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The us has decided to become more nationalist and less globalist. It’s focusing on its relationship with Mexico. I think the rest of the world massively underestimates and under appreciates what the us does for the world due to its interventionist policies since ww2 but once it’s gone, a lot of countries will notice it.

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I think you mistake "the world" as meaning "wealthy nations" - i.e. less than one in five inhabitants of the planet.

The extent to which it's benefitted the other +80% is arguable to say the least.
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No I'm not mistaking anything.
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Yes, you are. There's a clear case to argue that U.S. intervention has stunted the growth and development of many countries and people in the pursuit of its own interests.
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I think you’re confusing two things I have mentioned.

The interventionist policies are not what I am saying are benefits for the world. I am saying that because of those negatives, people overlook or underestimate the positives that the US does for the world and will miss this when it’s gone.
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So what is it that the US does for the world that is unrelated to its interventionist policies?

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comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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The us has decided to become more nationalist and less globalist. It’s focusing on its relationship with Mexico. I think the rest of the world massively underestimates and under appreciates what the us does for the world due to its interventionist policies since ww2 but once it’s gone, a lot of countries will notice it.

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I think you mistake "the world" as meaning "wealthy nations" - i.e. less than one in five inhabitants of the planet.

The extent to which it's benefitted the other +80% is arguable to say the least.
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No I'm not mistaking anything.
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Yes, you are. There's a clear case to argue that U.S. intervention has stunted the growth and development of many countries and people in the pursuit of its own interests.
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I think you’re confusing two things I have mentioned.

The interventionist policies are not what I am saying are benefits for the world. I am saying that because of those negatives, people overlook or underestimate the positives that the US does for the world and will miss this when it’s gone.
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So what is it that the US does for the world that is unrelated to its interventionist policies?
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Doesn't the US give more foreign aid than any other country?

So it should. They’ve been at war on foreign soil for about 100 years straight one way or another.

comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
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comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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The us has decided to become more nationalist and less globalist. It’s focusing on its relationship with Mexico. I think the rest of the world massively underestimates and under appreciates what the us does for the world due to its interventionist policies since ww2 but once it’s gone, a lot of countries will notice it.

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I think you mistake "the world" as meaning "wealthy nations" - i.e. less than one in five inhabitants of the planet.

The extent to which it's benefitted the other +80% is arguable to say the least.
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No I'm not mistaking anything.
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Yes, you are. There's a clear case to argue that U.S. intervention has stunted the growth and development of many countries and people in the pursuit of its own interests.
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I think you’re confusing two things I have mentioned.

The interventionist policies are not what I am saying are benefits for the world. I am saying that because of those negatives, people overlook or underestimate the positives that the US does for the world and will miss this when it’s gone.
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So what is it that the US does for the world that is unrelated to its interventionist policies?
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Doesn't the US give more foreign aid than any other country?
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How is that unrelated to interventionist policies, when so much of it is tied aid, when the poverty they are purportedly addressing is so intricately linked to the international financial systems overseen by the US, and when the U.S. is instrumental in installing or overthrowing political regimes depending on whether or not they serve U.S. interests?

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
So it should. They’ve been at war on foreign soil for about 100 years straight one way or another.
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US for its faults has never really been a colonial power, several European nations have been far more dominant on that score.

Lost of countries the US donates to and how much, a lot of countries there the US hasn't been involved in militarily.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/countries-that-receive-the-most-foreign-aid-from-the-u-s

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The interventionist policies are not what I am saying are benefits for the world. I am saying that because of those negatives, people overlook or underestimate the positives that the US does for the world and will miss this when it’s gone.
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If i killed 100 people and then went on to save 10 people, do you think everyone would focus on the negative or positive?
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You think you’re capable of numerically weighing up the pros and cons of America? Feel free to show your workings too mate.

Here’s a task - make me a list of pros. List all of the benefits that you think America has provided since its existence.
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Your the one who said that America has bought many positives to the world, that will be forgotten about, which i disagree with, so why would i then go and make a list of 'postive' things they've done
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If you don’t get why I asked you that then cool, don’t worry mate.

