comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 minutes ago
Be interested to know if anyone on here has had their day or their property ruined by any of these “warriors”
Or is it fine if they deface or destroy someone else’s property or put other lives at risk?
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5 years jail for peaceful protest, that's not justice that's spite.
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Peaceful protest😆🤣😆🤣😆😂
Yes if it deprived people of hospital appointments or prevented people getting to work.
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Well it does, all the time, and you don’t give a sh!t.
JSO have targeted transport in cars and planes. Two massive contributors to our use of oil, and yeah, it’s sh!t that some people miss some appointments and are late for work. That’s all it is though, they don’t stop blue lights and it pales into insignificance the damage that we’re doing to the Earth but also ourselves and our health.
But isn’t that part of the point? Do we all need individual transport? Do we NEED such convenience. We’d have a lot less crashes, which kills people and causes unpredictable traffic jams EVERY day.
If all it takes is 20 cucumber sandal wearing hippies to bring things to a halt we need a rethink anyway I reckon.
And here we all are, talking about it and I bet that it’s crossed your mind that we should be more green friendly as a society, so it’s working.
The worlds on fire and we’re all going to die, instead of thinking small (and about yourself being a bit late), think big I reckon.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
Why didn't the people kicking off about JSO stopping traffic also kick off about the farmers doing the same several times this year?
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They didn’t go around trying to destroy works of art or people’s property. The public are generally supportive of the grim reality for farmers these days. These other clowns have lost the mainstream public confidence.
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This is specifically about stopping traffic though. Making people late for appointments etc.
No one complains when farmers to it. So is it OK for groups you agree with to do it, but not those you don't like for other reasons?
As an ardent Brexiter, what's your opinion on this go slow protest by leavers? Should they have faced prison time rather than being fined, or were they OK to do what they did?
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It wasn’t as simple as stopping traffic though.
And I’m not or wasn’t an ardent Brexiter. What that has to do with this is anyone’s guess however.
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You were one of the biggest Leavers on here.
It is that simple. They were charged under conspiracy to cause public nuisance and they judge handed down a sentence based on it being direct action against national infrastructure. Most of the arguments against JSO have been about the road blockages inconveniencing the general public and potentially stopping people making hospital appointments.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
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This is true
It’s a disgraceful piece of legislation, and needs to be repealed asap, even if it would be politically advantageous for Labour to keep.
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 #BringBackMourinho #ComeHomeGaffa (U12980)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Just wish people would be honest about it and admit they don’t give a fvck about the Earth if it means some inconvenience. Sports events? Fine we like those. Concerts? Fine too, we like those. Street Carnivals? Awesome, they’re great fun. Festivals like Glastonbury? Great fun too.
Bunch of yogurt weavers risking their liberty to try and pressure decision makers into more drastic change to ensure the future of our children?
ABSOLUTELY NOT. I’VE GOT TO GET TO A RESTAURANT
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Do they hold cancer clinics in the restaurants you go to?
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So you’re all for banning sporting events, concerts and anything that causes a traffic jam?
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Yes if it deprived people of hospital appointments or prevented people getting to work.
Luckily, sports events aren't usually scheduled to start during the morning rush hour and they're usually advertised well in advance so people can avoid heavy traffic.
Maybe it's different in Nottingham and Premier League games kick off at 8:00am on a Thursday morning, with fans only given half an hours notice.
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Not every medicle emergency conveniuntly avoids when rofes r closed 4 events
We shud their4 ban anythin that cause closure ore congiestion in case sbody need too get sumware tootsweet
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Yawn why do you left liberal wokie mugs always try to defend the undefendable
JSO are a bunch of khunts accept it and move on
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So u r all 4 rodes bein block 4 events even if it cause perpul 2 mot get 2 hospital/airport/work on time unless the rodes r block bye peeple tryin too save the enviroment?
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
Why didn't the people kicking off about JSO stopping traffic also kick off about the farmers doing the same several times this year?
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They didn’t go around trying to destroy works of art or people’s property. The public are generally supportive of the grim reality for farmers these days. These other clowns have lost the mainstream public confidence.
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This is specifically about stopping traffic though. Making people late for appointments etc.
No one complains when farmers to it. So is it OK for groups you agree with to do it, but not those you don't like for other reasons?
As an ardent Brexiter, what's your opinion on this go slow protest by leavers? Should they have faced prison time rather than being fined, or were they OK to do what they did?
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It wasn’t as simple as stopping traffic though.
And I’m not or wasn’t an ardent Brexiter. What that has to do with this is anyone’s guess however.
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You were one of the biggest Leavers on here.
It is that simple. They were charged under conspiracy to cause public nuisance and they judge handed down a sentence based on it being direct action against national infrastructure. Most of the arguments against JSO have been about the road blockages inconveniencing the general public and potentially stopping people making hospital appointments.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
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Again, what on earth does my thoughts on Brexit have to do with this? I’m genuinely baffled. My guess is it’s nothing. As for being one of the biggest believers on here, just me having been supportive of Brexit at the time on this thread would probably have put me in a group of one, so it’s hardly an “accolade” to be the biggest.
