is it lack of technical ability to go to the big grounds and come away with 3 points? is it poor preparation?
I personnally think away from home we lack technically, especially when pressed and we struggle to match up with other teams. Our last away in against a top rival was almost 2 yrs ago at City .
Players like Dier and Alli need competition, Sissoko although improved is not up to the task , Llorente also .
We need to spend to catchup with our rivals and Poch can’t keep producing miracles with this team .
Spurs aren’t going to get a better understudy for Kane.
Llorente has pedigree and scored PL goals last season.
Janssen has promise and scored loads of goals in Holland.
Nobody better than those two players is going to want to sit on the bench all season for Spurs.
It’s ok doing that for Barcelona or Real Madrid if you are an almost great player but no almost great player is going to sit on Spurs bench.
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 24 seconds ago
Spurs aren’t going to get a better understudy for Kane.
Llorente has pedigree and scored PL goals last season.
Janssen has promise and scored loads of goals in Holland.
Nobody better than those two players is going to want to sit on the bench all season for Spurs.
It’s ok doing that for Barcelona or Real Madrid if you are an almost great player but no almost great player is going to sit on Spurs bench.
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That’s why we should’ve stuck with Janssen. With all his faults at least he got involved in the play. Llorente is just a statue and if the Ball doesn’t land directly on his head there’s nothing else he does
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 14 minutes ago
Spurs aren’t going to get a better understudy for Kane.
Llorente has pedigree and scored PL goals last season.
Janssen has promise and scored loads of goals in Holland.
Nobody better than those two players is going to want to sit on the bench all season for Spurs.
It’s ok doing that for Barcelona or Real Madrid if you are an almost great player but no almost great player is going to sit on Spurs bench.
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There must be plenty of strikers around that would be happy to sit on the bench for say £50 grand a week, and when called on, could score a goal or two. I don`t get you need a superstar, surely there are strikers around in the lower league that know how to score goals. You just need a hungry young fella who is open to improvement.
Oh we had one in Janssen, but he wasn`t given any time.
How do we progress? Such a simple question yet the answer is both seemingly unattainable and eternally elusive. We seem to more or less have a squad/team which should win a trophy but we are constantly left empty handed and frustrated. Long term injuries and the constant threat of our top stars being coaxed by money no object clubs doesn't help either.
A point others have stated with which I agree with is the need for at least two more quality strikers. This will be difficult to achieve as an established top striker won't want to play second fiddle to HK so we will have to buy a good striker and improve him or recruit an overlooked or undiscovered gem. Not too hard to do eh?
I also think that Poch needs to improve tactically and strategically. Certain players for certain games and if the game plan is not panning out then to be more proactive and clinical in making substitutions. Today for example it was evident early on that Kane wasn't fit enough and Alli and Erikssen were below par but he waited too long before making changes. Doesn't mean we would have retrieved the situation but it would have been the positive and brave thing to do.
In the meantime all the staff and players have to keep on working hard and try to keep on improving. We have come a long way in the last four/five years and everybody who has been a part of that should be thanked and applauded.
We failed to win today not because of Kane or his understudy. We just did not create Enough. When you go away to the big teams you have to create the chances and take them . Same against Man U, it was more a containment game but these teams have quality and if you don’t create will eventually punish you . Hence we need to add more technical quality to our team. Players who can not only handle a football but offer that creative element.
Okay, this 'Away v Top 6' is beginning to get on my nerves.
Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are in the top 6 for a reason. They are very good teams and especially so at home.
Worrying that we can't win away at these teams is a bit like worrying that England won't win the World Cup. No team is expected to win these types of games.
Sure our record hasn't been great over the last few years. But guess what? No team has a good record away v the top 6. They're the top 6 ffs!
Similar the the 'Wembley hoodoo' I can't believe this is even a topic for discussion.
There is no 'problem' to fix. Picking up points away against good teams is hard. Nobody is good at it. After we've smashed West Brom 4-0 this result will be viewed more rationally.
