Although he is improving which is obvs good, it is of concern that he has had to face the most shots, or is that just me? Seems like the defence could be doing a better job. I know we battered them but didnt bolton have like double our shots on target?
No concerns at all with the lad, he'll be around for a long time!
that's quality.
But still, there's harder teams to face so it'll be interesting to see how he does in the bigger games.
Really hoping he puts in a motm display against Chelsea and Man City
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Although he is improving which is obvs good, it is of concern that he has had to face the most shots, or is that just me? Seems like the defence could be doing a better job. I know we battered them but didnt bolton have like double our shots on target?
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we were missing our first choice CB's so it's understandable. Still the youngsters have done a great job!
Although he is improving which is obvs good, it is of concern that he has had to face the most shots, or is that just me? Seems like the defence could be doing a better job. I know we battered them but didnt bolton have like double our shots on target?
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Erm have you not watched the games?
Since De Gea conceded the most goals from outside the 18 ayrd box in La Liga last season and after Dzeko's goal, teams have been bombarding him with ridiculous long shots
What can our defence do when opposing teams opt to shoot from 25 yards out regardless of angle. Im not so worried as I dont rememeber our opopnents having too many clear cut chances
Nice stats but the devil is in the detail.
I don't remember him having to make that many difficult saves. Is it possible that, thanks to our dominance in the first four games and to the efforts of our excellent young defenders, he has faced a number of hopeful punts from distance?
That's not to say I don't think he's a very good keeper in the making (and the distribution stat is very encouraging) but it's better to deal with reality than rose-tinted glasses.
What can our defence do when opposing teams opt to shoot from 25 yards out regardless of angle. I
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Close them down perhaps, just a thought.
And also you have just belitlled your own thread and his achievment, if all these are ridiculous long shots, then he isnt even having to much is he?
LFC fan in peace
He has looked shakey, yet has made some very decent stops. I think do think that this is the transition from the Spanish game where many keepers are shot stoppers. De Gea seems to parry a lot - again a trait of the Spanish game - however it is very early days, and I would say the biggest difference between La Liga and EPL is in defense, so in away he has the most to learn really.
He has all the attributes to be a great keeper and is just the player you needed to step in to VDS boots - lets not forget he will be (probably) in his prime when Phil Jones is close to retiring
Benyguero....exactly why he's in my fantasy team. Loads of shots at him with little danger of going in.
But still, there's harder teams to face so it'll be interesting to see how he does in the bigger games.
Really hoping he puts in a motm display against Chelsea and Man City
agreed.especially the next game away to stoke with all the set peices coming into the box,hope he can catch some Delap throw ins aswell,VDS caught about half of them,hope De gea can do the same
What can our defence do when opposing teams opt to shoot from 25 yards out regardless of angle. I
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Close them down perhaps, just a thought.
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Not when there's no danger or very little chance of them scoring as youll leave gaps
Since De Gea conceded the most goals from outside the 18 yard box in La Liga last season
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Didn´t know that.... Belief is everything and i have faith in our young lad!
He's had one less save than Freidel, but yeah he's up there. Weird though, that he's had to save so many shots. Keepers like Declan Rudd have only had to face 10, lol.
Thing is, De Gea isnt the best at saving long shots, thats been proven, but hes not bad as well.
Teams seem to think as long as they get a shot on target, it will go in as De Gea is hopeless. As a result, teams are shoooting from ridiculous distances and angles.
Unelss we're facing a team who have players who can actually shoot, I hope teams continue to shoot as they are effectively gifting us possession back
It doesn't concern me that he has had the most shots at him, it's all practice for him, so I say bring it on, shoot at him all they like, he'll only get better at stopping them
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fair point
the counter argument is you're going to keep clean sheets more often than not so more shots from distance couldn't hurt even if he didn't have that reputation. If odds are you're not going to score anyway you might as well take a crack.
This whole long distance shots thing is misleading.