Farmers didn’t continually disrupt infrastructure anywhere near the level that this group have. If they did, I’d want the same treatment handed down.
They’ve broken the law continuously and with scant regard to it. If you feel they have been harshly treated so be it. No point in arguing about it further.
I had to travel to below Gloucester last year at the same time as Glastonbury. It took an extra three hours and they continuously disrupt infrastructure for days at a time every year.
When will the police act?
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I had to travel to below Gloucester last year at the same time as Glastonbury. It took an extra three hours and they continuously disrupt infrastructure for days at a time every year.
When will the police act?
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What?
Every year Glastonbury causes crippling tail backs and continuously disrupts infrastructure. It adds hours to journeys for people who have nothing to do with it.
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules... (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
I had to travel to below Gloucester last year at the same time as Glastonbury. It took an extra three hours and they continuously disrupt infrastructure for days at a time every year.
When will the police act?
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Had they omitted to advertise Glastonbury last year?
Was there no alternative route to your destination, just the M666 from Nottingham to Somerset?
Did those selfish festival goers block the train lines?
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
Why didn't the people kicking off about JSO stopping traffic also kick off about the farmers doing the same several times this year?
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They didn’t go around trying to destroy works of art or people’s property. The public are generally supportive of the grim reality for farmers these days. These other clowns have lost the mainstream public confidence.
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This is specifically about stopping traffic though. Making people late for appointments etc.
No one complains when farmers to it. So is it OK for groups you agree with to do it, but not those you don't like for other reasons?
As an ardent Brexiter, what's your opinion on this go slow protest by leavers? Should they have faced prison time rather than being fined, or were they OK to do what they did?
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It wasn’t as simple as stopping traffic though.
And I’m not or wasn’t an ardent Brexiter. What that has to do with this is anyone’s guess however.
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You were one of the biggest Leavers on here.
It is that simple. They were charged under conspiracy to cause public nuisance and they judge handed down a sentence based on it being direct action against national infrastructure. Most of the arguments against JSO have been about the road blockages inconveniencing the general public and potentially stopping people making hospital appointments.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
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Again, what on earth does my thoughts on Brexit have to do with this? I’m genuinely baffled. My guess is it’s nothing. As for being one of the biggest believers on here, just me having been supportive of Brexit at the time on this thread would probably have put me in a group of one, so it’s hardly an “accolade” to be the biggest.
Farmers didn’t continually disrupt infrastructure anywhere near the level that this group have. If they did, I’d want the same treatment handed down.
They’ve broken the law continuously and with scant regard to it. If you feel they have been harshly treated so be it. No point in arguing about it further.
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I'm not sure how I can make it more clear for you. Maybe try caveman? You being leave mean you think Brexit protest good. Impact not important. Only cause.
Farmers have repeatedly done it this year. It isn't a one off.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/feb/10/uk-farmers-vow-to-mount-more-blockades-over-cheap-post-brexit-imports-and-supermarket-prices
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c720x5d18eno
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/25/tractors-london-farmers-protest/
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules... (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
Every year Glastonbury causes crippling tail backs and continuously disrupts infrastructure. It adds hours to journeys for people who have nothing to do with it.
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No; I understand what you’re saying all right.
I live in Somerset, farmers have blockaded roads around here several times this year.
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
Why didn't the people kicking off about JSO stopping traffic also kick off about the farmers doing the same several times this year?
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They didn’t go around trying to destroy works of art or people’s property. The public are generally supportive of the grim reality for farmers these days. These other clowns have lost the mainstream public confidence.
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This is specifically about stopping traffic though. Making people late for appointments etc.
No one complains when farmers to it. So is it OK for groups you agree with to do it, but not those you don't like for other reasons?
As an ardent Brexiter, what's your opinion on this go slow protest by leavers? Should they have faced prison time rather than being fined, or were they OK to do what they did?
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It wasn’t as simple as stopping traffic though.
And I’m not or wasn’t an ardent Brexiter. What that has to do with this is anyone’s guess however.
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You were one of the biggest Leavers on here.
It is that simple. They were charged under conspiracy to cause public nuisance and they judge handed down a sentence based on it being direct action against national infrastructure. Most of the arguments against JSO have been about the road blockages inconveniencing the general public and potentially stopping people making hospital appointments.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
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Again, what on earth does my thoughts on Brexit have to do with this? I’m genuinely baffled. My guess is it’s nothing. As for being one of the biggest believers on here, just me having been supportive of Brexit at the time on this thread would probably have put me in a group of one, so it’s hardly an “accolade” to be the biggest.
