what about Tommy k and Gibson,do they still have something to offer the club
Gibson is injured I believed - and chances are he would have moved in the transfer window if he hadn't been.
Tommy K - I have no idea he has been frozen out so why he is still here is beyond me
Its an odd decision because im sure the glazers would have been glad to get Gibson, Kuszack etc off the wage bill even if it were for 6 or 12 months
Maybe we are paying too high wages and no clubs around think our rejects are worth the cash.
Diouf will NEVER be good enough for Utd, he struggled to get into Blackburn side last season.
Need to offload asap !! Waste of wages and could get 500k back we wasted.
I think diouf should have been off, what is he like 24 and no way he will get games. Especially with berbatov and the useless owen 4th and 5th choice. God knows why we kept him.
Defo feel like the useless gibson, when push came to shove, due to wages or something we couldnt shift him.
He didnt pull up any tree's on loan at blackburn though so maybe there was just no interest.
comment by daveunited (U1664)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
what about Tommy k and Gibson,do they still have something to offer the club
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No and no.
How many goals did Blackburn score last season? Diouf is the only striker we've got (besides Rooney) who can bully defenders.
He is useful infront of goal. If we loaned him to a team that created chances, he would score bucket loads.
Another player with talent allowed to rot in the reserves whilst people like Owen fill squad places
I think Diouf is looking lively and brings something new to the table... strong, good finishing, good heading, good movement, good touches around the box. What's not to like... at least wait for him to get a few CC games under his belt.
It seems to me that, as usual, our fans need a few panto villains to boo and he has somehow got into that category.
People need to remember that those Diouf and Macheda were bought in before Chico.... I don't think anyone could foresee just what an impact Chico would have... The staff probably thought that Diouf, Macheda and Chico would be fighting it out for starts.
Panto Villain?
I dont think anyone's saying he is a "panto villain" or blaming him for poor performances. He simply isnt getting any games or isnt even likley to.
We have 5 strikers, all of which are better or more suitbale of cc games.
And as I said, the guys like 24, he should of made some impact by now.
its a make of break season for him. he didnt get that much first team football at blackburn - whether that was to do with talent or the manager/owners situations there we don't know.
I would imagine one of macheda/diouf will be sold at the end of this year or possibly January
Panto Villain?
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What I mean by this is that you are negatively judging him without any clear reason.
You use age (23 btw)... but Drogba was still plying his trade in league 1 in France at a similar age. He didn't turn our too badly.
Why bother writing him off before he has even really started his UTD career. Is he personally costing you any extra cash? Will we make a huge loss if we sell him?
No, but im thinking maybe at his age and with the players ahead of him it really is quite pointless to have him wasting squad space for an over 21 year old to just literally maybe get some sub games in the cc.
Owen will be gone next year (he should have gone this year)....
That leaves Rooney, Berba, Chico, Welbeck and one of Macheda and Diouf to fight it out for Owen's spot. You could agrue that we only need 4 strikers... but a 25 man squad means we can have the luxury of a 5th striker.
Diouf looks way better than Macheda right now.
Captain_Positivity (U2394) : "Diouf will NEVER be good enough for Utd, he struggled to get into Blackburn side last season."
Are you really so naive as to believe that not being selected for Blackburn is an indication of lack of quality?
Did you think Rossi was rubbish because he failed to get into a dire Newcastle side under Roeder? Is Kiko rubbish because he couldn't get into a side who were relegated from Serie A?
Your dogmatic assertion that he will "never" be good enough rather lacks credibility, given how far off your recent predictions have been.
"what about Tommy k and Gibson,do they still have something to offer the club"
Yes - Their absence.
Was 26 league appearances that bad, anyway? He didn't score many, but Blackburn were unusually poor last season and created little for him.
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posted on 13/9/11
what about Tommy k and Gibson,do they still have something to offer the club
posted on 13/9/11
Gibson is injured I believed - and chances are he would have moved in the transfer window if he hadn't been.