Could it not be that A Madrid stood off and let teams take shots? I saw lot of games last season and he just couldn't have saved some of them he had no chance.
Has nothing to do with being weak at long range shots cos he isn't weak he's actually great at saving shot.
His weak area is low shots cos his feet are not well positioned. Something he will learn.
Im with Benzeguero on this. Let other teams fall for "De Gea conceded the most goals from outside the 18 yard box in La Liga last season" and shoot from ridicules distances and angles where there is no chance of scoring. Let em shoot, trying to close them down at such distances could leave gaps in the defensive line.
I watched couple of Atlético Madrid matches last season. the pace de gea come of the line is truly amazing. I dont have stats but he must be one of the fastest goal keepers in the world. This allow us to play a higher up the pitch than we usually do. I think that is one reasons why SAF choose de gea over a established experience keeper like Stekelenburg(spelling).
His old Coach came out when he heard people were criticsing De Gae and said "there will be a feast of people eating their own words come the end of the season."
To be honest, about half of them were Van der Vaart's center circle shots...
does any one have the stats for last season
I.e. how many he let in outside the box and then how many the second placed keeper let in?
it just seems a ridiculous statistic as people have pointed out above it can be affected by a huge number of factors
the more games he plays the more confident he will become and the footwork and positioning will become more instinctive - the guy doesn't even have half of van der saars experience so theres bound to be areas for improvement
I.e. how many he let in outside the box and then how many the second placed keeper let in?
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He let in 7 or 8.
Theres a youtube video showing all the goals he conceded from outside the 18 ayrd box last season. Tbf, over half of them no keeper wouldve saved
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Although he is improving which is obvs good, it is of concern that he has had to face the most shots, or is that just me? Seems like the defence could be doing a better job. I know we battered them but didnt bolton have like double our shots on target?
posted on 12/9/11
No concerns at all with the lad, he'll be around for a long time!
posted on 12/9/11
that's quality.
But still, there's harder teams to face so it'll be interesting to see how he does in the bigger games.
Really hoping he puts in a motm display against Chelsea and Man City
posted on 12/9/11
comment by TheStrettyEnd - He Tracks Back My Lord - The Defamation Of Strettland Banks * (U3123)
posted 1 minute ago
Although he is improving which is obvs good, it is of concern that he has had to face the most shots, or is that just me? Seems like the defence could be doing a better job. I know we battered them but didnt bolton have like double our shots on target?
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we were missing our first choice CB's so it's understandable. Still the youngsters have done a great job!
posted on 12/9/11
Although he is improving which is obvs good, it is of concern that he has had to face the most shots, or is that just me? Seems like the defence could be doing a better job. I know we battered them but didnt bolton have like double our shots on target?
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Erm have you not watched the games?
Since De Gea conceded the most goals from outside the 18 ayrd box in La Liga last season and after Dzeko's goal, teams have been bombarding him with ridiculous long shots
What can our defence do when opposing teams opt to shoot from 25 yards out regardless of angle. Im not so worried as I dont rememeber our opopnents having too many clear cut chances
posted on 12/9/11
Nice stats but the devil is in the detail.
I don't remember him having to make that many difficult saves. Is it possible that, thanks to our dominance in the first four games and to the efforts of our excellent young defenders, he has faced a number of hopeful punts from distance?
That's not to say I don't think he's a very good keeper in the making (and the distribution stat is very encouraging) but it's better to deal with reality than rose-tinted glasses.
posted on 12/9/11
What can our defence do when opposing teams opt to shoot from 25 yards out regardless of angle. I
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Close them down perhaps, just a thought.
posted on 12/9/11
And also you have just belitlled your own thread and his achievment, if all these are ridiculous long shots, then he isnt even having to much is he?
posted on 12/9/11
LFC fan in peace
He has looked shakey, yet has made some very decent stops. I think do think that this is the transition from the Spanish game where many keepers are shot stoppers. De Gea seems to parry a lot - again a trait of the Spanish game - however it is very early days, and I would say the biggest difference between La Liga and EPL is in defense, so in away he has the most to learn really.