Farmers didn’t continually disrupt infrastructure anywhere near the level that this group have. If they did, I’d want the same treatment handed down.
They’ve broken the law continuously and with scant regard to it. If you feel they have been harshly treated so be it. No point in arguing about it further.
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I'm not sure how I can make it more clear for you. Maybe try caveman? You being leave mean you think Brexit protest good. Impact not important. Only cause.
Farmers have repeatedly done it this year. It isn't a one off.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/feb/10/uk-farmers-vow-to-mount-more-blockades-over-cheap-post-brexit-imports-and-supermarket-prices
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c720x5d18eno
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/25/tractors-london-farmers-protest/
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These protests are nothing to do with Brexit for goodness sake. If that’s what you’re trying to imply.
If it’s not; I’m lost
Do you? Because it seems you pick and choose what disruption to infrastructure is acceptable or not. Not only that, you’re fully behind a draconian right wing law that jails people for peaceful protest.
That’s your choice of course.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
Why didn't the people kicking off about JSO stopping traffic also kick off about the farmers doing the same several times this year?
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They didn’t go around trying to destroy works of art or people’s property. The public are generally supportive of the grim reality for farmers these days. These other clowns have lost the mainstream public confidence.
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This is specifically about stopping traffic though. Making people late for appointments etc.
No one complains when farmers to it. So is it OK for groups you agree with to do it, but not those you don't like for other reasons?
As an ardent Brexiter, what's your opinion on this go slow protest by leavers? Should they have faced prison time rather than being fined, or were they OK to do what they did?
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It wasn’t as simple as stopping traffic though.
And I’m not or wasn’t an ardent Brexiter. What that has to do with this is anyone’s guess however.
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You were one of the biggest Leavers on here.
It is that simple. They were charged under conspiracy to cause public nuisance and they judge handed down a sentence based on it being direct action against national infrastructure. Most of the arguments against JSO have been about the road blockages inconveniencing the general public and potentially stopping people making hospital appointments.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
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Again, what on earth does my thoughts on Brexit have to do with this? I’m genuinely baffled. My guess is it’s nothing. As for being one of the biggest believers on here, just me having been supportive of Brexit at the time on this thread would probably have put me in a group of one, so it’s hardly an “accolade” to be the biggest.
Farmers didn’t continually disrupt infrastructure anywhere near the level that this group have. If they did, I’d want the same treatment handed down.
They’ve broken the law continuously and with scant regard to it. If you feel they have been harshly treated so be it. No point in arguing about it further.
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I'm not sure how I can make it more clear for you. Maybe try caveman? You being leave mean you think Brexit protest good. Impact not important. Only cause.
Farmers have repeatedly done it this year. It isn't a one off.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/feb/10/uk-farmers-vow-to-mount-more-blockades-over-cheap-post-brexit-imports-and-supermarket-prices
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c720x5d18eno
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/25/tractors-london-farmers-protest/
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These protests are nothing to do with Brexit for goodness sake. If that’s what you’re trying to imply.
If it’s not; I’m lost
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No put the Brexit ones where they stopped traffic I posted about as an example in this very thread of comments did. You being a Brexiter was used as an example of how people will make allowances for causes they agree with.
Surely you can't be as dense as you're pretending to be here.
I try and distinguish between peaceful and non peaceful protests. That is true.
And don’t try your best to paint me as some draconian right winger. That’s just simply ridiculous.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
I try and distinguish between peaceful and non peaceful protests. That is true.
And don’t try your best to paint me as some draconian right winger. That’s just simply ridiculous.
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I've not called you a right winger once.
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
Why didn't the people kicking off about JSO stopping traffic also kick off about the farmers doing the same several times this year?
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They didn’t go around trying to destroy works of art or people’s property. The public are generally supportive of the grim reality for farmers these days. These other clowns have lost the mainstream public confidence.
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This is specifically about stopping traffic though. Making people late for appointments etc.
No one complains when farmers to it. So is it OK for groups you agree with to do it, but not those you don't like for other reasons?
As an ardent Brexiter, what's your opinion on this go slow protest by leavers? Should they have faced prison time rather than being fined, or were they OK to do what they did?
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It wasn’t as simple as stopping traffic though.
And I’m not or wasn’t an ardent Brexiter. What that has to do with this is anyone’s guess however.
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You were one of the biggest Leavers on here.
It is that simple. They were charged under conspiracy to cause public nuisance and they judge handed down a sentence based on it being direct action against national infrastructure. Most of the arguments against JSO have been about the road blockages inconveniencing the general public and potentially stopping people making hospital appointments.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
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Again, what on earth does my thoughts on Brexit have to do with this? I’m genuinely baffled. My guess is it’s nothing. As for being one of the biggest believers on here, just me having been supportive of Brexit at the time on this thread would probably have put me in a group of one, so it’s hardly an “accolade” to be the biggest.