PS. For what it's worth, picture this. Dele puts his chance away at Old Trafford, we win 1-0. Mike Dean is not assigned to the game today, it may well have been a draw. 4 points instead of 0. Fine margins.
Sissoko, offers very little, not sure how he gets in the team, to progress as the op says we need to sign better quality than him and N'koudu as back ups, also I think some of the players are starting to believe all the hype about being title contenders, come on get your feet on the grass
comment by WorcesterSpur (U1678)
posted 7 minutes ago
Okay, this 'Away v Top 6' is beginning to get on my nerves.
Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are in the top 6 for a reason. They are very good teams and especially so at home.
Worrying that we can't win away at these teams is a bit like worrying that England won't win the World Cup. No team is expected to win these types of games.
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its not like that at all, because England are not a very good team on the international stage, but Spurs are a very good team on the domestic stage.....
we won't win the league until we can start doing the double over our immediate rivals. look at the year lesta won it.. they took 4 points from us... last year Chelsea took 4 from us...
Analogies aside, my point is that we shouldn't get too worked up about not achieving results we didn't expect.
I wanted us to win as much as the next fan. But I recognise it's much more of a problem to draw at home to Swansea than lose at Arsenal or United.
Disappointing? Yes. A bit nauseating? Yes. Season changing? No.
comment by WorcesterSpur (U1678)
posted 18 minutes ago
Okay, this 'Away v Top 6' is beginning to get on my nerves.
Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are in the top 6 for a reason. They are very good teams and especially so at home.
Worrying that we can't win away at these teams is a bit like worrying that England won't win the World Cup. No team is expected to win these types of games.
Sure our record hasn't been great over the last few years. But guess what? No team has a good record away v the top 6. They're the top 6 ffs!
Similar the the 'Wembley hoodoo' I can't believe this is even a topic for discussion.
There is no 'problem' to fix. Picking up points away against good teams is hard. Nobody is good at it. After we've smashed West Brom 4-0 this result will be viewed more rationally.
PS. For what it's worth, picture this. Dele puts his chance away at Old Trafford, we win 1-0. Mike Dean is not assigned to the game today, it may well have been a draw. 4 points instead of 0. Fine margins.
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At last a poster who is putting this into some kind of perspective. The way some of our supporters are going on as if the other top teams routinely go to the top six and win, they don`t. Sure Spurs are probably the worse of the lot, but United have hardly scored an away goal at any of the top clubs for a very long time now. Arsenal never win at any of the big boys, Liverpool were doing OK, but they have been smashed this season at Spurs and City. Chelsea don`t do to bad, but not a lot of use if you then lose to Burnley and Palace.
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by WorcesterSpur (U1678)
posted 7 minutes ago
Okay, this 'Away v Top 6' is beginning to get on my nerves.
Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are in the top 6 for a reason. They are very good teams and especially so at home.
Worrying that we can't win away at these teams is a bit like worrying that England won't win the World Cup. No team is expected to win these types of games.
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its not like that at all, because England are not a very good team on the international stage, but Spurs are a very good team on the domestic stage.....
we won't win the league until we can start doing the double over our immediate rivals. look at the year lesta won it.. they took 4 points from us... last year Chelsea took 4 from us...
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Liverpool took loads of points from the top six teams last season, including a few doubles, and barely scrapped into the top four.
Wanyama would have been a real asset today. Our midfield was bullied off the ground by the Arsenholes. Alli, Eriksen and Debele did nowt, zilch, diddlysquat.
Sissoko was our best midfielder, What does that tell you?
Personel? Where was Aurier?
Tactics? Why start with a back 3? Especially with Toby out and Davies getting creamed down the left.
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wanyama would have been a real asset today. Our midfield was bullied off the ground by the Arsenholes. Alli, Eriksen and Debele did nowt, zilch, diddlysquat.
Sissoko was our best midfielder, What does that tell you?
