We need one more quality forward when Morata is out of touch and a quality winger to again become a good outfit.Pedro and Moses should have started the match versus West Ham for me.

Yeah it's a bit silly. Pedro is good enough to start for Barcelona.....i was dying for liverpool to sign him after Suarez left.

Willian's good enough to start for Brazil aswell.

Morata's not as good as people make out of you ask me. But maybe he gives you another dimension, you only really had 3 attacking players start today!

Beginning of the end if we persist with this formation, can't keep on trying to stifle teams only to rely on hazard n a misfiring morata,

Back to 2 midfielder with or without fabragas, we need to pose a bigger threat going forward

The formation is too restricting when it comes to our players. I'm really surprised, we were all praising Conte for using a formation that suited the payers and brought the best out of them last season.
And you can tell he wants to play by controlling the game but it's leaving too many good players out. Hazard has to be our spark almost all by himself

It's no good when we have players who have proven ability just sitting on the bench.

I don’t get why Conte changed a system that won him 30 league games last season. I can understand it to an extent against the bigger sides but not against the likes of West Ham.

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
I don’t get why Conte changed a system that won him 30 league games last season. I can understand it to an extent against the bigger sides but not against the likes of West Ham.
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To try and accommodate Fabregas would be my guess!

Fabregas has been playing well last few games in 3-5-2. It's a good idea and option but we are restricted to playing it full time with such weak full backs and our 3rd mid having to be Bakayoko/Daniel Drinkwater. It worked vs Newcastle well, but I think Conte for instance, for this game, could have started Pedro from the start in a 3-4-3, carry on with his Bakayoko and Kante partnership which was no doubt the plan at the start of the season. It would also suit Baka better than the pseudo-forward positions he sometimes finds himself in in the current system. I beliebe at the start of the season hisnorihinal impressive performances was in a 3-4-3?

comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
I don’t get why Conte changed a system that won him 30 league games last season. I can understand it to an extent against the bigger sides but not against the likes of West Ham.
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To try and accommodate Fabregas would be my guess!
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Is that necessary though? It wasn’t last season

This formation only seems to work for us against decent teams, congesting the middle prevents us from playing completely on the counter attack against them. But as we saw today against lesser sides it encounters them to sit in, making us rely on individual brilliance from Fabregas, Hazard & Morata.

I suspect this may be Conte not trusting Bakayoko yet, as he'd be the natural fit alongside Kante in a two man midfield. Which is fair enough tbh.

I'd love to know bluethruandthru's thoughts on this game. Wonder if he still believes possession is everything.

Conte likes his defensive midfielders a bit too much.

comment by (Kash) I'm the Mané, I'm the Mané - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 44 minutes ago
Conte likes his defensive midfielders a bit too much.
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Trying to play Fabregas too often is what he can be accused of wrongly doing.

We are still creating enough chances to win these matches though. If Morata scores that chance today it's a different game and I think we would of went on to win the game today.

Been saying that for weeks...pedro needs to start