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posted on 27/2/22

comment by The goat did it (U10408)
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comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 12 minutes ago
Germany, last federal election (2021)

AfD - 10.3% vote share, 94 seats

France (2017)

National Front - 13.2% (first round), 8 seats

Netherlands (2021)

PVV - 10.8%, 17 seats

Austria (2019)

FPO - 16.2%, 31 seats

Ukraine (2019)

Svoboda - 2.1%, one seat

Other parties in Ukraine

SN (liberal, centrist) - 43.2%, 254 seats
OPZZh (centrist, Eurosceptic) - 13.1%, 43 seats
Batkivshchyna (social democratic, populist) - 8.2%, 26 seats
YeS (centre right) - 8.1%, 25 seats
Holos (liberal, centre right) - 5.8%, 20 seats
Opposition Bloc (centrist, Russophile) - 3%, 6 seats

Ukraine is not a country tempted by the wiles of the far right.
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I don't disagree. But... always a but😂

What do you think Putin means when he says denazification?
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I think it’s an excuse to remove the government, which he’ll argue hasn’t addressed the (non-)issue.

He isn’t talking about ‘de-nazifying’ the military, by the way. He’s talking about de-nazifying and demilitarising the *country*. How would one go about doing that? He’s making tacit references to the Ukrainian govt.

Analysts seem pretty certain at this point that he’s after regime change. Ideally, he’d like a Lukaschenko-type autocrat in charge going forwards, of course. But I don’t see how he might have any chance of getting that to stick given the Ukrainians’ experience of free democratic governance now.

I don’t know if that’s necessarily a *huge* problem for him immediately if his plan *isn’t* to annex Ukraine in wholesale fashion: he can remove the govt, trash the country’s defences, fortify Donbas and any other regions he wants to and thinks he can hold in Russia’s name/those of ‘separatists’, and return home to tell the public that the Ukrainian military threat is pacified, the neo-nazi sympathetic govt has been removed, Ukraine has had fair warning about its future conduct, and Russia has defended separatists against ‘Ukrainian genocide’.

posted on 27/2/22

By the way, if Russia was actually concerned about Ukrainian ‘genocide’ in Donbas this last eight years, it would have let independent (third country or UN) observers into Luhansk and/or Donetsk.

Ukraine has not blocked human rights observers from entering the region since the 2014 conflict. Russia has, and the separatists have.

Why, if your own people are being subject to an active campaign ‘genocide’, would *you* block NGOs or the UN from entering the region to observe?

posted on 27/2/22

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1496072271819165697?t=_VNImdR4kW2HaQw3aG1Czw&s=19

GB News allowing Martin Daubney to blame NATO for an "inevitable" war in Ukraine (this was before the invasion started)

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1497664641966780416?t=ScTKPo_Zr5TSUlj5kmXbrg&s=19

Absolute unhinged conspiracy nonsense from Neil Oliver, hitting all the tropes 'great reset' 'mainstream media' (wtf is GB News if not MSM ffs) and of course 'world economic forum' (IE the NWO)

https://twitter.com/Scarborough_GB/status/1496721285241581570?t=3cos7t-XlXNjGzNuVyihTQ&s=19

GB News presenter Patrick Christys blaming the liberal west for the crimes of authoritarian Russia

https://twitter.com/StopFundingHate/status/1493553441666486278?t=8u94Ail-m9JIbtbM-kdxRQ&s=19

Despite "offering a wide range of views" as tbab might like to think they do they railroad the viewer I to one conclusion or at least only portray one version of viewer feedback... In this case just pro Kremlin propaganda

https://news.sky.com/story/donor-to-brexit-backing-think-tank-in-talks-to-buy-gb-news-stake-12172737

Who funds GB News? Who are Legatum Capital and what links does Christopher Chandler have to the Russian state?

https://www.ft.com/content/143bb08e-4d5d-11e8-97e4-13afc22d86d4

Kind of puts the prorussian opinions on GB News into a different perspective than just "offering all opinions" doesn't it

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Not really, I just seem some vomiting a list of politically loaded links to suit their biases.

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comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
Again not defending (really annoying I nee to type that for some on here), watching some news Putin/separatists oppose the school's no longer being allowed to teach in Russian. 🤷‍♂️
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Another interesting parallel to the north of Ireland where there appears to be opposition to the use of the Irish language in similar settings.

posted on 27/2/22

It is spelled Kiev not Kyiv. We are American and that is how we spell it.
https://twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ/status/1497028524628226060?t=DKM1AwgLamDvtlvV5KmgCQ&s=19

A Republican senator insisting on spelling it the Russian way becuase she's an American patriot 🤔

posted on 27/2/22

I do find it concerning how certain posters have swallowed the “far right nahtzi Ukrainian” line spouted by Putin. Suggests that either there’s a certain gullibility from listening directly to Putin (which seems downright bizarre and not that likely IMO) or they are picking up on it from certain other media channels (far more likely IMO) but unable to discern the biases of said media channels.

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Most likely you and peks.