Personel? Where was Aurier?
Tactics? Why start with a back 3? Especially with Toby out and Davies getting creamed down the left.
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Why do you keep asking where Aurier was? Clearly watched the game so would’ve seen he was on bench
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by WorcesterSpur (U1678)
posted 7 minutes ago
Okay, this 'Away v Top 6' is beginning to get on my nerves.
Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are in the top 6 for a reason. They are very good teams and especially so at home.
Worrying that we can't win away at these teams is a bit like worrying that England won't win the World Cup. No team is expected to win these types of games.
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its not like that at all, because England are not a very good team on the international stage, but Spurs are a very good team on the domestic stage.....
we won't win the league until we can start doing the double over our immediate rivals. look at the year lesta won it.. they took 4 points from us... last year Chelsea took 4 from us...
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Liverpool took loads of points from the top six teams last season, including a few doubles, and barely scrapped into the top four.
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We seem to be the opposite of Liverpool in that we have an excellent record against the small teams but struggle, especially away, again fellow top six teams.
I know which I would rather have, there are far more points available against the bottom 14 teams. However to actually win a title we need to start picking up away wins at the big clubs.
comment by ツ VertongHєиgу• (U9129)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wanyama would have been a real asset today. Our midfield was bullied off the ground by the Arsenholes. Alli, Eriksen and Debele did nowt, zilch, diddlysquat.
Sissoko was our best midfielder, What does that tell you?
Personel? Where was Aurier?
Tactics? Why start with a back 3? Especially with Toby out and Davies getting creamed down the left.
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Why do you keep asking where Aurier was? Clearly watched the game so would’ve seen he was on bench
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Why was he not on the field?
That is the question - understand now, do you?
And as for progressing, Poch has solved many problems in his time at Spurs, weak defence, continually throwing away leads, not able to beat the big six teams home or away, and most recently playing at Wembley. I wouldn't bet against him solving this problem either.
It's not just our away record in the last five seasons according to this.....
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/5u8gia/premier_league_top_6_head_to_head_record_201213/
This season arguably can be written off with the excuse of wembley i think whatever happens we cannot be too sad.
I think the only way to progress and its not without risk is to invest properly invest in the transfer market.
N'koudou, sissoko, gazzaniga, foyth all not good enough arguably for the premier league.
Dembele legs have now gone its been known for years we are now sadly watching it. What use is a guy who needs to be rested and can only play the 80 minutes? Same with Vorm with his constant knee injury flaring up why keep him?
Aurier is an absoloute liability and is tactically awful. Llorente does not suit us but is wonderful to watch.
Thats a big old squad reshuffle to do and would take several windows to achieve.
Today is what it is it felt like it had 2-0 written all over it before the game every paper every pundit was lauding spurs, poch will show wenger how its done. Hopefully today was a wake up to the squad to poch who i personally think has gotten a bit of an ego (this book launch is a farce) and now we can all knuckle down. December is the peak of our fitness so we should be doing well.
Interesting to see what we do against Dortmund. They are looking awful at the moment. Not that most fans realise that so we can absorb the loss there as we have qualified shouldnt be too much of an uproar.
If we lose against West brom lets all panic.
Today hurts but we can get revenge in March.
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by ツ VertongHєиgу• (U9129)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wanyama would have been a real asset today. Our midfield was bullied off the ground by the Arsenholes. Alli, Eriksen and Debele did nowt, zilch, diddlysquat.
Sissoko was our best midfielder, What does that tell you?
Personel? Where was Aurier?
Tactics? Why start with a back 3? Especially with Toby out and Davies getting creamed down the left.
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Why do you keep asking where Aurier was? Clearly watched the game so would’ve seen he was on bench
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Why was he not on the field?
That is the question - understand now, do you?
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No the question was “where was Aurier”
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 38 seconds ago
This season arguably can be written off with the excuse of wembley i think whatever happens we cannot be too sad.