Tommy K - I have no idea he has been frozen out so why he is still here is beyond me
Its an odd decision because im sure the glazers would have been glad to get Gibson, Kuszack etc off the wage bill even if it were for 6 or 12 months
posted on 13/9/11
Maybe we are paying too high wages and no clubs around think our rejects are worth the cash.
posted on 13/9/11
Diouf will NEVER be good enough for Utd, he struggled to get into Blackburn side last season.
Need to offload asap !! Waste of wages and could get 500k back we wasted.
posted on 13/9/11
I think diouf should have been off, what is he like 24 and no way he will get games. Especially with berbatov and the useless owen 4th and 5th choice. God knows why we kept him.
Defo feel like the useless gibson, when push came to shove, due to wages or something we couldnt shift him.
He didnt pull up any tree's on loan at blackburn though so maybe there was just no interest.
posted on 13/9/11
comment by daveunited (U1664)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
what about Tommy k and Gibson,do they still have something to offer the club
......................
No and no.
posted on 13/9/11
How many goals did Blackburn score last season? Diouf is the only striker we've got (besides Rooney) who can bully defenders.
He is useful infront of goal. If we loaned him to a team that created chances, he would score bucket loads.
Another player with talent allowed to rot in the reserves whilst people like Owen fill squad places
posted on 13/9/11
I think Diouf is looking lively and brings something new to the table... strong, good finishing, good heading, good movement, good touches around the box. What's not to like... at least wait for him to get a few CC games under his belt.
It seems to me that, as usual, our fans need a few panto villains to boo and he has somehow got into that category.
People need to remember that those Diouf and Macheda were bought in before Chico.... I don't think anyone could foresee just what an impact Chico would have... The staff probably thought that Diouf, Macheda and Chico would be fighting it out for starts.
posted on 13/9/11
Panto Villain?
I dont think anyone's saying he is a "panto villain" or blaming him for poor performances. He simply isnt getting any games or isnt even likley to.
We have 5 strikers, all of which are better or more suitbale of cc games.
And as I said, the guys like 24, he should of made some impact by now.
posted on 13/9/11
its a make of break season for him. he didnt get that much first team football at blackburn - whether that was to do with talent or the manager/owners situations there we don't know.
I would imagine one of macheda/diouf will be sold at the end of this year or possibly January
posted on 13/9/11
Panto Villain?
------------------------
What I mean by this is that you are negatively judging him without any clear reason.
You use age (23 btw)... but Drogba was still plying his trade in league 1 in France at a similar age. He didn't turn our too badly.
Why bother writing him off before he has even really started his UTD career. Is he personally costing you any extra cash? Will we make a huge loss if we sell him?
posted on 13/9/11
No, but im thinking maybe at his age and with the players ahead of him it really is quite pointless to have him wasting squad space for an over 21 year old to just literally maybe get some sub games in the cc.
posted on 13/9/11
Owen will be gone next year (he should have gone this year)....
That leaves Rooney, Berba, Chico, Welbeck and one of Macheda and Diouf to fight it out for Owen's spot. You could agrue that we only need 4 strikers... but a 25 man squad means we can have the luxury of a 5th striker.
Diouf looks way better than Macheda right now.
posted on 13/9/11
Captain_Positivity (U2394) : "Diouf will NEVER be good enough for Utd, he struggled to get into Blackburn side last season."
Are you really so naive as to believe that not being selected for Blackburn is an indication of lack of quality?
Did you think Rossi was rubbish because he failed to get into a dire Newcastle side under Roeder? Is Kiko rubbish because he couldn't get into a side who were relegated from Serie A?
Your dogmatic assertion that he will "never" be good enough rather lacks credibility, given how far off your recent predictions have been.
"what about Tommy k and Gibson,do they still have something to offer the club"
Yes - Their absence.
posted on 13/9/11
Was 26 league appearances that bad, anyway? He didn't score many, but Blackburn were unusually poor last season and created little for him.
posted on 13/9/11
He's not that good.
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