comment by Admįn3 (U8613)
posted 5 minutes ago
That has its apostles, believers and preachers applying the good book of Dawkins
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I don't think atheists worship Dawkins as their prophet like religious people do.
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"Not everyone will be but it's not fair to take the chance"
Read through the whole thread this morning. Just wanted to say a couple of things.
Firstly, RIP to all of the innocents who tragically lost their lives yesterday. My thoughts go to their nearest and dearest at this sad time.
Secondly, my thoughts are also with Dark Phoenix, KFC, their wider family circles, and others in a similar position, whose lives that can also possibly be impacted by yesterdays atrocity, through no fault of their own, all because of the faith they were raised in.
Peace to one and all.
"Ignorant twwwwwwaaaat"
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Hurl abuse who questions you...
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 21 seconds ago
so has there been an updated quran I've missed?
are you telling me these verses from the muslim holy book no longer mean anything to muslims?
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It's amazing how facking thick you are.
You can still take meaning from those verses you ripped out of context. It's about self defence.
If you did your research you'd know that the Quran in those verses you copy pasted are talking about people who were attacking Muslims 1400 years ago.
It then goes on to tell Muslims back then that you can attack the disbelievers who attack you. Giving permission for self defence because a previous revelation outlawed killing totally.
Muslims today use those verses as an example of how to conduct themselves today.
i.e. Only attack those who attack you, so yes these verses are still beloved in and used IN CONTEXT!!!!!!!!
Ignorant twwwwwwaaaat
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The problem with this, and all religious texts from centuries ago, is that are taken out of the context they were written in and manipulated for modern life.
This allows people to manipulate them for pretty much any means they like.
It is a good example why religion is an outdated concept that should have no relevance to our far advanced societies.
Rob care to show me the report you were talking about, I'd like to know what they define as extremist.
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 minutes ago
It shouldn't be taught for a single minute. Our young people should focus on facts not myths. They should focus on numeracy, literacy, Science, health etc.
If families want their children to be religious, it should be done on their own time.
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Schools also need to teach children about the human constructs in the world they live in: political structures, economics, public and societal structures and infrastructure, political history, the law and religion.
I'd want any child of mine coming out of school having been taught by experts at least the basics about all of the above.
However, I agree with your sentiments on faith schools. State-funded schools should not be directing children towards religion, and religious instruction and practise should not be taught.
Freedom of religious belief is a human right, and what parents want to do with their children on their own time is absolutely their business. But for me, state-funded schools should all be teaching the National Curriculum, and a National Curriculum focussed on (as well as developing cognitive and practical skills) delivering children facts about the world.
Fergies A Jolly Good Fellow
Amen to that.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just don't make all our kids sit through it till they are 16.
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You can pull your kids out of it. Just tell the school.
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You sure about that?
Kids in primary schools sing hymns and say prayers every single single day in assembly and class. And do re lessons as well.
The churches own the land the schools sit on. It why they are are called st Michael's, st lukes, st Johns etc.
Me and my wife had a non religious wedding. And our son won't have religion force fed to him by anyone. If he chooses that path himself then it's something he decided.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 second agora
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 21 seconds ago
so has there been an updated quran I've missed?
are you telling me these verses from the muslim holy book no longer mean anything to muslims?
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It's amazing how facking thick you are.
You can still take meaning from those verses you ripped out of context. It's about self defence.
If you did your research you'd know that the Quran in those verses you copy pasted are talking about people who were attacking Muslims 1400 years ago.
It then goes on to tell Muslims back then that you can attack the disbelievers who attack you. Giving permission for self defence because a previous revelation outlawed killing totally.
Muslims today use those verses as an example of how to conduct themselves today.
i.e. Only attack those who attack you, so yes these verses are still beloved in and used IN CONTEXT!!!!!!!!
Ignorant twwwwwwaaaat
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The problem with this, and all religious texts from centuries ago, is that are taken out of the context they were written in and manipulated for modern life.
This allows people to manipulate them for pretty much any means they like.
It is a good example why religion is an outdated concept that should have no relevance to our far advanced societies.
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Do you know how many people have used this OUT DATED argument on here.
