Agree.....just not sure what with

The lack of championship experience is deffo a concern!

I share the concern of the article. Lambert wanted experienced championship players and many were not enamoured by that idea but there is a danger that we aren't just edgineg away from that, we are potentially taking a completely different route. First we have to hope that the players signed are good, certainly hoping they are better than most of those we bought in a year ago, and that Solbakken brought in during his era. Secondly we have to hope that they can cut it in this highly competitive league that is vastly different to what these players will have found in the Portuguese league.

I hope the new guys will form a team alongside not instead of the likes of Batth, Doherty, Edwards and Dicko. To completely move away from players that know this division could be a big mistake no matter how good the new signings are

We need a mix but the problem is we are amalgamating a clash of styles among the players with players that are comfortable with the ball all.day long like Nunes, Miranda, Cavaleiro, Costa and Saiss trying to fit alongside some players that are frankly hopeless with it like Batth, Edwards, Coady et al.

It is a conundrum as we saw last season with Lambert favouring a style which worked best without the ball but that method will not win promotion so let's hope Nuno can figure it out and be brave enough to stick to his principles and give the ball players the room to work.

comment by Carl Ikeme WWFC#1 (U11551)
posted 43 seconds ago

...players that are comfortable with the ball all.day long like Nunes, Miranda, Cavaleiro, Costa and Saiss
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Once they've got through the first few months of getting used to playing football in the UK.

The only thing Saiss looked comfortable doing in some games last season was kicking the ball out of play

Well yeah if you ignore the fact he was tackling as much as Edwards and maintaining twice as much possession during the final few months of the season and everyone but Spiers could see that.

comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 43 minutes ago
The only thing Saiss looked comfortable doing in some games last season was kicking the ball out of play
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It takes them a while to acclimatise.

It would be so sweet to be as naïve as cinci. This player has a foreign sounding name so he must be technically brilliant. This player has an English sounding name so he must play hoofball. Well it saves the tedium of actually having to watch your 8th favourite sport I guess Judge football by stats and if you cant find any stats that suit your argument just invent some, nobody will bother checking

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'Who on earth said Ronan in midfield''

The football world did.

As for the rest, I guess we shall see, you have supported the last two years of crap where the mediocre have been given all the chances in the world but I guarantee that when promotion is sealed it will be because of a dominating midfield and far better possession than we currently display.

comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 12 minutes ago
It would be so sweet to be as naïve as cinci. This player has a foreign sounding name so he must be technically brilliant. This player has an English sounding name so he must play hoofball. Well it saves the tedium of actually having to watch your 8th favourite sport I guessJudge football by stats and if you cant find any stats that suit your argument just invent some, nobody will bother checking

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He's an expert, he told me. (Just don't challenge him on any of his views.) Not sure you have to filter him.

I didn't see any Kangaroos in Austria but last time I was there I drove up a narrow mountain road and was confronted by a herd of cows coming the other way who barely had room to get past me. Bit scary the way they started jumping across the bonnet of the car to get away from the huge drop on the passenger side of the car. Maybe they had learned that trick from kangaroos

Perhaps someone should point out to the OP that Wolves play in the championship not league 1. Feck's sake onejohnny where have you been for the last 3 years?

Well spotted gem. Although if Nuno turns out to be Stale Mark Two then who knows

I'd like to make a comment about the OP's concern about players taking a pride in pulling on a Wolves shirt. That's very sentimental and if you asked any Scottish players pulling on their national shirt, they'd say the same. problem is, it hasn't got Scotland and it won't help us either.

The kind of hoofball, putting in a shift football, has to be kicked into touch. Players can be fit enough without the need to run around like headless chickens.

Nuno has stated quite rightly that he wants players who can use the ball well and are used to retaining the ball rather than just hoofing it upfield. he has brought in players who I hope will be able to carry out his tactics. Unfortunately there will be players he will have inherited that will not be able to adjust to this new style.

Pretty much like Stale tried to do when he came into the club. He also tried to play possession football, but was thwarted by players he had inherited not used to his style. Having said that, I fully expect a barrage from Mr knowitall to respond with his continued hatred towards SS.

