Can't really gauge much against a shocking West Ham side to be honest, but this must be as good as anything else we can use, as you say.
I really don't think Xhaka fits our system but I'd keep playing him just to get him accustomed to the PL.
The one problem we have had this season with Xhaka and Elneny in midfield is we lack a bit of creativity.
But without them we can't control the game in anyway.
I would rather we played them both and didn't get run over by literally every other team. We then have to rely on Ozil doing his thing (like he did today).
Otherwise our forwards don't get to do anything because we never have the ball and our players our terrible at pressing.
I vote for Xhakneny midfield
Xhaka will never work in a midfield 2
You guys are right he doesn't fit our system, but he's the only available midfielder we have with a good level of distribution.
Should be playing a midfield 3
Xhaka
Elneny Ramsey
Theo Alexis Ozil
Been saying that all season since Cazorla got injured and the only time we have done it was the 1st 10 mins at Stamford Bridge
"Xhaka
Elneny Ramsey
Theo Alexis Ozil"
Yeah I like that, and the thing is it wouldn't be as rigid as it looks. Monreal and Sanchez just get in each others way anyway so I'd expect Monreal to play better attacking-wise in this setup, and Ozil to drift around a lot.
Having Ozil at no 10 does not help the CMs either
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 10 minutes ago
Should be playing a midfield 3
Xhaka
Elneny Ramsey
Theo Alexis Ozil
Been saying that all season since Cazorla got injured and the only time we have done it was the 1st 10 mins at Stamford Bridge
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Not sure those 3 players have the intelligence for that set up. In the way that none of them would have a defined role, could imagine them over or under committing a lot and I doubt the management would help with the situation.
Not a bad idea on paper though, the players would have the right raw ingredients it's just I can't see it working too well in practice without a lot of tactical training.
Wenger won't change the bloody system, it's been obvious for a while we should play a mf 3
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 6 hours, 22 minutes ago
Should be playing a midfield 3
Xhaka
Elneny Ramsey
Theo Alexis Ozil
Been saying that all season since Cazorla got injured and the only time we have done it was the 1st 10 mins at Stamford Bridge
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I would prefer a midfield 3 as well. We leave so much space of the opposition at times and team running past us.
I think we need to either have Ozil or Ramsey on the Right/Left wing. We played quite good and were pretty solid with Ramsey on the right last season before he go injured.
It seems the best we have at the moment. They both had great games. West Ham didn't really offer anything, however with the form we're in it was still an impressive turnaround. We controlled the midfield and won the ball back really well. Ozil showed up much more in the second half, which was needed, because with elneny and Xhaka, we need to rely heavily on him for creativity
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 10 hours, 22 minutes ago
Xhaka will never work in a midfield 2
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This. And he will never work against a team that doesnt sit back. Weat Ham made Xhaka look good.
I wonder why Wenger has been so slow in dropping Coquelin. I have to say Gabriel was also very good. Much better than Kos has been recently.
comment by Darth Stan Kronke the Sith Lord turned Darthen Wenger to the dark side (U16927)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 10 hours, 22 minutes ago
Xhaka will never work in a midfield 2
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This. And he will never work against a team that doesnt sit back. Weat Ham made Xhaka look good.
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West Ham didn't sit back. They played a 3-4-3 and pressed high. The difference was Elneny was much better positioning than Coquelin.
Gabriel has looked quite solid in his last few appearances. Wouldn't say he's been better than kos though. He's had good games in the past, then ruins it with a run of sudden clumsy errors. With kos injury record and mert basically finished, we really could do with a top CB and a good back up in the summer.
Wouldn't say he's been better than kos though
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Kos is a better player. But ever since the first Bayern game he has been quite poor. It maybe because he has been carrying that injury. Wenger has kept quiet about it but he has been very inconsistent and in fact been subbed quite a few times since then.
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posted on 5/4/17
Can't really gauge much against a shocking West Ham side to be honest, but this must be as good as anything else we can use, as you say.