NEW: Greater Manchester Labour Mayor Andy Burnham has called for a national inquiry into the rape gangs scandal


Starmer probably thinks he's far right now🤣

comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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So it should. They’ve been at war on foreign soil for about 100 years straight one way or another.
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US for its faults has never really been a colonial power, several European nations have been far more dominant on that score.

Lost of countries the US donates to and how much, a lot of countries there the US hasn't been involved in militarily.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/countries-that-receive-the-most-foreign-aid-from-the-u-s
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(If you ignore the fact that it is, itself, born of colonies founded on genocides.)

Love the rhetoric on here

Have a good day gents

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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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The us has decided to become more nationalist and less globalist. It’s focusing on its relationship with Mexico. I think the rest of the world massively underestimates and under appreciates what the us does for the world due to its interventionist policies since ww2 but once it’s gone, a lot of countries will notice it.

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I think you mistake "the world" as meaning "wealthy nations" - i.e. less than one in five inhabitants of the planet.

The extent to which it's benefitted the other +80% is arguable to say the least.
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No I'm not mistaking anything.
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Yes, you are. There's a clear case to argue that U.S. intervention has stunted the growth and development of many countries and people in the pursuit of its own interests.
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I think you’re confusing two things I have mentioned.

The interventionist policies are not what I am saying are benefits for the world. I am saying that because of those negatives, people overlook or underestimate the positives that the US does for the world and will miss this when it’s gone.
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So what is it that the US does for the world that is unrelated to its interventionist policies?
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Who said it had to be unrelated? What my point was is that things like the Iraq war, involvement in many forgoing wars, invading several countries etc makes a lot of people forget about all of the positive consequences of the US and its actions.

Global free trade is a fkign huge one. Maybe AFC should look to calculate how many lives global trade enabled by the US has saved over the past 70 years say.

Should the US decline and not be the top global leader when it is, who takes that mantle? Some people on here question whether the US is democratic, ok. But who’s next in line? China?

Look at the indisputable levels of peace that the world has had since WW2. Look at the number of deaths from conflicts, life expectancy, child mortality rates, poverty rates.

People in 2025 can look back and brush this all off as a natural consequence of human progress but it’s not a matter of evolution, it was an imposition. An imposition of the US vision of free trade, free market economies, democracies (not dictatorships like we saw in extremee left countries). The US has the chance to tariff the world into poverty, to not allow free trade such as it did, instead it enforced a system where yes it stayed well on top but a fk ton of benefit was provided for emerging countries.

Are they self-serving? Yes, of course. But you haven’t seen anything yet when you compare post WW2 with the next 20-30 years say.

Excuse typos I’m ill and on my phone

comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 32 minutes ago
Love the rhetoric on here

Have a good day gents
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comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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So it should. They’ve been at war on foreign soil for about 100 years straight one way or another.
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US for its faults has never really been a colonial power, several European nations have been far more dominant on that score.

Lost of countries the US donates to and how much, a lot of countries there the US hasn't been involved in militarily.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/countries-that-receive-the-most-foreign-aid-from-the-u-s
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Colonial power or not, the US are permanently at war on foreign soil and have been since WW2. All over the world too, they’ve got their people killing other people because, well, they’re just always right aren’t they.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States#:~:text=It%20also%20includes%20US%20involvement,in%20Afghanistan%2C%20and%20others).

comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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So it should. They’ve been at war on foreign soil for about 100 years straight one way or another.
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US for its faults has never really been a colonial power, several European nations have been far more dominant on that score.

Lost of countries the US donates to and how much, a lot of countries there the US hasn't been involved in militarily.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/countries-that-receive-the-most-foreign-aid-from-the-u-s
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Has never been a colonial power? Monroe Doctrine, Manifest Destiny, they colonised countless indigenous nations. How many times have they invaded Latin American countries?
Are you really this myopic?

How you doing with the weather SoQ?

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comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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So it should. They’ve been at war on foreign soil for about 100 years straight one way or another.
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US for its faults has never really been a colonial power, several European nations have been far more dominant on that score.

Lost of countries the US donates to and how much, a lot of countries there the US hasn't been involved in militarily.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/countries-that-receive-the-most-foreign-aid-from-the-u-s
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Has never been a colonial power?Monroe Doctrine, Manifest Destiny, they colonised countless indigenous nations. How many times have they invaded Latin American countries?
Are you really this myopic?
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America f**k yeah
Comin' again to save the muthaf***in day yeah!

