comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 14 seconds ago
Based on the actual statement from the mosque and it's timing

If someone tells you they're coming to your property ahead of time do you:

-Tell them they're not welcome immediately?

-Tell them they're not welcome before they step through the door?

-Tell them they're not welcome once they're inside?

-Tell them they're not welcome as they're leaving?

-Tell them they're weren't welcome three days after they left in a twitter post that's mainly an apology because of backlash?
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Honestly, this presents another mystery to me. Maybe I'm a genius but could you simplify your answer as I can't figure out what point you're trying to make here.

No I've been quite clear about it and you're certainly not a genius

OK.

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 42 minutes ago
"little or no time to disagree"

How long does it take to say no or close the door to him.

Stop being pathetic, there are obvious things to criticise Keir for (condoning collective punishment and telling British Muslims to free the Israeli hostages) but this reaction to the mosque visit is a non story.

This statement has come out because the mosque has faced backlash, it's a response to that and not to him visiting "unannounced"
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Don’t appreciate the rudeness.

Being put out that someone tagging along who you hadn’t planned for has invited themselves isn’t an uncommon reaction; I’d say it is an entirely human one, particularly if you feel that person has misrepresented their visit.

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 14 seconds ago
Based on the actual statement from the mosque and it's timing

If someone tells you they're coming to your property ahead of time do you:

-Tell them they're not welcome immediately?

-Tell them they're not welcome before they step through the door?

-Tell them they're not welcome once they're inside?

-Tell them they're not welcome as they're leaving?

-Tell them they're weren't welcome three days after they left in a twitter post that's mainly an apology because of backlash?
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Honestly, this presents another mystery to me. Maybe I'm a genius but could you simplify your answer as I can't figure out what point you're trying to make here.
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You don’t see the logic here genius?

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted about a minute ago
Wait - starmer told British Muslims to release Israeli hostages?
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Not exactly but his post about the visit to a mosque said he "reiterated the need for Hamas to release the hostages"

He's put that there to placate Muslim haters imo but it's clumsy and offensive
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Good lord that was a bit dumb.

Look I'm not going to die on this hill, the visit was a photo op and his tweet about hostages was offensive imo

What I'm saying is he visited the mosque on Sunday and told them he was coming ahead of time, only now on Wednesday are the mosque saying they didn't want him there

They could have told him to go away before and during but it feel like this statement is a reaction to backlash rather than Keir himself

Paly cats are being left homeless aswell

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1717088607301960162

Robert Jenrick, British Government NOT asking for a ceasefire.

Not in my name you heartless appeasers.

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 14 seconds ago
Based on the actual statement from the mosque and it's timing

If someone tells you they're coming to your property ahead of time do you:

-Tell them they're not welcome immediately?

-Tell them they're not welcome before they step through the door?

-Tell them they're not welcome once they're inside?

-Tell them they're not welcome as they're leaving?

-Tell them they're weren't welcome three days after they left in a twitter post that's mainly an apology because of backlash?
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Honestly, this presents another mystery to me. Maybe I'm a genius but could you simplify your answer as I can't figure out what point you're trying to make here.
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You don’t see the logic here genius?
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Perhaps there isn't any. So what is the logic?

They could have told him to go away before and during but it feel like this statement is a reaction to backlash rather than Keir himself
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Doesn't really work like that, does it?

Keir posted the pic late on the 22nd, with follow ups on 23rd lunchtime. Note that he didn’t actually tag anyone in the thread. The statement from the Mosque came on the 24th. Thus the “3 days later narrative” is a bit disingenuous given the statement was about not just the “late notice” but also the misrepresentstion. I don’t think that’s a hugely unreasonable timeline for a response to Keir’s misrepresentation.

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 17 seconds ago
Israeli and U.S. intelligence officials believe that a projectile captured on videos shortly before the Ahli Arab Hospital explosion was a Palestinian rocket.
@nytimes Visual Investigations found that this object was launched from Israel, and likely unrelated to the deadly blast.

https://x.com/arictoler/status/1717015483843576248?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
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But but but...
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Can’t be true, anonymous EU ‘experts’ said it was a Hamas missile

I'm not a huge fan of politicians visiting places unless it is without any press or media. It just makes me cringe a bit.

Hospitals, food banks, mosques, churches, youth groups etc etc. If the intent is photo op, I just don't care for it.

comment by Peks (U6618)
posted 25 minutes ago
Paly cats are being left homeless aswell

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1717088607301960162
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Obviously terrorist cats sponsored by Iran

What Coogan said is exactly what I've been saying on here for 3 years.

