comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 1 minute ago
You're right Foxello, there are far too many fans who seem to want Shakey to fail, shame they're wasting their breath.
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I don't think anyone *wants* Shakespeare to fail. But I can't imagine there are many who genuinely, in their heart of hearts, believe he'll last the season. Maybe not even yourself...
Who wants Shakey to fail if he fails we fail. Theres a balance between the two. CR went and he won the impossible. A promoted assistant manager who's new to Managment and who does not have his fall team avaliable gets my sympathy but not for having a premiership winning team who cant even pass to each other. Midfield is light weight but his job is to use his existing players to play to there best level and thats not happening.
The excuse of the top six teams now after the last two games does not work anymore
Shakey failing doesn't mean relegation, just look at CR and how well him leaving worked.
I do honestly believe their are plenty of fans who want him gone, for that to happen he has to fail!
Shame they'll be disappointed.
I think Shakey will come good. I feel it in my heart and head. He's the man.
Only watched the first half due to other commitments but that first half was woeful, Ranieri's 2nd season woeful. Glad we managed a point atleast.
Perhaps the players have got wind of the fact Nigel Pearson is waiting on the wings to swoop in and save the day if things go sour.
For the first time today I thought Shakespeare probably isn't the answer. The jury's been out and to a degree still is, but I don't think the players understand what they're supposed to be doing out there. It wasn't exactly a team full of newbies out there today; aside from Maguire all the starters were here last season. Yet time and time again Matt Elliott was trying to work out our tactics or pointing out all the holes in them. If the energy, effort and togetherness isn't there, what exactly does Shakespeare bring?
I'd like to see him get 10-12 games but it's hard to see how things can come good based on that.
Yet the tactics were the same we always play, 4411 and the roles the same as exactly what we do every week?
Gray for Mahrez was the only change and he filled the Mahrez role very well, doing little and not coming back much.
Just one of those days where we played below par but got a result, if Oki hadn't of fluffed his lines it would have been the perfect smash and grab.
But it wouldn't have been a perfect smash and grab. Bournemouth should have scored several.
They didn't though, in fact they only had the very early chance where Defoe hit the bar which should have been a goal given his quality.
Had Oki of scored it would have been perfect considering their possession in our half.
A point away to Bournemouth is still a reasonable result even considering the way we played, or because of the way we played.
Gray can have no complaints when he's dropped again now.
3-5-2 with Iborra, Ndidi and Mahrez behind Ian and Vardy please.
Oh the doom and gloom.
We didnt beat Bournemouth away ( just as we didnt when we won the league), we didnt beat Huddersfield away.
Shame on us, we should be beating these teams.
Im studying the champinship teams , ready for next season, if we can,t beat these teams we are relegation certs.
Judging by the doom and gloom on this board, I was one of the lucky ones I didnt watch it or listen to it on RL. Watched Gillette soccer Saturday and Kammy was doing our game. It was the first time Ive seen him do one and not once say ' unbelievable Jeff ' Even he was somewhat subdued. I,ll have to watch it on motd, thats if I stay awake, its bound to be on last
Shakespear out. Lets panic. theres loads of good managers out there, Arry, FDB, Paulo Sousa and Peter Taylor is back on the scene (hint of sarcasm)
Can we stay up with 31 more 0-0 draws
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I don't expect to be beating them. I do expect to be competing with them with players looking something other than lost on the pitch and like they have a plan. If Bournemouth had any confidence up front they would have been out of sight today.
comment by Legless Fox (U21476)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
Oh the doom and gloom.
We didnt beat Bournemouth away ( just as we didnt when we won the league), we didnt beat Huddersfield away.
Shame on us, we should be beating these teams.
Im studying the champinship teams , ready for next season, if we can,t beat these teams we are relegation certs.
