I've said this on another thread. By moving Dave to a position that's unnatural for him what we actually achieved, was to not only have a square peg in a round hole, but disrupted what has been a very good back three for most the season.
Zouma is a decent player but not in a back three, put him as a CB in a back four and he's a good player - but not a back three!
Ake should have been slotted straight in to replace Alonso and left the existing back three well alone.
Yes, for all the reasons Brummie has made above, plus I would argue Ake is more of a natural goal scorer than Alonso in open play.
As soon as I heard Alonso was injured i expected to see and in the team, i was surprised to see he wasn't.
I am not trying to make excuses for Conte, but i was wondering last night if he was a bit unwell yesterday and maybe had the Alonso bug.
I felt he looked unwell in the post match interview and why was he so unusually quiet on the touchline?
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am not trying to make excuses for Conte, but i was wondering last night if he was a bit unwell yesterday and maybe had the Alonso bug.
I felt he looked unwell in the post match interview and why was he so unusually quiet on the touchline?
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They do claim Napoleon has piles when he fought the Battle of Waterloo and that knocked him of his game
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am not trying to make excuses for Conte, but i was wondering last night if he was a bit unwell yesterday and maybe had the Alonso bug.
I felt he looked unwell in the post match interview and why was he so unusually quiet on the touchline?
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They do claim Napoleon has piles when he fought the Battle of Waterloo and that knocked him of his game
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What was his excuse for defeat at Trafalgar?
Sometimes the opposition just want it more
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am not trying to make excuses for Conte, but i was wondering last night if he was a bit unwell yesterday and maybe had the Alonso bug.
I felt he looked unwell in the post match interview and why was he so unusually quiet on the touchline?
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They do claim Napoleon has piles when he fought the Battle of Waterloo and that knocked him of his game
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What was his excuse for defeat at Trafalgar?
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He wasn't a sailor!
on the subject of another player not getting game time..........
Will Bats ever start a game for Chelsea Football Club again?
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am not trying to make excuses for Conte, but i was wondering last night if he was a bit unwell yesterday and maybe had the Alonso bug.
I felt he looked unwell in the post match interview and why was he so unusually quiet on the touchline?
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They do claim Napoleon has piles when he fought the Battle of Waterloo and that knocked him of his game
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What was his excuse for defeat at Trafalgar?
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He wasn't a sailor!
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He should have hired a better one than he did
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 18 seconds ago
on the subject of another player not getting game time..........
Will Bats ever start a game for Chelsea Football Club again?
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This Saturday maybe?
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am not trying to make excuses for Conte, but i was wondering last night if he was a bit unwell yesterday and maybe had the Alonso bug.
I felt he looked unwell in the post match interview and why was he so unusually quiet on the touchline?
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They do claim Napoleon has piles when he fought the Battle of Waterloo and that knocked him of his game
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What was his excuse for defeat at Trafalgar?
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He wasn't a sailor!
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He should have hired a better one than he did
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No Frenchman would have matched my well oiled gunnery team there Biggish!
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 18 seconds ago
on the subject of another player not getting game time..........
Will Bats ever start a game for Chelsea Football Club again?
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This Saturday maybe?
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I'm doubting we'll ever see him in a starting line up!
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 18 seconds ago
on the subject of another player not getting game time..........
Will Bats ever start a game for Chelsea Football Club again?
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This Saturday maybe?
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Just can't see it Biggish. If he isn't started when Costa not available I can see Conte sticking with the 'playing himself back in to form' approach.
From what I understood, Alonso's ommission from the team was a last minute decision. I am not sure Ake made the trip to OT yesterday either
Costa should be benched irrespective whether Bats start or not.
comment by Conte'nt (U20893)
posted 3 minutes ago
From what I understood, Alonso's ommission from the team was a last minute decision. I am not sure Ake made the trip to OT yesterday either
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Ake was sat on the bench!
Win the league or not, the squad definitely needs strengthening.
If we win the league and the club hierarchy hasn’t learned from the Summers of the last 2 times we won it, then sooner or later we’re gonna have to accept the penny isn’t gonna drop.
So, he was
Then I can't really explain why he opted for Zouma instead.
It's not so much that he opted for Zouma, as Zouma couldn't reasonably be expected to play at LWB; more the fact that he didn't slot Ake straight in, in place of Alonso, as opposed by moving Dave there and put Zouma in Daves place!
