highlight a couple of nice passes just sums it up.
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I think the Ozil fan base have made every excuse in the sun now it's become hilarious and a bit delusional
comment by Mesut Ozil: World Class Con Artist (U3245)
posted 1 minute ago
stop making excuses for the guy.
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Do you also like watching Strictly?
Cech just broke a record of not keeping a clean sheet - is that because he is crap or because Gabriel is a donkey?
And the nerve to ask for £200k plus is a joke
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its the people behind him not winning the ball and giving it him
nooo its the strikers and wingers not moving for him
noooo he doesnt have to win tackle, hes allowed to walk about and let the team do the dirty work
you should listen to yourselves
I am a gooner now. Its exactly as you say hes not the motor and never will be.People need to accept this.Get a good motor ie Cazorla and Ozil will produce.
Castor, I accept you dont like Ozil and thats your opinion. I however do and thats mine.
comment by LeedsRich - Sell up now and Fook off home! (U18097)
posted 3 minutes ago
its the people behind him not winning the ball and giving it him
nooo its the strikers and wingers not moving for him
noooo he doesnt have to win tackle, hes allowed to walk about and let the team do the dirty work
you should listen to yourselves
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We haven't got any money that's why we are not in the PL.
You should listen to yourself
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posted on 19/12/16
come on be real, sanchez has achieved more at arsenal than ozil. every big game ozil goes missing i didn'y even notice ozil against utd and city. big time bottler
posted on 19/12/16
wow. half the player david silva is.
ozil walking round and is forgiven for going missing in big matches when you really need him. But as long as he plays 2 decent passes hay
posted on 19/12/16
comment by LeedsRich - Sell up now and Fook off home! (U18097)
posted 45 seconds ago
wow. half the player david silva is.
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Put Silva in the Leeds team and he would look hopeless
posted on 19/12/16
comment by FredN (U21316)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by LeedsRich - Sell up now and Fook off home! (U18097)
posted 45 seconds ago
wow. half the player david silva is.
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Put Silva in the Leeds team and he would look hopeless
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leeds is hopeless anywhere wouldn't make much difference if they had ronaldo and messi in same team
posted on 19/12/16
comment by FredN (U21316)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by LeedsRich - Sell up now and Fook off home! (U18097)
posted 45 seconds ago
wow. half the player david silva is.
--------------------
Put Silva in the Leeds team and he would look hopeless
----------------------------------------------------------------------
doubt that, pablo hernandez is brilliant in it, and silva far far far superior to pablo.
although i dont get the point you are trying to make.
you saying the arsenal team is rubbish and thus ozil struggles?
posted on 19/12/16
comment by Viva_Ronaldo (U19085)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by FredN (U21316)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by LeedsRich - Sell up now and Fook off home! (U18097)
posted 45 seconds ago
wow. half the player david silva is.
--------------------
Put Silva in the Leeds team and he would look hopeless
----------------------------------------------------------------------
leeds is hopeless anywhere wouldn't make much difference if they had ronaldo and messi in same team
----------------------------------------------------------------------
lol you are just a cuuuuuunt - so i dont care what you have to say, had better debates with my dog than you.
posted on 19/12/16
ou saying the arsenal team is rubbish and thus ozil struggles?
--------------------------------
Yes!
Put any genius in front of Xhaka and Coquelin with Oxlade Chamberlain and Walcott as your passing options and he is going to look suspect.
posted on 19/12/16
Pail is great against the west hams, Sunderlands, Hull & the rest of the dross but you put him up against decent players who want it more and he's a passenger.
No steel or grit, he was anonymous yesterday and let Williams run off him midweek for the goal. He's a luxury that you can't afford when the chips are down.
posted on 19/12/16
comment by LeedsRich - Sell up now and Fook off home! (U18097)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Viva_Ronaldo (U19085)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by FredN (U21316)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by LeedsRich - Sell up now and Fook off home! (U18097)
posted 45 seconds ago
wow. half the player david silva is.