Everything in the Quran is contextualised is detail so as to avoid confusion. Deception only happens when somebody hides the context which is a way you can manipulate ANYTHING in the world.
I could copy and paste segments out of the Geneva convention and make it look like a Natzi military play book.
comment by Fergies A Jolly Good Fellow (U17074)
posted 1 minute ago
Read through the whole thread this morning. Just wanted to say a couple of things.
Firstly, RIP to all of the innocents who tragically lost their lives yesterday. My thoughts go to their nearest and dearest at this sad time.
Secondly, my thoughts are also with Dark Phoenix, KFC, their wider family circles, and others in a similar position, whose lives that can also possibly be impacted by yesterdays atrocity, through no fault of their own, all because of the faith they were raised in.
Peace to one and all.
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What, no 'thirdly' for your thoughts being with those of us who, through no fault of our own other than choosing to reside in a liberal democracy, are recipients of the hatred of these radicals, and potential targets for future attacks...?
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 second agora
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 21 seconds ago
so has there been an updated quran I've missed?
are you telling me these verses from the muslim holy book no longer mean anything to muslims?
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It's amazing how facking thick you are.
You can still take meaning from those verses you ripped out of context. It's about self defence.
If you did your research you'd know that the Quran in those verses you copy pasted are talking about people who were attacking Muslims 1400 years ago.
It then goes on to tell Muslims back then that you can attack the disbelievers who attack you. Giving permission for self defence because a previous revelation outlawed killing totally.
Muslims today use those verses as an example of how to conduct themselves today.
i.e. Only attack those who attack you, so yes these verses are still beloved in and used IN CONTEXT!!!!!!!!
Ignorant twwwwwwaaaat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem with this, and all religious texts from centuries ago, is that are taken out of the context they were written in and manipulated for modern life.
This allows people to manipulate them for pretty much any means they like.
It is a good example why religion is an outdated concept that should have no relevance to our far advanced societies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you know how many people have used this OUT DATED argument on here.
Everything in the Quran is contextualised is detail so as to avoid confusion. Deception only happens when somebody hides the context which is a way you can manipulate ANYTHING in the world.
I could copy and paste segments out of the Geneva convention and make it look like a Natzi military play book.
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You probably could
Wonder if the Quran posting chap knows his bible as well. Few passages in that open to interpretation.
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comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 31 minutes ago
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
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What?!! This can't be a quote from their holy book!! It's not even a premonition, it's a facking instruction!
Wonder if the Quran posting chap knows his bible as well.
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Pete is not religious..
Everything in the Quran is contextualised is detail so as to avoid confusion. Deception only happens when somebody hides the context which is a way you can manipulate ANYTHING in the world.
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The Geneva convention is updated though, to try and keep it relevant.
All religious texts are open to varied interpretation, that's why you get so many different sects.
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 12 seconds ago
Few passages in that open to interpretation.
_____________________________
all religion is open to interpretation. thanks for proving my point that the verses in the quran could be used today as a way of inflicting violence. its all laughable and backwards.
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It can only be used in that way if somebody as thick as you picks it, like if a thicko is given a lighter a lot of schit can happen.
It's sad but you read the Quran with the same mind set as an extremist setting aside context.
If only we treated other books in the same way.
When you make a cheese cake do you just read the title and bang a lump of cheddar on some digestive biscuits? I have to ask because you are that stupid...
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 9 minutes ago
Fergies A Jolly Good Fellow
Amen to that.
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Cheers Hector, I'll not get into that
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comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Fergies A Jolly Good Fellow (U17074)
posted 1 minute ago
Read through the whole thread this morning. Just wanted to say a couple of things.
Firstly, RIP to all of the innocents who tragically lost their lives yesterday. My thoughts go to their nearest and dearest at this sad time.
Secondly, my thoughts are also with Dark Phoenix, KFC, their wider family circles, and others in a similar position, whose lives that can also possibly be impacted by yesterdays atrocity, through no fault of their own, all because of the faith they were raised in.
Peace to one and all.
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What, no 'thirdly' for your thoughts being with those of us who, through no fault of our own other than choosing to reside in a liberal democracy, are recipients of the hatred of these radicals, and potential targets for future attacks...?
