so its started, just send him over to us please, the guy is by far your best player, wenger was probably given a sheet stating sanchez doesn't run that much and decided on benching him
Stats are only part of the story. He is our most influential player and contributes to more of our goals than any other player. He has scored more in the league this season already than Giroud has EVER managed in a whole season for us.
At the start of the season he was playing up front and was running more. Since he has been moved back to the wing he is not running as much. Is that just because he runs all over the place when central and only cuts in from one side when wide?
To do a proper comparison I would like to see the comparison to when he was playing wide last season, then we can get a proper perspective.
And you also need to add that he is probably fed up with the failure of the team as a whole and carrying them and I suspect already decided to leave. It will be harder for him to lift himself to give that bit extra.
Funny how Alexis is said to be a hard worker but Ozil isn't. You can't compare him to Messi, Messi doesn't run he has the lowest distance covered each game. But he doesn't need to because he can pick his moments. Alexis isn't of that quality, and when we need a goal he is nowhere to be seen in the opposition box.
Alexis is a good player however, the main stats are his goals and assists which no one in the team comes close to.
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 4 minutes ago
so its started, just send him over to us please, the guy is by far your best player, wenger was probably given a sheet stating sanchez doesn't run that much and decided on benching him
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<yawn>
Just trying to add a bit more nuance to the debate "Alexis good, Arsene bad."
People like stats, but tend to obsess over the headlines (goals and assists) without.applying their brain to what they are seeing, or considering counterfactuals. What I'm not saying is that Alexis is rubbish and should go to United. But I guess you already knew that.
I think the difference in statistics can easily be explained by the change of position and the change of style that goes with it. You cannot compare the statistics of a focal point striker like Giroud to one that is facing the opposition goal like Alexis. What is more you have accept that Alexis was actually a no.10 in his career at Udinese and not a no.9. This was a transition for him as well because once again Wenger failed to buy a top class striker last summer despite a lot of huffing and puffing that he has shown since we actually signed Giroud to replace Robin Van Persie.
Stastical evidence he's a fraud,
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
so its started, just send him over to us please, the guy is by far your best player, wenger was probably given a sheet stating sanchez doesn't run that much and decided on benching him
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He's way to good for you losers mate
Stats are only part of the story. He is our most influential player and contributes to more of our goals than any other player. He has scored more in the league this season already than Giroud has EVER managed in a whole season for us.
Yup I know that this stat/article doesnt fit your agenda and you looking for excuses instead.
My heart would bleed if Alexis leaves the club but the article shows that some really should open their eyes of what happened on the pitch.
He's way to good for you losers mate
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we win things losers i.e arsenal don't, like I said send him over
From watching the team since his arrival I would say yes he gets alot of goals and assists but I'm not necessarily sure the the number of goals and assist he alone manages actually outweighs the number of goals and assists that would be spread around the team if he wasn't in it.
I think his individual performance is good but I also think it comes at the expense of others in the team who could get the same number of goals and assists, maybe more. If the team wasn't having to make adjustments to deal with his being in the team. A great player isn't necessarily great for every team he plays in. Styles count and the way Sanchez plays has never suited Arsenal's game. Hence our game falling apart as soon as he arrived.
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
He's way to good for you losers mate
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we win things losers i.e arsenal don't, like I said send him over
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Like?
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
I think the difference in statistics can easily be explained by the change of position and the change of style that goes with it. You cannot compare the statistics of a focal point striker like Giroud to one that is facing the opposition goal like Alexis. What is more you have accept that Alexis was actually a no.10 in his career at Udinese and not a no.9. This was a transition for him as well because once again Wenger failed to buy a top class striker last summer despite a lot of huffing and puffing that he has shown since we actually signed Giroud to replace Robin Van Persie.
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Except the difference in his stats has occurred over the course of this season, when he's played in the same position in pretty much every match, which negates your point however much you want to bash Giroud.
comment by Sömeday_693 - Elneny will be our salvation (U8892)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
I think the difference in statistics can easily be explained by the change of position and the change of style that goes with it. You cannot compare the statistics of a focal point striker like Giroud to one that is facing the opposition goal like Alexis. What is more you have accept that Alexis was actually a no.10 in his career at Udinese and not a no.9. This was a transition for him as well because once again Wenger failed to buy a top class striker last summer despite a lot of huffing and puffing that he has shown since we actually signed Giroud to replace Robin Van Persie.
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Except the difference in his stats has occurred over the course of this season, when he's played in the same position in pretty much every match, which negates your point however much you want to bash Giroud.
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In the view of Ufo99 everything that is wrong depends on Giroud allthough he started only 10 games this season. So, dont be suprise much about his contributions.
comment by ♤WengersNearlyMen♤ (U5041)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
He's way to good for you losers mate
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we win things losers i.e arsenal don't, like I said send him over
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Like?
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Exactly it's not worth talking about
Sanchez has the air of a player who has realized that the rest of the team dont care. How many times do we see him pressing and no one else helping out. After some time, he very has realized that it is pointless. For a press to work, it has to be coordinated and involve the team as a whole. So he may have stopped.