A double wammy IMO!!
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 3 minutes ago
as opposed to*
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Brummie
How'd you feel if we win the league and don't improve the squad in the summer? More about our board really. I know you'll love winning the league.
Flash, hopefully they'll have learned the lessons of previous mistakes, but then they've made the same mistake more than once.
If we're to continue playing Three at the back and wing backs then they need to get together with Conte, and establish what we need.
Priority is a left and right sided WBs, we cannot continue trying to shoe horn players who are not comfortable in that position. Whether that is by bringing players in or from the youth system I don't know, personally I believe we have lads who can do a job there in the academy.
The CF situation also needs resolving, we can't go an entire season again with him blowing hot n cold and getting involved with his on field vandettas any longer. I've no idea why Batshooy can't get a look in but surely he couldn't have been worse than Costa yesterday.
And we also need a partner for Kante in midfield, Matic has become to wasteful and Fabregas just can't impose himself against top PL teams!
I'm also not sure where the present system leaves Zouma. He's a player with loads of potential but ultimately suited to being a CB in a back four. He obviously can't play as a WB and looks out of place in a back three as far as I'm concerned - shame as he's a talent
As for loving winning the league, I managed ok for forty odd years, so reckon I can handle life without it.
All I need is Chelsea!
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 36 minutes ago
It's not so much that he opted for Zouma, as Zouma couldn't reasonably be expected to play at LWB; more the fact that he didn't slot Ake straight in, in place of Alonso, as opposed by moving Dave there and put Zouma in Daves place!
A double wammy IMO!!
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I know that, I understand the tactics Brummie
I can only think, he opted with Zouma in an attempt to nullify Rashford's pace, otherwise Ake was an able replacement for Alonso.
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posted on 17/4/17
I've said this on another thread. By moving Dave to a position that's unnatural for him what we actually achieved, was to not only have a square peg in a round hole, but disrupted what has been a very good back three for most the season.
Zouma is a decent player but not in a back three, put him as a CB in a back four and he's a good player - but not a back three!
Ake should have been slotted straight in to replace Alonso and left the existing back three well alone.
posted on 17/4/17
Yes, for all the reasons Brummie has made above, plus I would argue Ake is more of a natural goal scorer than Alonso in open play.
posted on 17/4/17
As soon as I heard Alonso was injured i expected to see and in the team, i was surprised to see he wasn't.
posted on 17/4/17
I am not trying to make excuses for Conte, but i was wondering last night if he was a bit unwell yesterday and maybe had the Alonso bug.
I felt he looked unwell in the post match interview and why was he so unusually quiet on the touchline?
posted on 17/4/17
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am not trying to make excuses for Conte, but i was wondering last night if he was a bit unwell yesterday and maybe had the Alonso bug.
I felt he looked unwell in the post match interview and why was he so unusually quiet on the touchline?
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They do claim Napoleon has piles when he fought the Battle of Waterloo and that knocked him of his game
posted on 17/4/17
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am not trying to make excuses for Conte, but i was wondering last night if he was a bit unwell yesterday and maybe had the Alonso bug.
I felt he looked unwell in the post match interview and why was he so unusually quiet on the touchline?
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They do claim Napoleon has piles when he fought the Battle of Waterloo and that knocked him of his game
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What was his excuse for defeat at Trafalgar?
posted on 17/4/17
Sometimes the opposition just want it more
posted on 17/4/17
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am not trying to make excuses for Conte, but i was wondering last night if he was a bit unwell yesterday and maybe had the Alonso bug.
I felt he looked unwell in the post match interview and why was he so unusually quiet on the touchline?
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They do claim Napoleon has piles when he fought the Battle of Waterloo and that knocked him of his game
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What was his excuse for defeat at Trafalgar?
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He wasn't a sailor!
posted on 17/4/17
on the subject of another player not getting game time..........
Will Bats ever start a game for Chelsea Football Club again?
posted on 17/4/17
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am not trying to make excuses for Conte, but i was wondering last night if he was a bit unwell yesterday and maybe had the Alonso bug.
I felt he looked unwell in the post match interview and why was he so unusually quiet on the touchline?