Farmers didn’t continually disrupt infrastructure anywhere near the level that this group have. If they did, I’d want the same treatment handed down.
They’ve broken the law continuously and with scant regard to it. If you feel they have been harshly treated so be it. No point in arguing about it further.
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I'm not sure how I can make it more clear for you. Maybe try caveman? You being leave mean you think Brexit protest good. Impact not important. Only cause.
Farmers have repeatedly done it this year. It isn't a one off.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/feb/10/uk-farmers-vow-to-mount-more-blockades-over-cheap-post-brexit-imports-and-supermarket-prices
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c720x5d18eno
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/25/tractors-london-farmers-protest/
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These protests are nothing to do with Brexit for goodness sake. If that’s what you’re trying to imply.
If it’s not; I’m lost
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No put the Brexit ones where they stopped traffic I posted about as an example in this very thread of comments did. You being a Brexiter was used as an example of how people will make allowances for causes they agree with.
Surely you can't be as dense as you're pretending to be here.
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I’ll ignore that last bit of that’s ok. Surely you don’t expect a response to that.
No; I don’t choose to pick and choose what suits me. These protest la for some time have been viewed as not being peaceful by the law. Not my decision. They’ve continually ignored it. What do you think they genuinely expected would happen?
I've literally just put examples of protests that have exactly the same effect as the JSO one that people have just been convicted for.
Every single person who criticised JSO for reasons of stopping traffic has refused
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
I try and distinguish between peaceful and non peaceful protests. That is true.
And don’t try your best to paint me as some draconian right winger. That’s just simply ridiculous.
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I've not called you a right winger once.
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I never said you did. I said don’t try and paint me as one.
This is getting silly now
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
I've literally just put examples of protests that have exactly the same effect as the JSO one that people have just been convicted for.
Every single person who criticised JSO for reasons of stopping traffic has refused
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They’ve been deemed by the law as being peaceful. Again that’s not my decision.
What could be more peaceful than trying to deface a priceless piece of art?
I believe the Dalai Lama recommends it.
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
Why didn't the people kicking off about JSO stopping traffic also kick off about the farmers doing the same several times this year?
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They didn’t go around trying to destroy works of art or people’s property. The public are generally supportive of the grim reality for farmers these days. These other clowns have lost the mainstream public confidence.
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This is specifically about stopping traffic though. Making people late for appointments etc.
No one complains when farmers to it. So is it OK for groups you agree with to do it, but not those you don't like for other reasons?
As an ardent Brexiter, what's your opinion on this go slow protest by leavers? Should they have faced prison time rather than being fined, or were they OK to do what they did?
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It wasn’t as simple as stopping traffic though.
And I’m not or wasn’t an ardent Brexiter. What that has to do with this is anyone’s guess however.
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You were one of the biggest Leavers on here.
It is that simple. They were charged under conspiracy to cause public nuisance and they judge handed down a sentence based on it being direct action against national infrastructure. Most of the arguments against JSO have been about the road blockages inconveniencing the general public and potentially stopping people making hospital appointments.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
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Again, what on earth does my thoughts on Brexit have to do with this? I’m genuinely baffled. My guess is it’s nothing. As for being one of the biggest believers on here, just me having been supportive of Brexit at the time on this thread would probably have put me in a group of one, so it’s hardly an “accolade” to be the biggest.
Farmers didn’t continually disrupt infrastructure anywhere near the level that this group have. If they did, I’d want the same treatment handed down.
They’ve broken the law continuously and with scant regard to it. If you feel they have been harshly treated so be it. No point in arguing about it further.
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I'm not sure how I can make it more clear for you. Maybe try caveman? You being leave mean you think Brexit protest good. Impact not important. Only cause.
Farmers have repeatedly done it this year. It isn't a one off.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/feb/10/uk-farmers-vow-to-mount-more-blockades-over-cheap-post-brexit-imports-and-supermarket-prices
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c720x5d18eno
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/25/tractors-london-farmers-protest/
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These protests are nothing to do with Brexit for goodness sake. If that’s what you’re trying to imply.
If it’s not; I’m lost
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No put the Brexit ones where they stopped traffic I posted about as an example in this very thread of comments did. You being a Brexiter was used as an example of how people will make allowances for causes they agree with.
Surely you can't be as dense as you're pretending to be here.
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I’ll ignore that last bit of that’s ok. Surely you don’t expect a response to that.
No; I don’t choose to pick and choose what suits me. These protest la for some time have been viewed as not being peaceful by the law. Not my decision. They’ve continually ignored it. What do you think they genuinely expected would happen?
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The individuals have only been trialled for that one incident. It isn't an accumulation thing.
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posted on 18/7/24
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 minutes ago
Be interested to know if anyone on here has had their day or their property ruined by any of these “warriors”
Or is it fine if they deface or destroy someone else’s property or put other lives at risk?
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5 years jail for peaceful protest, that's not justice that's spite.