He has all the attributes to be a great keeper and is just the player you needed to step in to VDS boots - lets not forget he will be (probably) in his prime when Phil Jones is close to retiring
posted on 12/9/11
Benyguero....exactly why he's in my fantasy team. Loads of shots at him with little danger of going in.
posted on 12/9/11
But still, there's harder teams to face so it'll be interesting to see how he does in the bigger games.
Really hoping he puts in a motm display against Chelsea and Man City
agreed.especially the next game away to stoke with all the set peices coming into the box,hope he can catch some Delap throw ins aswell,VDS caught about half of them,hope De gea can do the same
posted on 12/9/11
What can our defence do when opposing teams opt to shoot from 25 yards out regardless of angle. I
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Close them down perhaps, just a thought.
_____________________________________
Not when there's no danger or very little chance of them scoring as youll leave gaps
posted on 12/9/11
Since De Gea conceded the most goals from outside the 18 yard box in La Liga last season
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Didn´t know that.... Belief is everything and i have faith in our young lad!
posted on 12/9/11
He's had one less save than Freidel, but yeah he's up there. Weird though, that he's had to save so many shots. Keepers like Declan Rudd have only had to face 10, lol.
posted on 12/9/11
Thing is, De Gea isnt the best at saving long shots, thats been proven, but hes not bad as well.
Teams seem to think as long as they get a shot on target, it will go in as De Gea is hopeless. As a result, teams are shoooting from ridiculous distances and angles.
Unelss we're facing a team who have players who can actually shoot, I hope teams continue to shoot as they are effectively gifting us possession back
posted on 12/9/11
It doesn't concern me that he has had the most shots at him, it's all practice for him, so I say bring it on, shoot at him all they like, he'll only get better at stopping them
posted on 12/9/11
>>comment by Benzeguero
fair point
the counter argument is you're going to keep clean sheets more often than not so more shots from distance couldn't hurt even if he didn't have that reputation. If odds are you're not going to score anyway you might as well take a crack.
posted on 13/9/11
This whole long distance shots thing is misleading.
Could it not be that A Madrid stood off and let teams take shots? I saw lot of games last season and he just couldn't have saved some of them he had no chance.
Has nothing to do with being weak at long range shots cos he isn't weak he's actually great at saving shot.
His weak area is low shots cos his feet are not well positioned. Something he will learn.
posted on 13/9/11
Im with Benzeguero on this. Let other teams fall for "De Gea conceded the most goals from outside the 18 yard box in La Liga last season" and shoot from ridicules distances and angles where there is no chance of scoring. Let em shoot, trying to close them down at such distances could leave gaps in the defensive line.
I watched couple of Atlético Madrid matches last season. the pace de gea come of the line is truly amazing. I dont have stats but he must be one of the fastest goal keepers in the world. This allow us to play a higher up the pitch than we usually do. I think that is one reasons why SAF choose de gea over a established experience keeper like Stekelenburg(spelling).
posted on 13/9/11
His old Coach came out when he heard people were criticsing De Gae and said "there will be a feast of people eating their own words come the end of the season."
posted on 13/9/11
To be honest, about half of them were Van der Vaart's center circle shots...
posted on 13/9/11
does any one have the stats for last season
I.e. how many he let in outside the box and then how many the second placed keeper let in?
it just seems a ridiculous statistic as people have pointed out above it can be affected by a huge number of factors
the more games he plays the more confident he will become and the footwork and positioning will become more instinctive - the guy doesn't even have half of van der saars experience so theres bound to be areas for improvement
posted on 13/9/11
I.e. how many he let in outside the box and then how many the second placed keeper let in?
________________________________
He let in 7 or 8.
Theres a youtube video showing all the goals he conceded from outside the 18 ayrd box last season. Tbf, over half of them no keeper wouldve saved
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