comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 44 minutes ago
It's refreshing to see Hazard not in a top 5. Should he be on there as much as say, Mahrez?
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Was very close to including Mahrez tbh.
I find Hazard blows hot and cold and slightly overated.. just my opinion though
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 20 minutes ago
so you haven't got second best player of last season, or azpilicueta in your listssome people
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Nope, I've based it on this season and for the reason above Hazard doesn't get in.
I thought Azpi was a full back or is he playing central now? I've not done a full back list.
doesn't matter. Azpi and alder and the best two defenders in the leauge
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 15 minutes ago
Son with his 32 goals over a season and half is a worthy top five winger over the all singing all dancing Mane with just the 22 goals over the same period. Although going by the media you would think it would be the other way around.
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Forgot Gazzaniga in the GK list
Hazards been exceptional this season, just not been in the goals.
And if your basing it on this season how is toby in your top 5 defenders?
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
Hazards been exceptional this season, just not been in the goals.
And if your basing it on this season how is toby in your top 5 defenders?
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No need to get bent out of shape because I haven't included Hazard
Toby is a boss
But he hasn't played enough to warrant anything this season.
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by NotSoMagicJuande (U1913)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 8 minutes ago
OP
Is this top 5 for this season or in general...like based on talent?
Including or excluding form?
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Yeah I was wondering this.
You can't say Son or Dele are better than Silva or Hazard, unless you're talking about the last few weeks.
What's the time period?
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Premier League season 2016-17:
Eden Hazard: 16 goals and 5 assists in 3005 minutes played.
Son Heung Min: 14 goals and 9 assists in 2066 minutes played.
This season so far:
Son: 8 goals and 4 assists
Hazard: 6 goals and 2 assists
Maybe you can?
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Good reply
I suppose I'm thinking that Hazard in form you could argue is world class. Son hasn't quite hit that level yet.
But yeah, stats are certainly comparable
And for all of Spurs great defence, they've only conceded 7 less goals than us this season.
comment by Sonny Eriksen (U21663)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
Hazards been exceptional this season, just not been in the goals.
And if your basing it on this season how is toby in your top 5 defenders?
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No need to get bent out of shape because I haven't included Hazard
Toby is a boss
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opposing view = bent out of shape?
Strange. You said your basing it on this season yet included toby.
Again strange.
Hazard gets fouled once a minute all match every match. Sides take turns fouling him so no one gets a red but half the squad gets a yellow.
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 0... (U2720)
posted 4 minutes ago
Good ol stats.
Now I know why Pogba made the list.
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https://twitter.com/Gilly0151/status/953171799981920256
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To be fair would it be that much different to the season Gerrard scored 13 goals and got 14 assists, when SSS were in front of him? 10 of his goals were penalties that season.
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I really complained about Gerrard's defensive positioning that season but without his & Coutinho's quick releases, our forward line wouldn't have performed they way they did.
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There's no getting away from the fact Suarez was the biggest reason you performed so well, with all his goals and assists, and I bet some of Gerrard's assists were very simple ones next to the goals themselves.
But that goal tally is a good comparison if most are penalty kicks.
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 0... (U2720)
posted 4 minutes ago
Good ol stats.
Now I know why Pogba made the list.
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https://twitter.com/Gilly0151/status/953171799981920256
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To be fair would it be that much different to the season Gerrard scored 13 goals and got 14 assists, when SSS were in front of him? 10 of his goals were penalties that season.
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I really complained about Gerrard's defensive positioning that season but without his & Coutinho's quick releases, our forward line wouldn't have performed they way they did.
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There's no getting away from the fact Suarez was the biggest reason you performed so well, with all his goals and assists, and I bet some of Gerrard's assists were very simple ones next to the goals themselves.
But that goal tally is a good comparison if most are penalty kicks.
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Not really. Most of Gerard's assists where from deep and freekicks. That's when he was 35 however. Yeah being our best player Suarez, was the biggest reason, that's usually how it goes.
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
And for all of Spurs great defence, they've only conceded 7 less goals than us this season.
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Yeh but Spurs have had their best central defender and best left back missing most of the season.