The stats are misleading. Yes Sanchez loses the ball A LOT and it annoys me greatly sometimes because if his tactical vision was better, he would have a few more assists and would be an even better player. But sometimes I wonder how much he trusts his team mates and so decides to do it all by himself.
Either way, I would not be shocked or upset at him if he left. You can only play with dross for so long before you get tired of it all and want to play with better players where your efforts and talent will win you trophies.
comment by Sömeday_693 - Elneny will be our salvation (U8892)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
I think the difference in statistics can easily be explained by the change of position and the change of style that goes with it. You cannot compare the statistics of a focal point striker like Giroud to one that is facing the opposition goal like Alexis. What is more you have accept that Alexis was actually a no.10 in his career at Udinese and not a no.9. This was a transition for him as well because once again Wenger failed to buy a top class striker last summer despite a lot of huffing and puffing that he has shown since we actually signed Giroud to replace Robin Van Persie.
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Except the difference in his stats has occurred over the course of this season, when he's played in the same position in pretty much every match, which negates your point however much you want to bash Giroud.
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They are different type of strikers. Do you accept that? Do you think running about in slow motion is important?
The only statistic that matters is goal scored and assists. Nothing else.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Sömeday_693 - Elneny will be our salvation (U8892)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
I think the difference in statistics can easily be explained by the change of position and the change of style that goes with it. You cannot compare the statistics of a focal point striker like Giroud to one that is facing the opposition goal like Alexis. What is more you have accept that Alexis was actually a no.10 in his career at Udinese and not a no.9. This was a transition for him as well because once again Wenger failed to buy a top class striker last summer despite a lot of huffing and puffing that he has shown since we actually signed Giroud to replace Robin Van Persie.
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Except the difference in his stats has occurred over the course of this season, when he's played in the same position in pretty much every match, which negates your point however much you want to bash Giroud.
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In the view of Ufo99 everything that is wrong depends on Giroud allthough he started only 10 games this season. So, dont be suprise much about his contributions.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
still making pronouncements on other posters. Still following Arsenal by watching on illegal streams?
10 games that were crucial in losing points and changing the outlook of the season as well as driving out the best player in the squad.
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posted on 8/3/17
so its started, just send him over to us please, the guy is by far your best player, wenger was probably given a sheet stating sanchez doesn't run that much and decided on benching him
posted on 8/3/17
Stats are only part of the story. He is our most influential player and contributes to more of our goals than any other player. He has scored more in the league this season already than Giroud has EVER managed in a whole season for us.
At the start of the season he was playing up front and was running more. Since he has been moved back to the wing he is not running as much. Is that just because he runs all over the place when central and only cuts in from one side when wide?
To do a proper comparison I would like to see the comparison to when he was playing wide last season, then we can get a proper perspective.
And you also need to add that he is probably fed up with the failure of the team as a whole and carrying them and I suspect already decided to leave. It will be harder for him to lift himself to give that bit extra.
posted on 8/3/17
Funny how Alexis is said to be a hard worker but Ozil isn't. You can't compare him to Messi, Messi doesn't run he has the lowest distance covered each game. But he doesn't need to because he can pick his moments. Alexis isn't of that quality, and when we need a goal he is nowhere to be seen in the opposition box.
Alexis is a good player however, the main stats are his goals and assists which no one in the team comes close to.
posted on 8/3/17
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 4 minutes ago
so its started, just send him over to us please, the guy is by far your best player, wenger was probably given a sheet stating sanchez doesn't run that much and decided on benching him
----------------------------------------------------------------------
<yawn>
Just trying to add a bit more nuance to the debate "Alexis good, Arsene bad."
People like stats, but tend to obsess over the headlines (goals and assists) without.applying their brain to what they are seeing, or considering counterfactuals. What I'm not saying is that Alexis is rubbish and should go to United. But I guess you already knew that.
posted on 8/3/17
I think the difference in statistics can easily be explained by the change of position and the change of style that goes with it. You cannot compare the statistics of a focal point striker like Giroud to one that is facing the opposition goal like Alexis. What is more you have accept that Alexis was actually a no.10 in his career at Udinese and not a no.9. This was a transition for him as well because once again Wenger failed to buy a top class striker last summer despite a lot of huffing and puffing that he has shown since we actually signed Giroud to replace Robin Van Persie.
posted on 8/3/17
Stastical evidence he's a fraud,
posted on 8/3/17
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
so its started, just send him over to us please, the guy is by far your best player, wenger was probably given a sheet stating sanchez doesn't run that much and decided on benching him
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He's way to good for you losers mate
posted on 8/3/17
Stats are only part of the story. He is our most influential player and contributes to more of our goals than any other player. He has scored more in the league this season already than Giroud has EVER managed in a whole season for us.
Yup I know that this stat/article doesnt fit your agenda and you looking for excuses instead.