Judging by the doom and gloom on this board, I was one of the lucky ones I didnt watch it or listen to it on RL. Watched Gillette soccer Saturday and Kammy was doing our game. It was the first time Ive seen him do one and not once say ' unbelievable Jeff ' Even he was somewhat subdued. I,ll have to watch it on motd, thats if I stay awake, its bound to be on last
Shakespear out. Lets panic. theres loads of good managers out there, Arry, FDB, Paulo Sousa and Peter Taylor is back on the scene (hint of sarcasm)
Can we stay up with 31 more 0-0 draws
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Trust me... if you had watched the full 90 mins you wouldn't be so jovial about it.... it was truly shocking and I'm not over egging it
Had no game plan. Time after time after time give the ball away. Was Lule watching a team of strangers play together. Bournemouth played superbly. Style and quality in the ball. Could have lost that 6 or 7 nil. But the one plus we were resilient and some how got a point. God it was dire though. Don't bother with MOTD.
Dunge
I,ll pinch TBs earlier comment.' But they didnt though '
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It's more the law of averages that I'm concerned about than this single result, which isn't bad.
Having a convo with me ma who was at the game, she was saying it looked very worrying and worse than anything we saw last year.
Let's hope this is a one off and not the start of the rot!
Bad day at the office, nothing more.
Like the bad days at the office against Huddersfield and Liverpool? The Huddersfield game I was willing to put down to a one off, but the same happened today and with the same problems we saw against Liverpool: The pressing is as aimless as the passing. It's screaming out lack of management.
First half against Huddersfield was woeful but like today we improved second half.
The issue is both then and today we struggle when teams like that play a high intensity pressing game on us, anyone can see we don't like it and currently don't have the players to fight fire with fire BUT we had exactly the same problem the year we won the League and we still haven't found an answer to it apart from going on to win the League.
Not sure why you mention Liverpool, 4 teams we've payed so far are way ahead of us in playing quality, Liverpool being one of them and yet we gave all 4 a game and should have got a point out of Liverpool, Arsenal and possibly Chelsea.
Midfield is a key component of any team and we've been handicapped all season so far by injuries and incompetence, once that's finally sorted and yes that might Xmas we'll know more where we are.
Personally I'd go 352 but then I've been saying that for the last two seasons.
comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 4 hours, 13 minutes ago
Bad day at the office, nothing more.
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i watched the whole game and i'm with Miami it was awful we were totally out played by a team with an equally back recent record. They should have been 4 nil up at half time.
We sit so deep,we have no out ball because of this except a big hoof up to Vardy who has 2 defenders on all the time and no support. time and time again we did that yesterday, something needs to change because in varying degrees its the same every week its not just a one off i'm afraid.
Quite happy with the point, which we got playing badly according to the comments above (I didn't hear or see the match). That's a good result if not performance. Reading between the lines I think I'd be more worried if I were a Bournemouth fan that they couldn't score against us.
As for Shakey, he'll be under extra pressure due to his lack of managerial experience - the next few games are I feel going to be critical for him. Do well and we'll climb the table. Do badly and we'll drop into the relegation zone where his job will be at risk. I do have some sympathy for him as the incompetence of others has led to us being left short in midfield but it's a problem he needs to solve, it'd be no different to Silva being injured.
I absolutely do not want him to fail, but remain to have doubts about his ability in this job - if he isn't up to it then a change should be made, the sooner the better. Ancelotti is now out there in addition to Pearson.
It has to be the players.
Midfield allow opposition way too much space and our full-backs don't challenge, just shadow their player.
Let's get the ball back pronto and let them worry about us instead of Kasper being in the firing line way too often.
Surely it's common sense?
The 30 minutes worth of highlights on Sky showed one-way traffic towards the Leicester goal, and, as mentioned above, they were sitting far too deeply. It was difficult to get out of their own half.
I can’t quite work out why Shakey declared he was “disappointed we (City) didn’t get something out of this”. Perhaps he was referring to a 6-goal hammering.
As for Eddie Howe, whether or not this was a penalty early on, and it did appear there was some intent on the part of Simpson to deviate the course of the ball, if the referee is well behind play and the lino is on the far side, you simply can’t give it if you clearly didn’t see it.
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posted on 30/9/17
comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 1 minute ago
You're right Foxello, there are far too many fans who seem to want Shakey to fail, shame they're wasting their breath.