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They do claim Napoleon has piles when he fought the Battle of Waterloo and that knocked him of his game
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What was his excuse for defeat at Trafalgar?
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He wasn't a sailor!
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He should have hired a better one than he did
posted on 17/4/17
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 18 seconds ago
on the subject of another player not getting game time..........
Will Bats ever start a game for Chelsea Football Club again?
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This Saturday maybe?
posted on 17/4/17
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am not trying to make excuses for Conte, but i was wondering last night if he was a bit unwell yesterday and maybe had the Alonso bug.
I felt he looked unwell in the post match interview and why was he so unusually quiet on the touchline?
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They do claim Napoleon has piles when he fought the Battle of Waterloo and that knocked him of his game
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What was his excuse for defeat at Trafalgar?
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He wasn't a sailor!
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He should have hired a better one than he did
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No Frenchman would have matched my well oiled gunnery team there Biggish!
posted on 17/4/17
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 18 seconds ago
on the subject of another player not getting game time..........
Will Bats ever start a game for Chelsea Football Club again?
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This Saturday maybe?
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I'm doubting we'll ever see him in a starting line up!
posted on 17/4/17
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 18 seconds ago
on the subject of another player not getting game time..........
Will Bats ever start a game for Chelsea Football Club again?
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This Saturday maybe?
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Just can't see it Biggish. If he isn't started when Costa not available I can see Conte sticking with the 'playing himself back in to form' approach.
posted on 17/4/17
From what I understood, Alonso's ommission from the team was a last minute decision. I am not sure Ake made the trip to OT yesterday either
posted on 17/4/17
Costa should be benched irrespective whether Bats start or not.
posted on 17/4/17
comment by Conte'nt (U20893)
posted 3 minutes ago
From what I understood, Alonso's ommission from the team was a last minute decision. I am not sure Ake made the trip to OT yesterday either
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Ake was sat on the bench!
posted on 17/4/17
Win the league or not, the squad definitely needs strengthening.
If we win the league and the club hierarchy hasn’t learned from the Summers of the last 2 times we won it, then sooner or later we’re gonna have to accept the penny isn’t gonna drop.
posted on 17/4/17
So, he was
Then I can't really explain why he opted for Zouma instead.
posted on 17/4/17
It's not so much that he opted for Zouma, as Zouma couldn't reasonably be expected to play at LWB; more the fact that he didn't slot Ake straight in, in place of Alonso, as opposed by moving Dave there and put Zouma in Daves place!
A double wammy IMO!!
posted on 17/4/17
as opposed to*
posted on 17/4/17
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 3 minutes ago
as opposed to*
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Brummie
How'd you feel if we win the league and don't improve the squad in the summer? More about our board really. I know you'll love winning the league.
posted on 17/4/17
Flash, hopefully they'll have learned the lessons of previous mistakes, but then they've made the same mistake more than once.
If we're to continue playing Three at the back and wing backs then they need to get together with Conte, and establish what we need.
Priority is a left and right sided WBs, we cannot continue trying to shoe horn players who are not comfortable in that position. Whether that is by bringing players in or from the youth system I don't know, personally I believe we have lads who can do a job there in the academy.
The CF situation also needs resolving, we can't go an entire season again with him blowing hot n cold and getting involved with his on field vandettas any longer. I've no idea why Batshooy can't get a look in but surely he couldn't have been worse than Costa yesterday.
And we also need a partner for Kante in midfield, Matic has become to wasteful and Fabregas just can't impose himself against top PL teams!
I'm also not sure where the present system leaves Zouma. He's a player with loads of potential but ultimately suited to being a CB in a back four. He obviously can't play as a WB and looks out of place in a back three as far as I'm concerned - shame as he's a talent
posted on 17/4/17
As for loving winning the league, I managed ok for forty odd years, so reckon I can handle life without it.
All I need is Chelsea!
posted on 17/4/17
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 36 minutes ago
It's not so much that he opted for Zouma, as Zouma couldn't reasonably be expected to play at LWB; more the fact that he didn't slot Ake straight in, in place of Alonso, as opposed by moving Dave there and put Zouma in Daves place!
A double wammy IMO!!
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I know that, I understand the tactics Brummie
I can only think, he opted with Zouma in an attempt to nullify Rashford's pace, otherwise Ake was an able replacement for Alonso.
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