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Peaceful protest😆🤣😆🤣😆😂
posted on 18/7/24
Yes if it deprived people of hospital appointments or prevented people getting to work.
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Well it does, all the time, and you don’t give a sh!t.
JSO have targeted transport in cars and planes. Two massive contributors to our use of oil, and yeah, it’s sh!t that some people miss some appointments and are late for work. That’s all it is though, they don’t stop blue lights and it pales into insignificance the damage that we’re doing to the Earth but also ourselves and our health.
But isn’t that part of the point? Do we all need individual transport? Do we NEED such convenience. We’d have a lot less crashes, which kills people and causes unpredictable traffic jams EVERY day.
If all it takes is 20 cucumber sandal wearing hippies to bring things to a halt we need a rethink anyway I reckon.
And here we all are, talking about it and I bet that it’s crossed your mind that we should be more green friendly as a society, so it’s working.
The worlds on fire and we’re all going to die, instead of thinking small (and about yourself being a bit late), think big I reckon.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
Why didn't the people kicking off about JSO stopping traffic also kick off about the farmers doing the same several times this year?
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They didn’t go around trying to destroy works of art or people’s property. The public are generally supportive of the grim reality for farmers these days. These other clowns have lost the mainstream public confidence.
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This is specifically about stopping traffic though. Making people late for appointments etc.
No one complains when farmers to it. So is it OK for groups you agree with to do it, but not those you don't like for other reasons?
As an ardent Brexiter, what's your opinion on this go slow protest by leavers? Should they have faced prison time rather than being fined, or were they OK to do what they did?
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It wasn’t as simple as stopping traffic though.
And I’m not or wasn’t an ardent Brexiter. What that has to do with this is anyone’s guess however.
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You were one of the biggest Leavers on here.
It is that simple. They were charged under conspiracy to cause public nuisance and they judge handed down a sentence based on it being direct action against national infrastructure. Most of the arguments against JSO have been about the road blockages inconveniencing the general public and potentially stopping people making hospital appointments.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
posted on 18/7/24
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
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This is true
posted on 18/7/24
It’s a disgraceful piece of legislation, and needs to be repealed asap, even if it would be politically advantageous for Labour to keep.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 #BringBackMourinho #ComeHomeGaffa (U12980)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Just wish people would be honest about it and admit they don’t give a fvck about the Earth if it means some inconvenience. Sports events? Fine we like those. Concerts? Fine too, we like those. Street Carnivals? Awesome, they’re great fun. Festivals like Glastonbury? Great fun too.
Bunch of yogurt weavers risking their liberty to try and pressure decision makers into more drastic change to ensure the future of our children?
ABSOLUTELY NOT. I’VE GOT TO GET TO A RESTAURANT
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Do they hold cancer clinics in the restaurants you go to?
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So you’re all for banning sporting events, concerts and anything that causes a traffic jam?
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Yes if it deprived people of hospital appointments or prevented people getting to work.
Luckily, sports events aren't usually scheduled to start during the morning rush hour and they're usually advertised well in advance so people can avoid heavy traffic.
Maybe it's different in Nottingham and Premier League games kick off at 8:00am on a Thursday morning, with fans only given half an hours notice.
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Not every medicle emergency conveniuntly avoids when rofes r closed 4 events
We shud their4 ban anythin that cause closure ore congiestion in case sbody need too get sumware tootsweet
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Yawn why do you left liberal wokie mugs always try to defend the undefendable
JSO are a bunch of khunts accept it and move on
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So u r all 4 rodes bein block 4 events even if it cause perpul 2 mot get 2 hospital/airport/work on time unless the rodes r block bye peeple tryin too save the enviroment?
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
Why didn't the people kicking off about JSO stopping traffic also kick off about the farmers doing the same several times this year?
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They didn’t go around trying to destroy works of art or people’s property. The public are generally supportive of the grim reality for farmers these days. These other clowns have lost the mainstream public confidence.
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This is specifically about stopping traffic though. Making people late for appointments etc.
No one complains when farmers to it. So is it OK for groups you agree with to do it, but not those you don't like for other reasons?
As an ardent Brexiter, what's your opinion on this go slow protest by leavers? Should they have faced prison time rather than being fined, or were they OK to do what they did?
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It wasn’t as simple as stopping traffic though.
And I’m not or wasn’t an ardent Brexiter. What that has to do with this is anyone’s guess however.
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You were one of the biggest Leavers on here.
It is that simple. They were charged under conspiracy to cause public nuisance and they judge handed down a sentence based on it being direct action against national infrastructure. Most of the arguments against JSO have been about the road blockages inconveniencing the general public and potentially stopping people making hospital appointments.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
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Again, what on earth does my thoughts on Brexit have to do with this? I’m genuinely baffled. My guess is it’s nothing. As for being one of the biggest believers on here, just me having been supportive of Brexit at the time on this thread would probably have put me in a group of one, so it’s hardly an “accolade” to be the biggest.