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I don't think anyone *wants* Shakespeare to fail. But I can't imagine there are many who genuinely, in their heart of hearts, believe he'll last the season. Maybe not even yourself...
posted on 30/9/17
Who wants Shakey to fail if he fails we fail. Theres a balance between the two. CR went and he won the impossible. A promoted assistant manager who's new to Managment and who does not have his fall team avaliable gets my sympathy but not for having a premiership winning team who cant even pass to each other. Midfield is light weight but his job is to use his existing players to play to there best level and thats not happening.
The excuse of the top six teams now after the last two games does not work anymore
posted on 30/9/17
Shakey failing doesn't mean relegation, just look at CR and how well him leaving worked.
I do honestly believe their are plenty of fans who want him gone, for that to happen he has to fail!
Shame they'll be disappointed.
posted on 30/9/17
I think Shakey will come good. I feel it in my heart and head. He's the man.
posted on 30/9/17
Only watched the first half due to other commitments but that first half was woeful, Ranieri's 2nd season woeful. Glad we managed a point atleast.
posted on 30/9/17
Perhaps the players have got wind of the fact Nigel Pearson is waiting on the wings to swoop in and save the day if things go sour.
posted on 30/9/17
For the first time today I thought Shakespeare probably isn't the answer. The jury's been out and to a degree still is, but I don't think the players understand what they're supposed to be doing out there. It wasn't exactly a team full of newbies out there today; aside from Maguire all the starters were here last season. Yet time and time again Matt Elliott was trying to work out our tactics or pointing out all the holes in them. If the energy, effort and togetherness isn't there, what exactly does Shakespeare bring?
I'd like to see him get 10-12 games but it's hard to see how things can come good based on that.
posted on 30/9/17
Yet the tactics were the same we always play, 4411 and the roles the same as exactly what we do every week?
Gray for Mahrez was the only change and he filled the Mahrez role very well, doing little and not coming back much.
Just one of those days where we played below par but got a result, if Oki hadn't of fluffed his lines it would have been the perfect smash and grab.
posted on 30/9/17
But it wouldn't have been a perfect smash and grab. Bournemouth should have scored several.
posted on 30/9/17
They didn't though, in fact they only had the very early chance where Defoe hit the bar which should have been a goal given his quality.
Had Oki of scored it would have been perfect considering their possession in our half.
A point away to Bournemouth is still a reasonable result even considering the way we played, or because of the way we played.
posted on 30/9/17
Gray can have no complaints when he's dropped again now.
3-5-2 with Iborra, Ndidi and Mahrez behind Ian and Vardy please.
posted on 30/9/17
Oh the doom and gloom.
We didnt beat Bournemouth away ( just as we didnt when we won the league), we didnt beat Huddersfield away.
Shame on us, we should be beating these teams.
Im studying the champinship teams , ready for next season, if we can,t beat these teams we are relegation certs.
Judging by the doom and gloom on this board, I was one of the lucky ones I didnt watch it or listen to it on RL. Watched Gillette soccer Saturday and Kammy was doing our game. It was the first time Ive seen him do one and not once say ' unbelievable Jeff ' Even he was somewhat subdued. I,ll have to watch it on motd, thats if I stay awake, its bound to be on last
Shakespear out. Lets panic. theres loads of good managers out there, Arry, FDB, Paulo Sousa and Peter Taylor is back on the scene (hint of sarcasm)
Can we stay up with 31 more 0-0 draws
UTF
posted on 30/9/17
I don't expect to be beating them. I do expect to be competing with them with players looking something other than lost on the pitch and like they have a plan. If Bournemouth had any confidence up front they would have been out of sight today.
posted on 30/9/17
comment by Legless Fox (U21476)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
Oh the doom and gloom.
We didnt beat Bournemouth away ( just as we didnt when we won the league), we didnt beat Huddersfield away.
Shame on us, we should be beating these teams.
Im studying the champinship teams , ready for next season, if we can,t beat these teams we are relegation certs.