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comment by son of quebec (U8127)
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comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
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So it should. They’ve been at war on foreign soil for about 100 years straight one way or another.
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US for its faults has never really been a colonial power, several European nations have been far more dominant on that score.

Lost of countries the US donates to and how much, a lot of countries there the US hasn't been involved in militarily.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/countries-that-receive-the-most-foreign-aid-from-the-u-s
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Has never been a colonial power?Monroe Doctrine, Manifest Destiny, they colonised countless indigenous nations. How many times have they invaded Latin American countries?
Are you really this myopic?
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America f**k yeah
Comin' again to save the muthaf***in day yeah!
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I'm Matt Damon.

comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
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NEW: Greater Manchester Labour Mayor Andy Burnham has called for a national inquiry into the rape gangs scandal


Starmer probably thinks he's far right now🤣

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I want an enquiry into the fackin Churches as well...these nonce caants want bringing to justice

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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How you doing with the weather SoQ?
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Up and down temperatures. Mixed precipitation. Had to do some banking last week was nice ish when I went in 40 minutes later I couldn't leave because freezing @#$& rain. Could hardly cross the sidewalk to get into taxi. Heavy snow has fortunately passed north and south of the river missing us so no real complaints.
But the real storm is coming after Jan.20th.
25% tariffs. Yeehaw. With no PM and parliament prorogued.

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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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How you doing with the weather SoQ?
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Up and down temperatures. Mixed precipitation. Had to do some banking last week was nice ish when I went in 40 minutes later I couldn't leave because freezing @#$& rain.Could hardly cross the sidewalk to get into taxi. Heavy snow has fortunately passed north and south of the river missing us so no real complaints.
But the real storm is coming after Jan.20th.
25% tariffs. Yeehaw. With no PM and parliament prorogued.
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Freezing rain is a right son of a

America have never really been a colonial power. You can tell Cinci’s been living there too long.

comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 18 minutes ago
America have never really been a colonial power.You can tell Cinci’s been living there too long.
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Shall we compare real colonial powers like the UK, France and Spain to the US? Nah, thought not.

Hawaii, Philippines, Panama(which while taking control of the canal they set up independence for Panama from Colombia), Cuba for like three years and some tiny little specks in the ocean.

Some say Liberia, but Independence was recognised way back in the 1850s or something while Europe was running rampant for another 100 years on the continent. Liberia was primarily set up for freed African americans incidentally.

If the US were a colonial power they were feckin awful at it

comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
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comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 18 minutes ago
America have never really been a colonial power.You can tell Cinci’s been living there too long.
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Shall we compare real colonial powers like the UK, France and Spain to the US? Nah, thought not.

Hawaii, Philippines, Panama(which while taking control of the canal they set up independence for Panama from Colombia), Cuba for like three yearsand some tiny little specks in the ocean.

Some say Liberia, but Independence was recognised way back in the 1850s or something while Europe was running rampant for another 100 years on the continent. Liberia was primarily set up for freed African americans incidentally.

If the US were a colonial power they were feckin awful at it
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The fvkin land you live on was colonised. The whole of America was.

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
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comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 18 minutes ago
America have never really been a colonial power.You can tell Cinci’s been living there too long.
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Shall we compare real colonial powers like the UK, France and Spain to the US? Nah, thought not.

Hawaii, Philippines, Panama(which while taking control of the canal they set up independence for Panama from Colombia), Cuba for like three yearsand some tiny little specks in the ocean.

Some say Liberia, but Independence was recognised way back in the 1850s or something while Europe was running rampant for another 100 years on the continent. Liberia was primarily set up for freed African americans incidentally.

If the US were a colonial power they were feckin awful at it
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The fvkin land you live on was colonised. The whole of America was.
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Of course, Canada wasn't right?

Fair play to Andy Burnham.

Shame the gutless Labour mp's didn’t have the minerals to go against their hopeless leader.

I see Truss is sending a stiff letter claiming she didn't crash the economy, how long before Reeve will be doing the same!!?