Farmers didn’t continually disrupt infrastructure anywhere near the level that this group have. If they did, I’d want the same treatment handed down.
They’ve broken the law continuously and with scant regard to it. If you feel they have been harshly treated so be it. No point in arguing about it further.
posted on 18/7/24
I had to travel to below Gloucester last year at the same time as Glastonbury. It took an extra three hours and they continuously disrupt infrastructure for days at a time every year.
When will the police act?
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I had to travel to below Gloucester last year at the same time as Glastonbury. It took an extra three hours and they continuously disrupt infrastructure for days at a time every year.
When will the police act?
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What?
posted on 18/7/24
Every year Glastonbury causes crippling tail backs and continuously disrupts infrastructure. It adds hours to journeys for people who have nothing to do with it.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules... (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
I had to travel to below Gloucester last year at the same time as Glastonbury. It took an extra three hours and they continuously disrupt infrastructure for days at a time every year.
When will the police act?
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Had they omitted to advertise Glastonbury last year?
Was there no alternative route to your destination, just the M666 from Nottingham to Somerset?
Did those selfish festival goers block the train lines?
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
Why didn't the people kicking off about JSO stopping traffic also kick off about the farmers doing the same several times this year?
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They didn’t go around trying to destroy works of art or people’s property. The public are generally supportive of the grim reality for farmers these days. These other clowns have lost the mainstream public confidence.
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This is specifically about stopping traffic though. Making people late for appointments etc.
No one complains when farmers to it. So is it OK for groups you agree with to do it, but not those you don't like for other reasons?
As an ardent Brexiter, what's your opinion on this go slow protest by leavers? Should they have faced prison time rather than being fined, or were they OK to do what they did?
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It wasn’t as simple as stopping traffic though.
And I’m not or wasn’t an ardent Brexiter. What that has to do with this is anyone’s guess however.
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You were one of the biggest Leavers on here.
It is that simple. They were charged under conspiracy to cause public nuisance and they judge handed down a sentence based on it being direct action against national infrastructure. Most of the arguments against JSO have been about the road blockages inconveniencing the general public and potentially stopping people making hospital appointments.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
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Again, what on earth does my thoughts on Brexit have to do with this? I’m genuinely baffled. My guess is it’s nothing. As for being one of the biggest believers on here, just me having been supportive of Brexit at the time on this thread would probably have put me in a group of one, so it’s hardly an “accolade” to be the biggest.
Farmers didn’t continually disrupt infrastructure anywhere near the level that this group have. If they did, I’d want the same treatment handed down.
They’ve broken the law continuously and with scant regard to it. If you feel they have been harshly treated so be it. No point in arguing about it further.
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I'm not sure how I can make it more clear for you. Maybe try caveman? You being leave mean you think Brexit protest good. Impact not important. Only cause.
Farmers have repeatedly done it this year. It isn't a one off.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/feb/10/uk-farmers-vow-to-mount-more-blockades-over-cheap-post-brexit-imports-and-supermarket-prices
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c720x5d18eno
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/25/tractors-london-farmers-protest/
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules... (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
Every year Glastonbury causes crippling tail backs and continuously disrupts infrastructure. It adds hours to journeys for people who have nothing to do with it.
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No; I understand what you’re saying all right.
posted on 18/7/24
I live in Somerset, farmers have blockaded roads around here several times this year.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
Why didn't the people kicking off about JSO stopping traffic also kick off about the farmers doing the same several times this year?
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They didn’t go around trying to destroy works of art or people’s property. The public are generally supportive of the grim reality for farmers these days. These other clowns have lost the mainstream public confidence.
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This is specifically about stopping traffic though. Making people late for appointments etc.
No one complains when farmers to it. So is it OK for groups you agree with to do it, but not those you don't like for other reasons?
As an ardent Brexiter, what's your opinion on this go slow protest by leavers? Should they have faced prison time rather than being fined, or were they OK to do what they did?
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It wasn’t as simple as stopping traffic though.
And I’m not or wasn’t an ardent Brexiter. What that has to do with this is anyone’s guess however.
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You were one of the biggest Leavers on here.
It is that simple. They were charged under conspiracy to cause public nuisance and they judge handed down a sentence based on it being direct action against national infrastructure. Most of the arguments against JSO have been about the road blockages inconveniencing the general public and potentially stopping people making hospital appointments.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
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Again, what on earth does my thoughts on Brexit have to do with this? I’m genuinely baffled. My guess is it’s nothing. As for being one of the biggest believers on here, just me having been supportive of Brexit at the time on this thread would probably have put me in a group of one, so it’s hardly an “accolade” to be the biggest.
Farmers didn’t continually disrupt infrastructure anywhere near the level that this group have. If they did, I’d want the same treatment handed down.