I think the only way to progress and its not without risk is to invest properly invest in the transfer market.
N'koudou, sissoko, gazzaniga, foyth all not good enough arguably for the premier league.
Dembele legs have now gone its been known for years we are now sadly watching it. What use is a guy who needs to be rested and can only play the 80 minutes? Same with Vorm with his constant knee injury flaring up why keep him?
Aurier is an absoloute liability and is tactically awful. Llorente does not suit us but is wonderful to watch.
Thats a big old squad reshuffle to do and would take several windows to achieve.
Today is what it is it felt like it had 2-0 written all over it before the game every paper every pundit was lauding spurs, poch will show wenger how its done. Hopefully today was a wake up to the squad to poch who i personally think has gotten a bit of an ego (this book launch is a farce) and now we can all knuckle down. December is the peak of our fitness so we should be doing well.
Interesting to see what we do against Dortmund. They are looking awful at the moment. Not that most fans realise that so we can absorb the loss there as we have qualified shouldnt be too much of an uproar.
If we lose against West brom lets all panic.
Today hurts but we can get revenge in March.
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Yep it’s wonderful watching Llorente stand like a statue
comment by ツ VertongHєиgу• (U9129)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 38 seconds ago
This season arguably can be written off with the excuse of wembley i think whatever happens we cannot be too sad.
I think the only way to progress and its not without risk is to invest properly invest in the transfer market.
N'koudou, sissoko, gazzaniga, foyth all not good enough arguably for the premier league.
Dembele legs have now gone its been known for years we are now sadly watching it. What use is a guy who needs to be rested and can only play the 80 minutes? Same with Vorm with his constant knee injury flaring up why keep him?
Aurier is an absoloute liability and is tactically awful. Llorente does not suit us but is wonderful to watch.
Thats a big old squad reshuffle to do and would take several windows to achieve.
Today is what it is it felt like it had 2-0 written all over it before the game every paper every pundit was lauding spurs, poch will show wenger how its done. Hopefully today was a wake up to the squad to poch who i personally think has gotten a bit of an ego (this book launch is a farce) and now we can all knuckle down. December is the peak of our fitness so we should be doing well.
Interesting to see what we do against Dortmund. They are looking awful at the moment. Not that most fans realise that so we can absorb the loss there as we have qualified shouldnt be too much of an uproar.
If we lose against West brom lets all panic.
Today hurts but we can get revenge in March.
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Yep it’s wonderful watching Llorente stand like a statue
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Aurier is an absoloute liability and is tactically awful.
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Ah ha! But we (Levy & Pochettino) bought him as a replacement for Walker!
Instead of Toljan.
And it was known ATT that Aurier had discipline problems. Is that what you refer to?
So what now, in your opinion? Sell him back to PSG?
I don’t think it’s down to a mentality problem but rather a lack of poor options on the bench.
Kane was clearly injured before we kicked off but Poch played him anyway, simple reason for this is that Poch knows Llorente simply is not good enough.
Again we had Winks who has a slight injury on the bench so we started Dembele who IMO is finished due to injuries, and couldn’t complete 90 mins.
Wanyama again injured usually we would play Dier , but Toby is injured and the only other option was Foyth who at this level is unproven to play CB.
Injuries will cost us this season and if I’m honest I think we will struggle to get top 4 , unfortunately we don’t have the options, City , Utd and Chelsea have to just splash silly money on players.
I think the best thing we could do would be to clear out the shat we have in the summer, ie KGNK , Dembele , Llorente and get some young hungry players In.
Also if Madrid want Dele they can have him , I’m fed up watching him fall over and try silly tricks just to fack em up.
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posted on 18/11/17
is it lack of technical ability to go to the big grounds and come away with 3 points? is it poor preparation?
I personnally think away from home we lack technically, especially when pressed and we struggle to match up with other teams. Our last away in against a top rival was almost 2 yrs ago at City .
Players like Dier and Alli need competition, Sissoko although improved is not up to the task , Llorente also .