There are plenty of players at the club who Nuno will be inheriting who are quite capable of playing ball to feet football. Costa, Cavaleiro, Dicko, Bodvarsson, Enobakhare, Graham, Ronan, Gibbs-White, Marshall and to some degree Price are all ball players and should have no problem adapting to a short passing, quick moving game if that is what Nuno asks of them. The limited ability players and hoofball merchants will be weeded out and sidelined or disposed of. Evans, Coady, Batth, Hause and maybe Doherty all come into this category and it would surprise me if any of the first 4 ever appear in a Wolves shirt again.

As for Solbakken, he tried to implement a type of football which none of the squad were used to playing. Unlike Nuno he didn't bring in a nucleus of ball players to shape the group and he forgot the golden rule:
Yow cor mek a silk puss aat of a sow's earole!

So are we saying that quality and putting a shift in are mutually exclusive?

I would like to see both together to be frank. If for example, Neves has the quality that is touted and puts in as much of a shift as say Edwards/ Doyle/ An.other then we should have a pretty decent recipe in midfield. From what I saw of Jordan Graham, he had both attributes and we were much the better team for it. Same for Sako, same for Costa, same for Doherty..... not the same for Afobe really- oodles of quality and only a fraction of effort for me. There are many players like this that expect it on a plate, not meaning to single out Afobe but he is the only one that is springs to mind from recent viewing.

If the two attributes are indeed mutually exclusive then I would rather have 11 Edwards than 11 lazy boys.

The problem with Solbakken was nothing to do with the players not being capable it was that the football his teams play bears no resemblance to what he said he was going to play. His football was as far away from the beautiful game as it's possible to be. Negative, slow, pedestrian football and if his team were not closed down he would be delighted to see his back four pass the ball amongst themselves for 80 minutes. The greatest result of his managerial career was against Barcelona in the champions league and Guradiola described it as the most anti football display he had ever seen from any team. It's from the lessons learned from Solbakken that I take no notice at all of what a manager says he is going to do, only interested in the reality on the pitch

Shock as team sets up to play anti football against Barcelona.

Agree with a lot of that bully but not the bit about having eleven grafters over eleven quality additions as the better players in world football let the ball do the talking, you can run as hard and fast as you like but the ball will always move quicker and it is this philosophy that needs to change at wolves.

Solbakken got plenty wrong at wolves but his biggest error was relying on the tried and failed as we saw when Kenny came in a changed the side completely.

Trying to play tidier football with players that are not capable won't work hence we see the likes of Saiss and Cavaleiro struggle at times alongside such players and make no mistake they are two of the best players at the club.

Setting up not to lose games as we have done the last
18 months speaks volumes for the abilities of the players we have relied upon the most in midfield in Edwards Coady and saville.

"but not the bit about having eleven grafters over eleven quality additions as the better players in world football let the ball do the talking"

I didn't say I'd rather have 11 grafters against 11 quality players but maybe it was implied.

Thing is, the grafters we have also have quite a bit of quality. The opposite isn't so true. Again, maybe unfairly taking Afobe as an example..he had 80% quality and 10% effort.

The other side of the coin, Edwards (or Dicko if you want a striker comparison), 60% quality and 90% effort.

Which would you rather? For me it is more entertaining and less frustrating to watch the latter. 100% lung bursting effort should be a given, not a choice. Having 100% effort and 90% quality would be immense.

I hear you bully so I guess it depends on what type of football you enjoy or if you played then what kind of football you tried to play.

For me it is and has always been about passing the ball and keeping it neat and tidy hence my favourite players ever being Valderama, Riquelme and Iniesta.

By the way I completely disagree with the stick Afobe gets as in one of the last games he played for us it was shown he covered more distance than anyone else on the pitch and I think he suffers from looking disinterested at times rather than actually being disinterested.

Can't argue with a self-proclaimed "expert".

The tedious behaviour of buteCinci gate is ridiculous

comment by Brooksey - senza rischio non c'e vittoria (U2087)
posted 1 minute ago
The tedious behaviour of buteCinci gate is ridiculous
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Is he going on again? Something about players fitting in perhaps? Expert? Blah blah blah?

Anyway do I owe you dinner