My heart would bleed if Alexis leaves the club but the article shows that some really should open their eyes of what happened on the pitch.
posted on 8/3/17
He's way to good for you losers mate
---------
we win things losers i.e arsenal don't, like I said send him over
posted on 8/3/17
From watching the team since his arrival I would say yes he gets alot of goals and assists but I'm not necessarily sure the the number of goals and assist he alone manages actually outweighs the number of goals and assists that would be spread around the team if he wasn't in it.
I think his individual performance is good but I also think it comes at the expense of others in the team who could get the same number of goals and assists, maybe more. If the team wasn't having to make adjustments to deal with his being in the team. A great player isn't necessarily great for every team he plays in. Styles count and the way Sanchez plays has never suited Arsenal's game. Hence our game falling apart as soon as he arrived.
posted on 8/3/17
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
He's way to good for you losers mate
---------
we win things losers i.e arsenal don't, like I said send him over
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Like?
posted on 8/3/17
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
I think the difference in statistics can easily be explained by the change of position and the change of style that goes with it. You cannot compare the statistics of a focal point striker like Giroud to one that is facing the opposition goal like Alexis. What is more you have accept that Alexis was actually a no.10 in his career at Udinese and not a no.9. This was a transition for him as well because once again Wenger failed to buy a top class striker last summer despite a lot of huffing and puffing that he has shown since we actually signed Giroud to replace Robin Van Persie.
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Except the difference in his stats has occurred over the course of this season, when he's played in the same position in pretty much every match, which negates your point however much you want to bash Giroud.
posted on 8/3/17
comment by Sömeday_693 - Elneny will be our salvation (U8892)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
I think the difference in statistics can easily be explained by the change of position and the change of style that goes with it. You cannot compare the statistics of a focal point striker like Giroud to one that is facing the opposition goal like Alexis. What is more you have accept that Alexis was actually a no.10 in his career at Udinese and not a no.9. This was a transition for him as well because once again Wenger failed to buy a top class striker last summer despite a lot of huffing and puffing that he has shown since we actually signed Giroud to replace Robin Van Persie.
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Except the difference in his stats has occurred over the course of this season, when he's played in the same position in pretty much every match, which negates your point however much you want to bash Giroud.
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In the view of Ufo99 everything that is wrong depends on Giroud allthough he started only 10 games this season. So, dont be suprise much about his contributions.
posted on 8/3/17
comment by ♤WengersNearlyMen♤ (U5041)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
He's way to good for you losers mate
---------
we win things losers i.e arsenal don't, like I said send him over
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Like?
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Exactly it's not worth talking about
posted on 8/3/17
Sanchez has the air of a player who has realized that the rest of the team dont care. How many times do we see him pressing and no one else helping out. After some time, he very has realized that it is pointless. For a press to work, it has to be coordinated and involve the team as a whole. So he may have stopped.
The stats are misleading. Yes Sanchez loses the ball A LOT and it annoys me greatly sometimes because if his tactical vision was better, he would have a few more assists and would be an even better player. But sometimes I wonder how much he trusts his team mates and so decides to do it all by himself.
Either way, I would not be shocked or upset at him if he left. You can only play with dross for so long before you get tired of it all and want to play with better players where your efforts and talent will win you trophies.
posted on 8/3/17
comment by Sömeday_693 - Elneny will be our salvation (U8892)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
I think the difference in statistics can easily be explained by the change of position and the change of style that goes with it. You cannot compare the statistics of a focal point striker like Giroud to one that is facing the opposition goal like Alexis. What is more you have accept that Alexis was actually a no.10 in his career at Udinese and not a no.9. This was a transition for him as well because once again Wenger failed to buy a top class striker last summer despite a lot of huffing and puffing that he has shown since we actually signed Giroud to replace Robin Van Persie.
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Except the difference in his stats has occurred over the course of this season, when he's played in the same position in pretty much every match, which negates your point however much you want to bash Giroud.
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They are different type of strikers. Do you accept that? Do you think running about in slow motion is important?
The only statistic that matters is goal scored and assists. Nothing else.
posted on 8/3/17
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Sömeday_693 - Elneny will be our salvation (U8892)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
I think the difference in statistics can easily be explained by the change of position and the change of style that goes with it. You cannot compare the statistics of a focal point striker like Giroud to one that is facing the opposition goal like Alexis. What is more you have accept that Alexis was actually a no.10 in his career at Udinese and not a no.9. This was a transition for him as well because once again Wenger failed to buy a top class striker last summer despite a lot of huffing and puffing that he has shown since we actually signed Giroud to replace Robin Van Persie.
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Except the difference in his stats has occurred over the course of this season, when he's played in the same position in pretty much every match, which negates your point however much you want to bash Giroud.
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In the view of Ufo99 everything that is wrong depends on Giroud allthough he started only 10 games this season. So, dont be suprise much about his contributions.
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still making pronouncements on other posters. Still following Arsenal by watching on illegal streams?
10 games that were crucial in losing points and changing the outlook of the season as well as driving out the best player in the squad.
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