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The last time Mayweather came back from 2 years out the ring too he totally schooled Marquez and made him look like a school boy

We can talk about what Mayweather was ten or even five years ago until we're blue in the face but this is a 40 year old Floyd Mayweather who hasn't fought in two years. An inescapable fact.

In that same time period McGregor has been extremely active, albeit in a different fighting competition, and at 29 years old is the much younger, hungrier man.

People can talk about Conor getting schooled by Floyd but one important thing to consider is that Conor is not going to be afraid of anything that Floyd can throw at him offensively. He's certainly not going to be afraid of Mayweather's knockout power (or lack thereof).

This is a guy who's been in the ring with and beaten guys like Nate Diaz who would kill Mayweather in a standard fight.

but surely the 'Standard' fight is irrelevant here.
you can't be using the 'Lets fight in the Octagan then' excuse.
its not like a real hatred and real beef between the two. One man called out the other, and as popular as Connor is, Floyd is the main guy, and he's retired.
Why doesn't Connor call out Canelo?
If it was UFC, of course Connor wins that fight, thats why he will lose the boxing match.
Sure Floyd has been out, is 40 in age, his physical being is that of a 30 yr old. A man that has trained as a boxer since he was a baby... so Floyd still had at least a decade under his belt before Connor first picked up any gloves!
When connor loses, the first thing he will say, is Floyd was too fast.
As much as i like him, I cannot give Connor a chance over people like Canelo, De La Hoya, Sugar Mosley, Cotto, Maidana etc....
Amir Khan would knock out Connor.

Why doesn't Connor call out Canelo?
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He has been talking about Canelo a bit. If rumours are to be believed Golden Boy were in talks about a fight between Conor and Canelo before this one got made. If Conor does beat Floyd I could definitely see a Conor vs Canelo fight happening.

Let's see what happens in the GGG fight first though. Maybe a Conor vs GGG fight. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Conor fights one of those guys at some point even if he loses to Floyd.

but surely the 'Standard' fight is irrelevant here.
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No, not really irrelevant, I'm making a point here and the point is that Conor has fought and beat much bigger men in monsters like Nate Diaz. Floyd would never consider getting into the ring with someone that big. Or at least if he would consider it he's never done it. He never fought Margarito for example. Unlike Pacquiao.

Mcgregor isn't going to be afraid of anything that Floyd can throw at him with his brittle ageing hands and lack of knockout power. That's going to be a big factor in this fight I suspect.

Very good interview here with Keith Thurman about the fight. A good, impartial interview with one of the very top boxers out there right now, telling it like it is:

https://youtu.be/vS0Irmx4Dgg

This is a guy who's been in the ring with and beaten guys like Nate Diaz who would kill Mayweather in a standard fight
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a standard fight? what does that mean a fist fight in the street? nates boxing skills are sub par at best compared to a any half decent boxer and yet he smacked conner enough in that 1st fight for conner to try actually trying to wrsetle him to the ground?

I dnt care how much power or lack of you think Floyd has but if nate diaz can do that mayweather will be literally tagging him every time he throws a punch

Margarito....??!
Wasn't he the guy that got done for having concrete in his gloves?!
Can't blame Floyd for skipping him..

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Someone made a good point the other day that Mcgregor has a models body, but not really a fighters body, and Floyds fast hands and combo throwing and amount of punches he throws could cause him real problems to the body

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comment by The Guvnor IV -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
My opinion on the fight has not changed from the beginning. I think Conor has tools to pose some interesting questions to Floyd but ultimately, this is Floyd's arena and he will come out victorious. How he does it, that is entirely up to him.
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Vik in fairness at the beginning of this thread you were much more positive about McGregor's chances even if you've always backed Mayweather to win.

You were saying stuff like Floyd's punches won't even faze Conor and no way can Floyd hurt or knock out Conor, that Mayweather at the age of 40 is over the hill, that father time could so easily catch up with Floyd in this fight, no chance Floyd finishes him in a few rounds and that all it takes is one punch for Conor to win as he's the bigger man.

All there in the first few pages of this thread mate

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Superb, i think you've said Floyd will win, but you give connor a chance. if so, what percentage do you have him at right now?

I have him at 0.0001% and thats not being disrespectful. thats just a conclusion to weighing up the stats.

sure there's an asterix there for variables, as its the unknown in regards to Connor... self belief is a wonderful thing, but its not enough in this situation, in my imo.