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Lambeau,
That goes without saying. The attacks are disgusting and should have no place in our, or any society.
Apologies for not making that clear
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Everything in the Quran is contextualised is detail so as to avoid confusion. Deception only happens when somebody hides the context which is a way you can manipulate ANYTHING in the world.
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The Geneva convention is updated though, to try and keep it relevant.
All religious texts are open to varied interpretation, that's why you get so many different sects.
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Depends what religion you are talking about.
Shias and Sunnis are divided because they both wanted different people to succeed the Prophet (pbuh) nothing to do with the Quran
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 12 seconds ago
Few passages in that open to interpretation.
_____________________________
all religion is open to interpretation. thanks for proving my point that the verses in the quran could be used today as a way of inflicting violence. its all laughable and backwards.
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It can only be used in that way if somebody as thick as you picks it, like if a thicko is given a lighter a lot of schit can happen.
It's sad but you read the Quran with the same mind set as an extremist setting aside context.
If only we treated other books in the same way.
When you make a cheese cake do you just read the title and bang a lump of cheddar on some digestive biscuits? I have to ask because you are that stupid...
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why the fk are homosexuals getting hanged in Iran then???
explain that please
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If these books weren't full of hateful phrases that are "open to misinterpretation" then uneducated and gullible types wouldn't be able to reference it when they are about to go on one of their killing sprees would they?
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 5 minutes ago
Few passages in that open to interpretation.
_____________________________
all religion is open to interpretation. thanks for proving my point that the verses in the quran could be used today as a way of inflicting violence. its all laughable and backwards.
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You don't have a point other than taking random quotes from one book to justify your own bloodlust for others whilst ignoring quotes from others.
At least be consistent and condemn all passages from the Bible, Torah as well as Quran.
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posted on 23/3/17
comment by Admįn3 (U8613)
posted 5 minutes ago
That has its apostles, believers and preachers applying the good book of Dawkins
--
I don't think atheists worship Dawkins as their prophet like religious people do.
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"Not everyone will be but it's not fair to take the chance"
posted on 23/3/17
Read through the whole thread this morning. Just wanted to say a couple of things.
Firstly, RIP to all of the innocents who tragically lost their lives yesterday. My thoughts go to their nearest and dearest at this sad time.
Secondly, my thoughts are also with Dark Phoenix, KFC, their wider family circles, and others in a similar position, whose lives that can also possibly be impacted by yesterdays atrocity, through no fault of their own, all because of the faith they were raised in.
Peace to one and all.
posted on 23/3/17
"Ignorant twwwwwwaaaat"
---
Hurl abuse who questions you...
posted on 23/3/17
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 21 seconds ago
so has there been an updated quran I've missed?
are you telling me these verses from the muslim holy book no longer mean anything to muslims?
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It's amazing how facking thick you are.
You can still take meaning from those verses you ripped out of context. It's about self defence.
If you did your research you'd know that the Quran in those verses you copy pasted are talking about people who were attacking Muslims 1400 years ago.
It then goes on to tell Muslims back then that you can attack the disbelievers who attack you. Giving permission for self defence because a previous revelation outlawed killing totally.
Muslims today use those verses as an example of how to conduct themselves today.
i.e. Only attack those who attack you, so yes these verses are still beloved in and used IN CONTEXT!!!!!!!!
Ignorant twwwwwwaaaat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem with this, and all religious texts from centuries ago, is that are taken out of the context they were written in and manipulated for modern life.
This allows people to manipulate them for pretty much any means they like.
It is a good example why religion is an outdated concept that should have no relevance to our far advanced societies.
posted on 23/3/17
Rob care to show me the report you were talking about, I'd like to know what they define as extremist.
posted on 23/3/17
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 minutes ago
It shouldn't be taught for a single minute. Our young people should focus on facts not myths. They should focus on numeracy, literacy, Science, health etc.
If families want their children to be religious, it should be done on their own time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Schools also need to teach children about the human constructs in the world they live in: political structures, economics, public and societal structures and infrastructure, political history, the law and religion.
I'd want any child of mine coming out of school having been taught by experts at least the basics about all of the above.