Judging by the doom and gloom on this board, I was one of the lucky ones I didnt watch it or listen to it on RL. Watched Gillette soccer Saturday and Kammy was doing our game. It was the first time Ive seen him do one and not once say ' unbelievable Jeff ' Even he was somewhat subdued. I,ll have to watch it on motd, thats if I stay awake, its bound to be on last
Shakespear out. Lets panic. theres loads of good managers out there, Arry, FDB, Paulo Sousa and Peter Taylor is back on the scene (hint of sarcasm)
Can we stay up with 31 more 0-0 draws
UTF
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Trust me... if you had watched the full 90 mins you wouldn't be so jovial about it.... it was truly shocking and I'm not over egging it
Had no game plan. Time after time after time give the ball away. Was Lule watching a team of strangers play together. Bournemouth played superbly. Style and quality in the ball. Could have lost that 6 or 7 nil. But the one plus we were resilient and some how got a point. God it was dire though. Don't bother with MOTD.
posted on 30/9/17
Dunge
I,ll pinch TBs earlier comment.' But they didnt though '
UTF
posted on 30/9/17
It's more the law of averages that I'm concerned about than this single result, which isn't bad.
posted on 30/9/17
Having a convo with me ma who was at the game, she was saying it looked very worrying and worse than anything we saw last year.
Let's hope this is a one off and not the start of the rot!
posted on 30/9/17
Bad day at the office, nothing more.
posted on 30/9/17
Like the bad days at the office against Huddersfield and Liverpool? The Huddersfield game I was willing to put down to a one off, but the same happened today and with the same problems we saw against Liverpool: The pressing is as aimless as the passing. It's screaming out lack of management.
posted on 30/9/17
First half against Huddersfield was woeful but like today we improved second half.
The issue is both then and today we struggle when teams like that play a high intensity pressing game on us, anyone can see we don't like it and currently don't have the players to fight fire with fire BUT we had exactly the same problem the year we won the League and we still haven't found an answer to it apart from going on to win the League.
Not sure why you mention Liverpool, 4 teams we've payed so far are way ahead of us in playing quality, Liverpool being one of them and yet we gave all 4 a game and should have got a point out of Liverpool, Arsenal and possibly Chelsea.
Midfield is a key component of any team and we've been handicapped all season so far by injuries and incompetence, once that's finally sorted and yes that might Xmas we'll know more where we are.
Personally I'd go 352 but then I've been saying that for the last two seasons.
posted on 1/10/17
comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 4 hours, 13 minutes ago
Bad day at the office, nothing more.
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posted on 1/10/17
i watched the whole game and i'm with Miami it was awful we were totally out played by a team with an equally back recent record. They should have been 4 nil up at half time.
We sit so deep,we have no out ball because of this except a big hoof up to Vardy who has 2 defenders on all the time and no support. time and time again we did that yesterday, something needs to change because in varying degrees its the same every week its not just a one off i'm afraid.
posted on 1/10/17
Quite happy with the point, which we got playing badly according to the comments above (I didn't hear or see the match). That's a good result if not performance. Reading between the lines I think I'd be more worried if I were a Bournemouth fan that they couldn't score against us.
As for Shakey, he'll be under extra pressure due to his lack of managerial experience - the next few games are I feel going to be critical for him. Do well and we'll climb the table. Do badly and we'll drop into the relegation zone where his job will be at risk. I do have some sympathy for him as the incompetence of others has led to us being left short in midfield but it's a problem he needs to solve, it'd be no different to Silva being injured.
I absolutely do not want him to fail, but remain to have doubts about his ability in this job - if he isn't up to it then a change should be made, the sooner the better. Ancelotti is now out there in addition to Pearson.
posted on 1/10/17
It has to be the players.
Midfield allow opposition way too much space and our full-backs don't challenge, just shadow their player.
Let's get the ball back pronto and let them worry about us instead of Kasper being in the firing line way too often.
Surely it's common sense?
posted on 1/10/17
The 30 minutes worth of highlights on Sky showed one-way traffic towards the Leicester goal, and, as mentioned above, they were sitting far too deeply. It was difficult to get out of their own half.
I can’t quite work out why Shakey declared he was “disappointed we (City) didn’t get something out of this”. Perhaps he was referring to a 6-goal hammering.
As for Eddie Howe, whether or not this was a penalty early on, and it did appear there was some intent on the part of Simpson to deviate the course of the ball, if the referee is well behind play and the lino is on the far side, you simply can’t give it if you clearly didn’t see it.
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