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 hours, 50 minutes ago
Superb, i think you've said Floyd will win, but you give connor a chance. if so, what percentage do you have him at right now?

I have him at 0.0001% and thats not being disrespectful. thats just a conclusion to weighing up the stats.

sure there's an asterix there for variables, as its the unknown in regards to Connor... self belief is a wonderful thing, but its not enough in this situation, in my imo.
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So after weighing up the stats you literally have Conor as a 1 in a million shot. Two combat sportsmen of roughly equal physical size and you think the fight would have to be played out a million times before Conor could get 1 win.

If you truly believe that then you're probably busy remortgaging and getting all the money you have in the world to bet on Floyd. You'd be crazy not to at those percentages.

Look, I (like any right minded person) thinks Floyd will win and win easily. But Conor does have a shot here, if he connects then who knows. This is boxing and it can change in 1 punch. Personally I'd give Conor a one fight in every 30 chance which equates to 3.3%. Certainly under 5% anyway.

comment by The Guvnor IV -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 12 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 23 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor IV -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
My opinion on the fight has not changed from the beginning. I think Conor has tools to pose some interesting questions to Floyd but ultimately, this is Floyd's arena and he will come out victorious. How he does it, that is entirely up to him.
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Vik in fairness at the beginning of this thread you were much more positive about McGregor's chances even if you've always backed Mayweather to win.

You were saying stuff like Floyd's punches won't even faze Conor and no way can Floyd hurt or knock out Conor, that Mayweather at the age of 40 is over the hill, that father time could so easily catch up with Floyd in this fight, no chance Floyd finishes him in a few rounds and that all it takes is one punch for Conor to win as he's the bigger man.

All there in the first few pages of this thread mate

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And I still believe many of those things but I have had time to contemplate the match up and both fighters. Having also heard from several boxers and trainers, my opinion has shifted slightly as it should. There are people that know a lot more about boxing than me and I tend to take what they say seriously.
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No offence but I'm more inclined to believe that what you were saying before is your real opinion. I wouldn't be swayed by what many in the boxing community says.

I'd be more inclined to listen to what someone like Keith Thurman is saying about this fight, someone who tells it like it is and without fear or an agenda. https://youtu.be/vS0Irmx4Dgg

All these opinions from so-called experts like Max Kellerman saying that Conor has zero chance and that he won't even touch Mayweather once in the fight is pure BS and it doesn't come from a place of impartiality or reason.

Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows that one punch changes everything, especially when you have a guy that hits as hard as Conor, is as fast as Conor and as clever as he is. Also Conor's team will have a strategy and it won't be the try and match Floyd in a boxing contest that the likes of Canelo have naively tried and failed with.

And whatever anyone says about how skilled and cunning Mayweather is in the ring there's no getting away from the fact that this is a 40 year old Mayweather who hasn't fought in two years and until we see this version of Floyd we just don't know how much of his powers have been lost as they inevitably will with age.

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posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 hours, 50 minutes ago
Superb, i think you've said Floyd will win, but you give connor a chance. if so, what percentage do you have him at right now?

I have him at 0.0001% and thats not being disrespectful. thats just a conclusion to weighing up the stats.

sure there's an asterix there for variables, as its the unknown in regards to Connor... self belief is a wonderful thing, but its not enough in this situation, in my imo.
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So after weighing up the stats you literally have Conor as a 1 in a million shot. Two combat sportsmen of roughly equal physical size and you think the fight would have to be played out a million times before Conor could get 1 win.

If you truly believe that then you're probably busy remortgaging and getting all the money you have in the world to bet on Floyd. You'd be crazy not to at those percentages.

Look, I (like any right minded person) thinks Floyd will win and win easily. But Conor does have a shot here, if he connects then who knows. This is boxing and it can change in 1 punch. Personally I'd give Conor a one fight in every 30 chance which equates to 3.3%. Certainly under 5% anyway.

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Yup some good points here

Stringer I expect you to stick at least a grand of your money on this fight if you think that Mayweather is 99.9999% sure of winning.

I'd have to think about this in terms of percentage but I'd be inclined to give Conor more than 5% chance of winning, not necessarily much more though. Mayweather is undoubtedly favourite though for various reasons, especially with the fight being in Vegas and with everything just how like Floyd likes it with his USADA testing and everything else.

how the hell does conor compete in ufc and not have a fighters body..