--------------------
Put Silva in the Leeds team and he would look hopeless
----------------------------------------------------------------------
leeds is hopeless anywhere wouldn't make much difference if they had ronaldo and messi in same team
----------------------------------------------------------------------
lol you are just a cuuuuuunt - so i dont care what you have to say, had better debates with my dog than you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
you talk to your dog now i understand why 99% of leeds fan are fluffing cuckoo
posted on 19/12/16
Ozil played below average yesterday because Xhaka and Coq were very poor and the back four dropped to deep.
posted on 19/12/16
Ozil
posted on 19/12/16
The question I would ask was why ozil was supposed to be marking Williams in the first place.
posted on 19/12/16
comment by FredN (U21316)
posted 32 seconds ago
ou saying the arsenal team is rubbish and thus ozil struggles?
--------------------------------
Yes!
Put any genius in front of Xhaka and Coquelin with Oxlade Chamberlain and Walcott as your passing options and he is going to look suspect.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
well oxlade has 6 assists and 6 goals so far - decent.
sanchez managed to slot walcott in following a class run and hes on his best scoring season .
i just dont buy it, he doesnt take anything by the scruff of the neck and walks about playing 2 nice passes in big games. just not enough
posted on 19/12/16
GG, totally agree, but you and I have the benefit of age. Since I stopped playing at 25 through injury (pub level only) I have learned far more abou the game than when I played.
I now understand how tactics, individual players performances, formations, etc can influence the rest of the team far better than i did when I was younger. The youngsters havent had as much time to learn how some of the interactions between players and what players do can indirectly influence in a game. Thats why there is so much hate for the likes of Ozil, Ramsey, etc. AS I've already said today, Ozil is a link up player. He is (to use the old saying) a cog in the machine. He's not the motor.
The flip side of that is that they sometimes take players like Xhaka and build him up to be more than he is on current evidence. Just because he can tackle when he gets there in tyime and has a fairly decent pass on him does not mean he influences games. Its not his fault (although I think he could work harder) that he's not good enough and I don't blame him for it. I dont even blame Wenger tbh as some players just dont work out as you expect.
The last two players I was so sure of as not being good enough when others said they were are Denilson and Giroud. I think I've got a good record on judging players.
posted on 19/12/16
Yes!
Put any genius in front of Xhaka and Coquelin with Oxlade Chamberlain and Walcott as your passing options and he is going to look suspect.
Spot on Fred N
posted on 19/12/16
£42.5M and we should accept that he can't put in a tackle?
First it was the Giroud excuse and now it's the players behind Ozil. The fact that you are highlight a couple of nice passes just sums it up.
posted on 19/12/16
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posted on 19/12/16
I think the Ozil fan base have made every excuse in the sun now it's become hilarious and a bit delusional
posted on 19/12/16
comment by Mesut Ozil: World Class Con Artist (U3245)
posted 1 minute ago
stop making excuses for the guy.
---------------------------
Do you also like watching Strictly?
Cech just broke a record of not keeping a clean sheet - is that because he is crap or because Gabriel is a donkey?
posted on 19/12/16
And the nerve to ask for £200k plus is a joke
posted on 19/12/16
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 19/12/16
its the people behind him not winning the ball and giving it him
nooo its the strikers and wingers not moving for him
noooo he doesnt have to win tackle, hes allowed to walk about and let the team do the dirty work
you should listen to yourselves
posted on 19/12/16
I am a gooner now. Its exactly as you say hes not the motor and never will be.People need to accept this.Get a good motor ie Cazorla and Ozil will produce.
posted on 19/12/16
Castor, I accept you dont like Ozil and thats your opinion. I however do and thats mine.
posted on 19/12/16
comment by LeedsRich - Sell up now and Fook off home! (U18097)
posted 3 minutes ago
its the people behind him not winning the ball and giving it him
nooo its the strikers and wingers not moving for him
noooo he doesnt have to win tackle, hes allowed to walk about and let the team do the dirty work
you should listen to yourselves
======================
We haven't got any money that's why we are not in the PL.
You should listen to yourself
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