I really don't think Xhaka fits our system but I'd keep playing him just to get him accustomed to the PL.
posted on 5/4/17
The one problem we have had this season with Xhaka and Elneny in midfield is we lack a bit of creativity.
But without them we can't control the game in anyway.
I would rather we played them both and didn't get run over by literally every other team. We then have to rely on Ozil doing his thing (like he did today).
Otherwise our forwards don't get to do anything because we never have the ball and our players our terrible at pressing.
I vote for Xhakneny midfield
posted on 5/4/17
Xhaka will never work in a midfield 2
posted on 5/4/17
You guys are right he doesn't fit our system, but he's the only available midfielder we have with a good level of distribution.
posted on 5/4/17
Should be playing a midfield 3
Xhaka
Elneny Ramsey
Theo Alexis Ozil
Been saying that all season since Cazorla got injured and the only time we have done it was the 1st 10 mins at Stamford Bridge
posted on 5/4/17
"Xhaka
Elneny Ramsey
Theo Alexis Ozil"
Yeah I like that, and the thing is it wouldn't be as rigid as it looks. Monreal and Sanchez just get in each others way anyway so I'd expect Monreal to play better attacking-wise in this setup, and Ozil to drift around a lot.
posted on 5/4/17
Having Ozil at no 10 does not help the CMs either
posted on 6/4/17
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 10 minutes ago
Should be playing a midfield 3
Xhaka
Elneny Ramsey
Theo Alexis Ozil
Been saying that all season since Cazorla got injured and the only time we have done it was the 1st 10 mins at Stamford Bridge
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Not sure those 3 players have the intelligence for that set up. In the way that none of them would have a defined role, could imagine them over or under committing a lot and I doubt the management would help with the situation.
Not a bad idea on paper though, the players would have the right raw ingredients it's just I can't see it working too well in practice without a lot of tactical training.
posted on 6/4/17
Wenger won't change the bloody system, it's been obvious for a while we should play a mf 3
posted on 6/4/17
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 6 hours, 22 minutes ago
Should be playing a midfield 3
Xhaka
Elneny Ramsey
Theo Alexis Ozil
Been saying that all season since Cazorla got injured and the only time we have done it was the 1st 10 mins at Stamford Bridge
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I would prefer a midfield 3 as well. We leave so much space of the opposition at times and team running past us.
posted on 6/4/17
I think we need to either have Ozil or Ramsey on the Right/Left wing. We played quite good and were pretty solid with Ramsey on the right last season before he go injured.
posted on 6/4/17
It seems the best we have at the moment. They both had great games. West Ham didn't really offer anything, however with the form we're in it was still an impressive turnaround. We controlled the midfield and won the ball back really well. Ozil showed up much more in the second half, which was needed, because with elneny and Xhaka, we need to rely heavily on him for creativity
posted on 6/4/17
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 10 hours, 22 minutes ago
Xhaka will never work in a midfield 2
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This. And he will never work against a team that doesnt sit back. Weat Ham made Xhaka look good.
posted on 6/4/17
I wonder why Wenger has been so slow in dropping Coquelin. I have to say Gabriel was also very good. Much better than Kos has been recently.
posted on 6/4/17
comment by Darth Stan Kronke the Sith Lord turned Darthen Wenger to the dark side (U16927)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 10 hours, 22 minutes ago
Xhaka will never work in a midfield 2
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This. And he will never work against a team that doesnt sit back. Weat Ham made Xhaka look good.
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West Ham didn't sit back. They played a 3-4-3 and pressed high. The difference was Elneny was much better positioning than Coquelin.
posted on 6/4/17
Gabriel has looked quite solid in his last few appearances. Wouldn't say he's been better than kos though. He's had good games in the past, then ruins it with a run of sudden clumsy errors. With kos injury record and mert basically finished, we really could do with a top CB and a good back up in the summer.
posted on 7/4/17
Wouldn't say he's been better than kos though
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Kos is a better player. But ever since the first Bayern game he has been quite poor. It maybe because he has been carrying that injury. Wenger has kept quiet about it but he has been very inconsistent and in fact been subbed quite a few times since then.
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