They’ve broken the law continuously and with scant regard to it. If you feel they have been harshly treated so be it. No point in arguing about it further.
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I'm not sure how I can make it more clear for you. Maybe try caveman? You being leave mean you think Brexit protest good. Impact not important. Only cause.
Farmers have repeatedly done it this year. It isn't a one off.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/feb/10/uk-farmers-vow-to-mount-more-blockades-over-cheap-post-brexit-imports-and-supermarket-prices
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c720x5d18eno
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/25/tractors-london-farmers-protest/
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These protests are nothing to do with Brexit for goodness sake. If that’s what you’re trying to imply.
If it’s not; I’m lost
posted on 18/7/24
Do you? Because it seems you pick and choose what disruption to infrastructure is acceptable or not. Not only that, you’re fully behind a draconian right wing law that jails people for peaceful protest.
That’s your choice of course.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
Why didn't the people kicking off about JSO stopping traffic also kick off about the farmers doing the same several times this year?
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They didn’t go around trying to destroy works of art or people’s property. The public are generally supportive of the grim reality for farmers these days. These other clowns have lost the mainstream public confidence.
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This is specifically about stopping traffic though. Making people late for appointments etc.
No one complains when farmers to it. So is it OK for groups you agree with to do it, but not those you don't like for other reasons?
As an ardent Brexiter, what's your opinion on this go slow protest by leavers? Should they have faced prison time rather than being fined, or were they OK to do what they did?
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It wasn’t as simple as stopping traffic though.
And I’m not or wasn’t an ardent Brexiter. What that has to do with this is anyone’s guess however.
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You were one of the biggest Leavers on here.
It is that simple. They were charged under conspiracy to cause public nuisance and they judge handed down a sentence based on it being direct action against national infrastructure. Most of the arguments against JSO have been about the road blockages inconveniencing the general public and potentially stopping people making hospital appointments.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
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Again, what on earth does my thoughts on Brexit have to do with this? I’m genuinely baffled. My guess is it’s nothing. As for being one of the biggest believers on here, just me having been supportive of Brexit at the time on this thread would probably have put me in a group of one, so it’s hardly an “accolade” to be the biggest.
Farmers didn’t continually disrupt infrastructure anywhere near the level that this group have. If they did, I’d want the same treatment handed down.
They’ve broken the law continuously and with scant regard to it. If you feel they have been harshly treated so be it. No point in arguing about it further.
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I'm not sure how I can make it more clear for you. Maybe try caveman? You being leave mean you think Brexit protest good. Impact not important. Only cause.
Farmers have repeatedly done it this year. It isn't a one off.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/feb/10/uk-farmers-vow-to-mount-more-blockades-over-cheap-post-brexit-imports-and-supermarket-prices
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c720x5d18eno
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/25/tractors-london-farmers-protest/
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These protests are nothing to do with Brexit for goodness sake. If that’s what you’re trying to imply.
If it’s not; I’m lost
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No put the Brexit ones where they stopped traffic I posted about as an example in this very thread of comments did. You being a Brexiter was used as an example of how people will make allowances for causes they agree with.
Surely you can't be as dense as you're pretending to be here.
posted on 18/7/24
I try and distinguish between peaceful and non peaceful protests. That is true.
And don’t try your best to paint me as some draconian right winger. That’s just simply ridiculous.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
I try and distinguish between peaceful and non peaceful protests. That is true.
And don’t try your best to paint me as some draconian right winger. That’s just simply ridiculous.
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I've not called you a right winger once.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
Why didn't the people kicking off about JSO stopping traffic also kick off about the farmers doing the same several times this year?
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They didn’t go around trying to destroy works of art or people’s property. The public are generally supportive of the grim reality for farmers these days. These other clowns have lost the mainstream public confidence.
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This is specifically about stopping traffic though. Making people late for appointments etc.
No one complains when farmers to it. So is it OK for groups you agree with to do it, but not those you don't like for other reasons?
As an ardent Brexiter, what's your opinion on this go slow protest by leavers? Should they have faced prison time rather than being fined, or were they OK to do what they did?
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It wasn’t as simple as stopping traffic though.
And I’m not or wasn’t an ardent Brexiter. What that has to do with this is anyone’s guess however.
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You were one of the biggest Leavers on here.
It is that simple. They were charged under conspiracy to cause public nuisance and they judge handed down a sentence based on it being direct action against national infrastructure. Most of the arguments against JSO have been about the road blockages inconveniencing the general public and potentially stopping people making hospital appointments.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
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Again, what on earth does my thoughts on Brexit have to do with this? I’m genuinely baffled. My guess is it’s nothing. As for being one of the biggest believers on here, just me having been supportive of Brexit at the time on this thread would probably have put me in a group of one, so it’s hardly an “accolade” to be the biggest.
Farmers didn’t continually disrupt infrastructure anywhere near the level that this group have. If they did, I’d want the same treatment handed down.