However, I agree with your sentiments on faith schools. State-funded schools should not be directing children towards religion, and religious instruction and practise should not be taught.
Freedom of religious belief is a human right, and what parents want to do with their children on their own time is absolutely their business. But for me, state-funded schools should all be teaching the National Curriculum, and a National Curriculum focussed on (as well as developing cognitive and practical skills) delivering children facts about the world.
posted on 23/3/17
Fergies A Jolly Good Fellow
Amen to that.
posted on 23/3/17
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just don't make all our kids sit through it till they are 16.
-
You can pull your kids out of it. Just tell the school.
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You sure about that?
Kids in primary schools sing hymns and say prayers every single single day in assembly and class. And do re lessons as well.
The churches own the land the schools sit on. It why they are are called st Michael's, st lukes, st Johns etc.
Me and my wife had a non religious wedding. And our son won't have religion force fed to him by anyone. If he chooses that path himself then it's something he decided.
posted on 23/3/17
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 second agora
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 21 seconds ago
so has there been an updated quran I've missed?
are you telling me these verses from the muslim holy book no longer mean anything to muslims?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's amazing how facking thick you are.
You can still take meaning from those verses you ripped out of context. It's about self defence.
If you did your research you'd know that the Quran in those verses you copy pasted are talking about people who were attacking Muslims 1400 years ago.
It then goes on to tell Muslims back then that you can attack the disbelievers who attack you. Giving permission for self defence because a previous revelation outlawed killing totally.
Muslims today use those verses as an example of how to conduct themselves today.
i.e. Only attack those who attack you, so yes these verses are still beloved in and used IN CONTEXT!!!!!!!!
Ignorant twwwwwwaaaat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem with this, and all religious texts from centuries ago, is that are taken out of the context they were written in and manipulated for modern life.
This allows people to manipulate them for pretty much any means they like.
It is a good example why religion is an outdated concept that should have no relevance to our far advanced societies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you know how many people have used this OUT DATED argument on here.
Everything in the Quran is contextualised is detail so as to avoid confusion. Deception only happens when somebody hides the context which is a way you can manipulate ANYTHING in the world.
I could copy and paste segments out of the Geneva convention and make it look like a Natzi military play book.
posted on 23/3/17
comment by Fergies A Jolly Good Fellow (U17074)
posted 1 minute ago
Read through the whole thread this morning. Just wanted to say a couple of things.
Firstly, RIP to all of the innocents who tragically lost their lives yesterday. My thoughts go to their nearest and dearest at this sad time.
Secondly, my thoughts are also with Dark Phoenix, KFC, their wider family circles, and others in a similar position, whose lives that can also possibly be impacted by yesterdays atrocity, through no fault of their own, all because of the faith they were raised in.
Peace to one and all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What, no 'thirdly' for your thoughts being with those of us who, through no fault of our own other than choosing to reside in a liberal democracy, are recipients of the hatred of these radicals, and potential targets for future attacks...?
posted on 23/3/17
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 second agora
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 21 seconds ago
so has there been an updated quran I've missed?
are you telling me these verses from the muslim holy book no longer mean anything to muslims?
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It's amazing how facking thick you are.
You can still take meaning from those verses you ripped out of context. It's about self defence.
If you did your research you'd know that the Quran in those verses you copy pasted are talking about people who were attacking Muslims 1400 years ago.
It then goes on to tell Muslims back then that you can attack the disbelievers who attack you. Giving permission for self defence because a previous revelation outlawed killing totally.
Muslims today use those verses as an example of how to conduct themselves today.
i.e. Only attack those who attack you, so yes these verses are still beloved in and used IN CONTEXT!!!!!!!!
Ignorant twwwwwwaaaat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem with this, and all religious texts from centuries ago, is that are taken out of the context they were written in and manipulated for modern life.
This allows people to manipulate them for pretty much any means they like.
It is a good example why religion is an outdated concept that should have no relevance to our far advanced societies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you know how many people have used this OUT DATED argument on here.
Everything in the Quran is contextualised is detail so as to avoid confusion. Deception only happens when somebody hides the context which is a way you can manipulate ANYTHING in the world.