We need to spend to catchup with our rivals and Poch can’t keep producing miracles with this team .
posted on 18/11/17
Spurs aren’t going to get a better understudy for Kane.
Llorente has pedigree and scored PL goals last season.
Janssen has promise and scored loads of goals in Holland.
Nobody better than those two players is going to want to sit on the bench all season for Spurs.
It’s ok doing that for Barcelona or Real Madrid if you are an almost great player but no almost great player is going to sit on Spurs bench.
posted on 18/11/17
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 24 seconds ago
Spurs aren’t going to get a better understudy for Kane.
Llorente has pedigree and scored PL goals last season.
Janssen has promise and scored loads of goals in Holland.
Nobody better than those two players is going to want to sit on the bench all season for Spurs.
It’s ok doing that for Barcelona or Real Madrid if you are an almost great player but no almost great player is going to sit on Spurs bench.
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That’s why we should’ve stuck with Janssen. With all his faults at least he got involved in the play. Llorente is just a statue and if the Ball doesn’t land directly on his head there’s nothing else he does
posted on 18/11/17
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 14 minutes ago
Spurs aren’t going to get a better understudy for Kane.
Llorente has pedigree and scored PL goals last season.
Janssen has promise and scored loads of goals in Holland.
Nobody better than those two players is going to want to sit on the bench all season for Spurs.
It’s ok doing that for Barcelona or Real Madrid if you are an almost great player but no almost great player is going to sit on Spurs bench.
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There must be plenty of strikers around that would be happy to sit on the bench for say £50 grand a week, and when called on, could score a goal or two. I don`t get you need a superstar, surely there are strikers around in the lower league that know how to score goals. You just need a hungry young fella who is open to improvement.
Oh we had one in Janssen, but he wasn`t given any time.
posted on 18/11/17
How do we progress? Such a simple question yet the answer is both seemingly unattainable and eternally elusive. We seem to more or less have a squad/team which should win a trophy but we are constantly left empty handed and frustrated. Long term injuries and the constant threat of our top stars being coaxed by money no object clubs doesn't help either.
A point others have stated with which I agree with is the need for at least two more quality strikers. This will be difficult to achieve as an established top striker won't want to play second fiddle to HK so we will have to buy a good striker and improve him or recruit an overlooked or undiscovered gem. Not too hard to do eh?
I also think that Poch needs to improve tactically and strategically. Certain players for certain games and if the game plan is not panning out then to be more proactive and clinical in making substitutions. Today for example it was evident early on that Kane wasn't fit enough and Alli and Erikssen were below par but he waited too long before making changes. Doesn't mean we would have retrieved the situation but it would have been the positive and brave thing to do.
In the meantime all the staff and players have to keep on working hard and try to keep on improving. We have come a long way in the last four/five years and everybody who has been a part of that should be thanked and applauded.
posted on 18/11/17
We failed to win today not because of Kane or his understudy. We just did not create Enough. When you go away to the big teams you have to create the chances and take them . Same against Man U, it was more a containment game but these teams have quality and if you don’t create will eventually punish you . Hence we need to add more technical quality to our team. Players who can not only handle a football but offer that creative element.
posted on 18/11/17
Okay, this 'Away v Top 6' is beginning to get on my nerves.
Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are in the top 6 for a reason. They are very good teams and especially so at home.
Worrying that we can't win away at these teams is a bit like worrying that England won't win the World Cup. No team is expected to win these types of games.
Sure our record hasn't been great over the last few years. But guess what? No team has a good record away v the top 6. They're the top 6 ffs!
Similar the the 'Wembley hoodoo' I can't believe this is even a topic for discussion.
There is no 'problem' to fix. Picking up points away against good teams is hard. Nobody is good at it. After we've smashed West Brom 4-0 this result will be viewed more rationally.