They’ve broken the law continuously and with scant regard to it. If you feel they have been harshly treated so be it. No point in arguing about it further.
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I'm not sure how I can make it more clear for you. Maybe try caveman? You being leave mean you think Brexit protest good. Impact not important. Only cause.
Farmers have repeatedly done it this year. It isn't a one off.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/feb/10/uk-farmers-vow-to-mount-more-blockades-over-cheap-post-brexit-imports-and-supermarket-prices
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c720x5d18eno
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/25/tractors-london-farmers-protest/
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These protests are nothing to do with Brexit for goodness sake. If that’s what you’re trying to imply.
If it’s not; I’m lost
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No put the Brexit ones where they stopped traffic I posted about as an example in this very thread of comments did. You being a Brexiter was used as an example of how people will make allowances for causes they agree with.
Surely you can't be as dense as you're pretending to be here.
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I’ll ignore that last bit of that’s ok. Surely you don’t expect a response to that.
No; I don’t choose to pick and choose what suits me. These protest la for some time have been viewed as not being peaceful by the law. Not my decision. They’ve continually ignored it. What do you think they genuinely expected would happen?
posted on 18/7/24
I've literally just put examples of protests that have exactly the same effect as the JSO one that people have just been convicted for.
Every single person who criticised JSO for reasons of stopping traffic has refused
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
I try and distinguish between peaceful and non peaceful protests. That is true.
And don’t try your best to paint me as some draconian right winger. That’s just simply ridiculous.
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I've not called you a right winger once.
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I never said you did. I said don’t try and paint me as one.
This is getting silly now
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
I've literally just put examples of protests that have exactly the same effect as the JSO one that people have just been convicted for.
Every single person who criticised JSO for reasons of stopping traffic has refused
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They’ve been deemed by the law as being peaceful. Again that’s not my decision.
posted on 18/7/24
What could be more peaceful than trying to deface a priceless piece of art?
I believe the Dalai Lama recommends it.
posted on 18/7/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about a minute ago
Why didn't the people kicking off about JSO stopping traffic also kick off about the farmers doing the same several times this year?
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They didn’t go around trying to destroy works of art or people’s property. The public are generally supportive of the grim reality for farmers these days. These other clowns have lost the mainstream public confidence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is specifically about stopping traffic though. Making people late for appointments etc.
No one complains when farmers to it. So is it OK for groups you agree with to do it, but not those you don't like for other reasons?
As an ardent Brexiter, what's your opinion on this go slow protest by leavers? Should they have faced prison time rather than being fined, or were they OK to do what they did?
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It wasn’t as simple as stopping traffic though.
And I’m not or wasn’t an ardent Brexiter. What that has to do with this is anyone’s guess however.
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You were one of the biggest Leavers on here.
It is that simple. They were charged under conspiracy to cause public nuisance and they judge handed down a sentence based on it being direct action against national infrastructure. Most of the arguments against JSO have been about the road blockages inconveniencing the general public and potentially stopping people making hospital appointments.
The farmer road blockades and the Brexit go slow protests have exactly the same effect. You refusing to acknowledge they be treated the same because you sympathise with them is very relevant. It demonstrates how the conspiracy to cause public nuisance act is used as a political weapon to target protests people don't like.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again, what on earth does my thoughts on Brexit have to do with this? I’m genuinely baffled. My guess is it’s nothing. As for being one of the biggest believers on here, just me having been supportive of Brexit at the time on this thread would probably have put me in a group of one, so it’s hardly an “accolade” to be the biggest.
Farmers didn’t continually disrupt infrastructure anywhere near the level that this group have. If they did, I’d want the same treatment handed down.
They’ve broken the law continuously and with scant regard to it. If you feel they have been harshly treated so be it. No point in arguing about it further.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not sure how I can make it more clear for you. Maybe try caveman? You being leave mean you think Brexit protest good. Impact not important. Only cause.
Farmers have repeatedly done it this year. It isn't a one off.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/feb/10/uk-farmers-vow-to-mount-more-blockades-over-cheap-post-brexit-imports-and-supermarket-prices
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c720x5d18eno
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/25/tractors-london-farmers-protest/
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These protests are nothing to do with Brexit for goodness sake. If that’s what you’re trying to imply.
If it’s not; I’m lost
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No put the Brexit ones where they stopped traffic I posted about as an example in this very thread of comments did. You being a Brexiter was used as an example of how people will make allowances for causes they agree with.
Surely you can't be as dense as you're pretending to be here.
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I’ll ignore that last bit of that’s ok. Surely you don’t expect a response to that.
No; I don’t choose to pick and choose what suits me. These protest la for some time have been viewed as not being peaceful by the law. Not my decision. They’ve continually ignored it. What do you think they genuinely expected would happen?
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The individuals have only been trialled for that one incident. It isn't an accumulation thing.
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