He filtered me so I doubt he reads my stuff.

posted on 27/2/22

comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 12 seconds ago
It is spelled Kiev not Kyiv. We are American and that is how we spell it.
https://twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ/status/1497028524628226060?t=DKM1AwgLamDvtlvV5KmgCQ&s=19

A Republican senator insisting on spelling it the Russian way becuase she's an American patriot 🤔
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Is it the American way? Growing up it was always Kiev. The pronunciation seems to have changed too. 😂
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Yeah it's always been Kiev to me and I won't be calling it a 'chicken kyiv' when I have my dinner tonight

But they're pointing out why, particularly now Russian wants to take it, calling it the Ukrainian way is more than just polite

Bit like howbwhen talking to a Geordie you shouldnt call it NEW-CAR-STLE

posted on 27/2/22

comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
I do find it concerning how certain posters have swallowed the “far right nahtzi Ukrainian” line spouted by Putin. Suggests that either there’s a certain gullibility from listening directly to Putin (which seems downright bizarre and not that likely IMO) or they are picking up on it from certain other media channels (far more likely IMO) but unable to discern the biases of said media channels.
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Who is that aimed at? It helps.
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Happy to clarify. I’ve seen it from tbbab and from peks before I filtered him.

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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 3 minutes ago
It is spelled Kiev not Kyiv. We are American and that is how we spell it.
https://twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ/status/1497028524628226060?t=DKM1AwgLamDvtlvV5KmgCQ&s=19

A Republican senator insisting on spelling it the Russian way becuase she's an American patriot 🤔
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American ‘patriots’ are the ones who should be ‘de-nazified’ . They are a scary bunch and only getting more influential.

posted on 27/2/22

comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 3 minutes ago
It is spelled Kiev not Kyiv. We are American and that is how we spell it.
https://twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ/status/1497028524628226060?t=DKM1AwgLamDvtlvV5KmgCQ&s=19

A Republican senator insisting on spelling it the Russian way becuase she's an American patriot 🤔
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American ‘patriots’ are the ones who should be ‘de-nazified’ . They are a scary bunch and only getting more influential.
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Nick Fuentes held his America First Conference today. There were several relatively high-profile speakers, including Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Towards the end of the conference, Fuentes slipped up and praised Adolf Hitler.

"I shouldn't have said that" https://t.co/rlDwxc6Uo7

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posted on 27/2/22

comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
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comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
I do find it concerning how certain posters have swallowed the “far right nahtzi Ukrainian” line spouted by Putin. Suggests that either there’s a certain gullibility from listening directly to Putin (which seems downright bizarre and not that likely IMO) or they are picking up on it from certain other media channels (far more likely IMO) but unable to discern the biases of said media channels.
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Who is that aimed at? It helps.
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Happy to clarify. I’ve seen it from tbbab and from peks before I filtered him.
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OK
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👍

posted on 27/2/22

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 3 minutes ago
It is spelled Kiev not Kyiv. We are American and that is how we spell it.
https://twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ/status/1497028524628226060?t=DKM1AwgLamDvtlvV5KmgCQ&s=19

A Republican senator insisting on spelling it the Russian way becuase she's an American patriot 🤔
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American ‘patriots’ are the ones who should be ‘de-nazified’ . They are a scary bunch and only getting more influential.
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Nick Fuentes held his America First Conference today. There were several relatively high-profile speakers, including Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Towards the end of the conference, Fuentes slipped up and praised Adolf Hitler.

"I shouldn't have said that" https://t.co/rlDwxc6Uo7
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I saw that earlier. And posted it! But yeah, America first are naaaazis. And I want bad things to happen to them all.

posted on 27/2/22

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 3 minutes ago
It is spelled Kiev not Kyiv. We are American and that is how we spell it.
https://twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ/status/1497028524628226060?t=DKM1AwgLamDvtlvV5KmgCQ&s=19

A Republican senator insisting on spelling it the Russian way becuase she's an American patriot 🤔
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American ‘patriots’ are the ones who should be ‘de-nazified’ . They are a scary bunch and only getting more influential.
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Nick Fuentes held his America First Conference today. There were several relatively high-profile speakers, including Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Towards the end of the conference, Fuentes slipped up and praised Adolf Hitler.

"I shouldn't have said that" https://t.co/rlDwxc6Uo7
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Did you see the Louis Theroux doc on him and the rest of the America first far right movement? Strongest impression I got was how genuinely pathetic they are, proper pipsqueak intellectually and completely unable to be challenged on their views. Folk like westboro baptist church have courage in their convictions, while these wee boys are just so lame 😂

posted on 27/2/22

Yeah that documentary was nuts, there's a group psychosis there but the way Louis summed up their "ironic" racist statements as a means to hide their real racism perfectly described how nuts it is 🤪

If the rest is weakened, it's by polemicists like that

posted on 27/2/22

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChelseaFC/status/1497868836464476160

Appreciate this may not be the thread for this post, but this from Chelsea is utterly pathetic.

- no mention of Russia
- no condemnation of Russia
- it is not a “situation”, it is an armed invasion
- “praying for peace”? How about praying that the Russian army navy and Air Force feck off back to their own country and stop invading a foreign one?

posted on 27/2/22

comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChelseaFC/status/1497868836464476160

Appreciate this may not be the thread for this post, but this from Chelsea is utterly pathetic.

- no mention of Russia
- no condemnation of Russia
- it is not a “situation”, it is an armed invasion
- “praying for peace”? How about praying that the Russian army navy and Air Force feck off back to their own country and stop invading a foreign one?
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Agreed

Probably felt we had to say something but not go too heavy on Russia due to Roman.

To be fair it’s not really Russia anyway it’s Putin

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