PS. For what it's worth, picture this. Dele puts his chance away at Old Trafford, we win 1-0. Mike Dean is not assigned to the game today, it may well have been a draw. 4 points instead of 0. Fine margins.
posted on 18/11/17
Sissoko, offers very little, not sure how he gets in the team, to progress as the op says we need to sign better quality than him and N'koudu as back ups, also I think some of the players are starting to believe all the hype about being title contenders, come on get your feet on the grass
posted on 18/11/17
comment by WorcesterSpur (U1678)
posted 7 minutes ago
Okay, this 'Away v Top 6' is beginning to get on my nerves.
Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are in the top 6 for a reason. They are very good teams and especially so at home.
Worrying that we can't win away at these teams is a bit like worrying that England won't win the World Cup. No team is expected to win these types of games.
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its not like that at all, because England are not a very good team on the international stage, but Spurs are a very good team on the domestic stage.....
we won't win the league until we can start doing the double over our immediate rivals. look at the year lesta won it.. they took 4 points from us... last year Chelsea took 4 from us...
posted on 18/11/17
Chelsea took 3
posted on 18/11/17
Analogies aside, my point is that we shouldn't get too worked up about not achieving results we didn't expect.
I wanted us to win as much as the next fan. But I recognise it's much more of a problem to draw at home to Swansea than lose at Arsenal or United.
Disappointing? Yes. A bit nauseating? Yes. Season changing? No.
posted on 18/11/17
comment by WorcesterSpur (U1678)
posted 18 minutes ago
Okay, this 'Away v Top 6' is beginning to get on my nerves.
Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are in the top 6 for a reason. They are very good teams and especially so at home.
Worrying that we can't win away at these teams is a bit like worrying that England won't win the World Cup. No team is expected to win these types of games.
Sure our record hasn't been great over the last few years. But guess what? No team has a good record away v the top 6. They're the top 6 ffs!
Similar the the 'Wembley hoodoo' I can't believe this is even a topic for discussion.
There is no 'problem' to fix. Picking up points away against good teams is hard. Nobody is good at it. After we've smashed West Brom 4-0 this result will be viewed more rationally.
PS. For what it's worth, picture this. Dele puts his chance away at Old Trafford, we win 1-0. Mike Dean is not assigned to the game today, it may well have been a draw. 4 points instead of 0. Fine margins.
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At last a poster who is putting this into some kind of perspective. The way some of our supporters are going on as if the other top teams routinely go to the top six and win, they don`t. Sure Spurs are probably the worse of the lot, but United have hardly scored an away goal at any of the top clubs for a very long time now. Arsenal never win at any of the big boys, Liverpool were doing OK, but they have been smashed this season at Spurs and City. Chelsea don`t do to bad, but not a lot of use if you then lose to Burnley and Palace.
posted on 18/11/17
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by WorcesterSpur (U1678)
posted 7 minutes ago
Okay, this 'Away v Top 6' is beginning to get on my nerves.
Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are in the top 6 for a reason. They are very good teams and especially so at home.
Worrying that we can't win away at these teams is a bit like worrying that England won't win the World Cup. No team is expected to win these types of games.
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its not like that at all, because England are not a very good team on the international stage, but Spurs are a very good team on the domestic stage.....
we won't win the league until we can start doing the double over our immediate rivals. look at the year lesta won it.. they took 4 points from us... last year Chelsea took 4 from us...
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Liverpool took loads of points from the top six teams last season, including a few doubles, and barely scrapped into the top four.
posted on 18/11/17
Wanyama would have been a real asset today. Our midfield was bullied off the ground by the Arsenholes. Alli, Eriksen and Debele did nowt, zilch, diddlysquat.
Sissoko was our best midfielder, What does that tell you?
Personel? Where was Aurier?
Tactics? Why start with a back 3? Especially with Toby out and Davies getting creamed down the left.
posted on 18/11/17
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wanyama would have been a real asset today. Our midfield was bullied off the ground by the Arsenholes. Alli, Eriksen and Debele did nowt, zilch, diddlysquat.