Glad folk are finally working out what a duplicitous con man Starmer is and all sincere apologies from those who doubted me will be graciously accepted.

Not as duplicitous as the PM though

comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 6 minutes ago
Keir posted the pic late on the 22nd, with follow ups on 23rd lunchtime. Note that he didn’t actually tag anyone in the thread. The statement from the Mosque came on the 24th. Thus the “3 days later narrative” is a bit disingenuous given the statement was about not just the “late notice” but also the misrepresentstion. I don’t think that’s a hugely unreasonable timeline for a response to Keir’s misrepresentation.
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I've not said they're unreasonable, I just think the timing of the statement suggests they're responding to the backlash which they themselves mention

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
What Coogan said is exactly what I've been saying on here for 3 years.

Glad folk are finally working out what a duplicitous con man Starmer is and all sincere apologies from those who doubted me will be graciously accepted.
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Given the fact you’re a Tory you have absolutely no moral standpoint on this issue, so shut the fack up you dopey midget

comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm not a huge fan of politicians visiting places unless it is without any press or media. It just makes me cringe a bit.

Hospitals, food banks, mosques, churches, youth groups etc etc. If the intent is photo op, I just don't care for it.
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 6 minutes ago
Keir posted the pic late on the 22nd, with follow ups on 23rd lunchtime. Note that he didn’t actually tag anyone in the thread. The statement from the Mosque came on the 24th. Thus the “3 days later narrative” is a bit disingenuous given the statement was about not just the “late notice” but also the misrepresentstion. I don’t think that’s a hugely unreasonable timeline for a response to Keir’s misrepresentation.
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I've not said they're unreasonable, I just think the timing of the statement suggests they're responding to the backlash which they themselves mention
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Still wouldn't mean what they're saying isn't true. Perhaps they were just gonna let it slide but Starmer had to open his big mouth and cause the backlash?

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 6 minutes ago
Keir posted the pic late on the 22nd, with follow ups on 23rd lunchtime. Note that he didn’t actually tag anyone in the thread. The statement from the Mosque came on the 24th. Thus the “3 days later narrative” is a bit disingenuous given the statement was about not just the “late notice” but also the misrepresentstion. I don’t think that’s a hugely unreasonable timeline for a response to Keir’s misrepresentation.
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I've not said they're unreasonable, I just think the timing of the statement suggests they're responding to the backlash which they themselves mention
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Still wouldn't mean what they're saying isn't true. Perhaps they were just gonna let it slide but Starmer had to open his big mouth and cause the backlash?
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This is what he said

"I was grateful to hear from the Muslim community of the South Wales Islamic Centre.

I repeated our calls for all hostages to be released, more humanitarian aid to enter Gaza, for the water and power to be switched back on, and a renewed focus on the two state solution.

I was questioned by members and I was deeply moved to hear their pain and horror at the suffering of civilians in Gaza.

I made clear it is not and has never been my view that Israel had the right to cut off water, food, fuel or medicines. International law must be followed.

That’s why we urgently need more aid and utilities to get in to Gaza.

We know this is not a new crisis. There has been a failure of international politics for decades. We don’t want to see any further loss of innocent life, Israeli or Palestinian."

What a horrible b*stard

comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
What Coogan said is exactly what I've been saying on here for 3 years.

Glad folk are finally working out what a duplicitous con man Starmer is and all sincere apologies from those who doubted me will be graciously accepted.
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Given the fact you’re a Tory you have absolutely no moral standpoint on this issue, so shut the fack up you dopey midget
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Here he is.

What a bitter angry little keyboard warrior you are. Do you ever do any work?

I don't really see how Starmer misrepresented the meeting to be honest.

It's a bit crap if he seemingly turned up unannounced, but all he did was mention what he personally spoke about. It's not like he said everyone there praised him and loved his answers.

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
What Coogan said is exactly what I've been saying on here for 3 years.

Glad folk are finally working out what a duplicitous con man Starmer is and all sincere apologies from those who doubted me will be graciously accepted.
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Given the fact you’re a Tory you have absolutely no moral standpoint on this issue, so shut the fack up you dopey midget
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Here he is.

What a bitter angry little keyboard warrior you are. Do you ever do any work?
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Yes, to fund the benefits lifestyle of fat wasters like you that are a drain on our society.