I could copy and paste segments out of the Geneva convention and make it look like a Natzi military play book.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You probably could
posted on 23/3/17
Wonder if the Quran posting chap knows his bible as well. Few passages in that open to interpretation.
posted on 23/3/17
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posted on 23/3/17
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 31 minutes ago
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
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What?!! This can't be a quote from their holy book!! It's not even a premonition, it's a facking instruction!
posted on 23/3/17
Wonder if the Quran posting chap knows his bible as well.
--
Pete is not religious..
posted on 23/3/17
Everything in the Quran is contextualised is detail so as to avoid confusion. Deception only happens when somebody hides the context which is a way you can manipulate ANYTHING in the world.
-------
The Geneva convention is updated though, to try and keep it relevant.
All religious texts are open to varied interpretation, that's why you get so many different sects.
posted on 23/3/17
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 12 seconds ago
Few passages in that open to interpretation.
_____________________________
all religion is open to interpretation. thanks for proving my point that the verses in the quran could be used today as a way of inflicting violence. its all laughable and backwards.
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It can only be used in that way if somebody as thick as you picks it, like if a thicko is given a lighter a lot of schit can happen.
It's sad but you read the Quran with the same mind set as an extremist setting aside context.
If only we treated other books in the same way.
When you make a cheese cake do you just read the title and bang a lump of cheddar on some digestive biscuits? I have to ask because you are that stupid...
posted on 23/3/17
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 9 minutes ago
Fergies A Jolly Good Fellow
Amen to that.
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Cheers Hector, I'll not get into that
posted on 23/3/17
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posted on 23/3/17
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Fergies A Jolly Good Fellow (U17074)
posted 1 minute ago
Read through the whole thread this morning. Just wanted to say a couple of things.
Firstly, RIP to all of the innocents who tragically lost their lives yesterday. My thoughts go to their nearest and dearest at this sad time.
Secondly, my thoughts are also with Dark Phoenix, KFC, their wider family circles, and others in a similar position, whose lives that can also possibly be impacted by yesterdays atrocity, through no fault of their own, all because of the faith they were raised in.
Peace to one and all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What, no 'thirdly' for your thoughts being with those of us who, through no fault of our own other than choosing to reside in a liberal democracy, are recipients of the hatred of these radicals, and potential targets for future attacks...?
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Lambeau,
That goes without saying. The attacks are disgusting and should have no place in our, or any society.
Apologies for not making that clear
posted on 23/3/17
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Everything in the Quran is contextualised is detail so as to avoid confusion. Deception only happens when somebody hides the context which is a way you can manipulate ANYTHING in the world.
-------
The Geneva convention is updated though, to try and keep it relevant.
All religious texts are open to varied interpretation, that's why you get so many different sects.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Depends what religion you are talking about.
Shias and Sunnis are divided because they both wanted different people to succeed the Prophet (pbuh) nothing to do with the Quran
posted on 23/3/17
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 12 seconds ago
Few passages in that open to interpretation.
_____________________________
all religion is open to interpretation. thanks for proving my point that the verses in the quran could be used today as a way of inflicting violence. its all laughable and backwards.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It can only be used in that way if somebody as thick as you picks it, like if a thicko is given a lighter a lot of schit can happen.
It's sad but you read the Quran with the same mind set as an extremist setting aside context.
If only we treated other books in the same way.
When you make a cheese cake do you just read the title and bang a lump of cheddar on some digestive biscuits? I have to ask because you are that stupid...
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why the fk are homosexuals getting hanged in Iran then???
explain that please
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posted on 23/3/17
If these books weren't full of hateful phrases that are "open to misinterpretation" then uneducated and gullible types wouldn't be able to reference it when they are about to go on one of their killing sprees would they?
posted on 23/3/17
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 5 minutes ago
Few passages in that open to interpretation.
_____________________________
all religion is open to interpretation. thanks for proving my point that the verses in the quran could be used today as a way of inflicting violence. its all laughable and backwards.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You don't have a point other than taking random quotes from one book to justify your own bloodlust for others whilst ignoring quotes from others.
At least be consistent and condemn all passages from the Bible, Torah as well as Quran.
posted on 23/3/17
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