Sissoko was our best midfielder, What does that tell you?
Personel? Where was Aurier?
Tactics? Why start with a back 3? Especially with Toby out and Davies getting creamed down the left.
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Why do you keep asking where Aurier was? Clearly watched the game so would’ve seen he was on bench
posted on 18/11/17
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by WorcesterSpur (U1678)
posted 7 minutes ago
Okay, this 'Away v Top 6' is beginning to get on my nerves.
Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are in the top 6 for a reason. They are very good teams and especially so at home.
Worrying that we can't win away at these teams is a bit like worrying that England won't win the World Cup. No team is expected to win these types of games.
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its not like that at all, because England are not a very good team on the international stage, but Spurs are a very good team on the domestic stage.....
we won't win the league until we can start doing the double over our immediate rivals. look at the year lesta won it.. they took 4 points from us... last year Chelsea took 4 from us...
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Liverpool took loads of points from the top six teams last season, including a few doubles, and barely scrapped into the top four.
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We seem to be the opposite of Liverpool in that we have an excellent record against the small teams but struggle, especially away, again fellow top six teams.
I know which I would rather have, there are far more points available against the bottom 14 teams. However to actually win a title we need to start picking up away wins at the big clubs.
posted on 18/11/17
comment by ツ VertongHєиgу• (U9129)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wanyama would have been a real asset today. Our midfield was bullied off the ground by the Arsenholes. Alli, Eriksen and Debele did nowt, zilch, diddlysquat.
Sissoko was our best midfielder, What does that tell you?
Personel? Where was Aurier?
Tactics? Why start with a back 3? Especially with Toby out and Davies getting creamed down the left.
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Why do you keep asking where Aurier was? Clearly watched the game so would’ve seen he was on bench
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Why was he not on the field?
That is the question - understand now, do you?
posted on 18/11/17
And as for progressing, Poch has solved many problems in his time at Spurs, weak defence, continually throwing away leads, not able to beat the big six teams home or away, and most recently playing at Wembley. I wouldn't bet against him solving this problem either.
posted on 18/11/17
It's not just our away record in the last five seasons according to this.....
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/5u8gia/premier_league_top_6_head_to_head_record_201213/
posted on 18/11/17
This season arguably can be written off with the excuse of wembley i think whatever happens we cannot be too sad.
I think the only way to progress and its not without risk is to invest properly invest in the transfer market.
N'koudou, sissoko, gazzaniga, foyth all not good enough arguably for the premier league.
Dembele legs have now gone its been known for years we are now sadly watching it. What use is a guy who needs to be rested and can only play the 80 minutes? Same with Vorm with his constant knee injury flaring up why keep him?
Aurier is an absoloute liability and is tactically awful. Llorente does not suit us but is wonderful to watch.
Thats a big old squad reshuffle to do and would take several windows to achieve.
Today is what it is it felt like it had 2-0 written all over it before the game every paper every pundit was lauding spurs, poch will show wenger how its done. Hopefully today was a wake up to the squad to poch who i personally think has gotten a bit of an ego (this book launch is a farce) and now we can all knuckle down. December is the peak of our fitness so we should be doing well.
Interesting to see what we do against Dortmund. They are looking awful at the moment. Not that most fans realise that so we can absorb the loss there as we have qualified shouldnt be too much of an uproar.
If we lose against West brom lets all panic.
Today hurts but we can get revenge in March.
posted on 18/11/17
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by ツ VertongHєиgу• (U9129)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wanyama would have been a real asset today. Our midfield was bullied off the ground by the Arsenholes. Alli, Eriksen and Debele did nowt, zilch, diddlysquat.
Sissoko was our best midfielder, What does that tell you?
Personel? Where was Aurier?
Tactics? Why start with a back 3? Especially with Toby out and Davies getting creamed down the left.
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Why do you keep asking where Aurier was? Clearly watched the game so would’ve seen he was on bench
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Why was he not on the field?
That is the question - understand now, do you?
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No the question was “where was Aurier”
posted on 18/11/17
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 38 seconds ago
This season arguably can be written off with the excuse of wembley i think whatever happens we cannot be too sad.
I think the only way to progress and its not without risk is to invest properly invest in the transfer market.
N'koudou, sissoko, gazzaniga, foyth all not good enough arguably for the premier league.
Dembele legs have now gone its been known for years we are now sadly watching it. What use is a guy who needs to be rested and can only play the 80 minutes? Same with Vorm with his constant knee injury flaring up why keep him?
Aurier is an absoloute liability and is tactically awful. Llorente does not suit us but is wonderful to watch.
Thats a big old squad reshuffle to do and would take several windows to achieve.
Today is what it is it felt like it had 2-0 written all over it before the game every paper every pundit was lauding spurs, poch will show wenger how its done. Hopefully today was a wake up to the squad to poch who i personally think has gotten a bit of an ego (this book launch is a farce) and now we can all knuckle down. December is the peak of our fitness so we should be doing well.
Interesting to see what we do against Dortmund. They are looking awful at the moment. Not that most fans realise that so we can absorb the loss there as we have qualified shouldnt be too much of an uproar.
If we lose against West brom lets all panic.
Today hurts but we can get revenge in March.
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Yep it’s wonderful watching Llorente stand like a statue
posted on 18/11/17
comment by ツ VertongHєиgу• (U9129)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 38 seconds ago
This season arguably can be written off with the excuse of wembley i think whatever happens we cannot be too sad.
I think the only way to progress and its not without risk is to invest properly invest in the transfer market.
N'koudou, sissoko, gazzaniga, foyth all not good enough arguably for the premier league.
Dembele legs have now gone its been known for years we are now sadly watching it. What use is a guy who needs to be rested and can only play the 80 minutes? Same with Vorm with his constant knee injury flaring up why keep him?
Aurier is an absoloute liability and is tactically awful. Llorente does not suit us but is wonderful to watch.
Thats a big old squad reshuffle to do and would take several windows to achieve.
Today is what it is it felt like it had 2-0 written all over it before the game every paper every pundit was lauding spurs, poch will show wenger how its done. Hopefully today was a wake up to the squad to poch who i personally think has gotten a bit of an ego (this book launch is a farce) and now we can all knuckle down. December is the peak of our fitness so we should be doing well.
Interesting to see what we do against Dortmund. They are looking awful at the moment. Not that most fans realise that so we can absorb the loss there as we have qualified shouldnt be too much of an uproar.
If we lose against West brom lets all panic.
Today hurts but we can get revenge in March.
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Yep it’s wonderful watching Llorente stand like a statue
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posted on 18/11/17
Aurier is an absoloute liability and is tactically awful.
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Ah ha! But we (Levy & Pochettino) bought him as a replacement for Walker!
Instead of Toljan.
And it was known ATT that Aurier had discipline problems. Is that what you refer to?
So what now, in your opinion? Sell him back to PSG?
posted on 18/11/17
I don’t think it’s down to a mentality problem but rather a lack of poor options on the bench.
Kane was clearly injured before we kicked off but Poch played him anyway, simple reason for this is that Poch knows Llorente simply is not good enough.
Again we had Winks who has a slight injury on the bench so we started Dembele who IMO is finished due to injuries, and couldn’t complete 90 mins.
Wanyama again injured usually we would play Dier , but Toby is injured and the only other option was Foyth who at this level is unproven to play CB.
Injuries will cost us this season and if I’m honest I think we will struggle to get top 4 , unfortunately we don’t have the options, City , Utd and Chelsea have to just splash silly money on players.
I think the best thing we could do would be to clear out the shat we have in the summer, ie KGNK , Dembele , Llorente and get some young hungry players In.
Also if Madrid want Dele they can have him , I’m fed up watching him fall over and try silly tricks just to fack em up.
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