You may as well say despite Liverpool having this all singing all dancing attack, they have only scored a few more than Spurs.
Pogba's assists are a joke
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
And for all of Spurs great defence, they've only conceded 7 less goals than us this season.
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Yeh but Spurs have had their best central defender and best left back missing most of the season.
You may as well say despite Liverpool having this all singing all dancing attack, they have only scored a few more than Spurs.
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Missing for most of the season but made the list
In this clear WUMticle are we considering David Silva as an AM or a CM?
Top 5 players in the league (no order)
Kane
Hazard
D. Silva
KDB
DDG
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
And for all of Spurs great defence, they've only conceded 7 less goals than us this season.
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Yeh but Spurs have had their best central defender and best left back missing most of the season.
You may as well say despite Liverpool having this all singing all dancing attack, they have only scored a few more than Spurs.
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Missing for most of the season but made the list
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Bite
comment by Desperate Dier (U6468)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
And for all of Spurs great defence, they've only conceded 7 less goals than us this season.
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Yeh but Spurs have had their best central defender and best left back missing most of the season.
You may as well say despite Liverpool having this all singing all dancing attack, they have only scored a few more than Spurs.
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Missing for most of the season but made the list
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Bite
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Me
GK
De Gea
Courtois
Ederson
Lloris
Pickford
LB
Mendy
Rose
Kolasinac
Robertson
Davies
CB
Van Dijk
Alderweireld
Vertonghen
Kompany
Bailly
RB
Walker
Azpilicueta
Aurier
Trippier
Valencia
CM
Pogba
KDB
Kante
Fernandinho
Matic
LW
Sanchez
Hazard
Sane
Mane
Son
AM
D.Silva
Eriksen
B.Silva
Alli
Lanzini
RW
Salah
Sterling
Mahrez
Zaha
Lingard
FW
Kane
Aguero
Firmino
Jesus
Vardy
Honourable mention to Martial who i couldn't fit in because he's stuck between 2 positions.
comment by RonaldVilliers (U21490)
posted 3 minutes ago
GK
De Gea
Courtois
Ederson
Lloris
Pickford
LB
Mendy
Rose
Kolasinac
Robertson
Davies
CB
Van Dijk
Alderweireld
Vertonghen
Kompany
Bailly
RB
Walker
Azpilicueta
Aurier
Trippier
Valencia
CM
Pogba
KDB
Kante
Fernandinho
Matic
LW
Sanchez
Hazard
Sane
Mane
Son
AM
D.Silva
Eriksen
B.Silva
Alli
Lanzini
RW
Salah
Sterling
Mahrez
Zaha
Lingard
FW
Kane
Aguero
Firmino
Jesus
Vardy
Honourable mention to Martial who i couldn't fit in because he's stuck between 2 positions.
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Left back and right back?
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 29 minutes ago
In this clear WUMticle are we considering David Silva as an AM or a CM?
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Ok I actually forgot Silva, he goes in second place and Pogba drops out.
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 8 seconds ago
Full backs (in no order):
Azpilacueta - plays CB in a 3 now doesn't he?
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Dunno but he was a full back not so long ago
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Youngs also been better then Valencia this year?
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posted on 18/1/18
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 44 minutes ago
It's refreshing to see Hazard not in a top 5. Should he be on there as much as say, Mahrez?
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Was very close to including Mahrez tbh.
I find Hazard blows hot and cold and slightly overated.. just my opinion though
posted on 18/1/18
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 20 minutes ago
so you haven't got second best player of last season, or azpilicueta in your listssome people
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Nope, I've based it on this season and for the reason above Hazard doesn't get in.
I thought Azpi was a full back or is he playing central now? I've not done a full back list.
posted on 18/1/18
doesn't matter. Azpi and alder and the best two defenders in the leauge
posted on 18/1/18
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 15 minutes ago
Son with his 32 goals over a season and half is a worthy top five winger over the all singing all dancing Mane with just the 22 goals over the same period. Although going by the media you would think it would be the other way around.
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posted on 18/1/18
Forgot Gazzaniga in the GK list
posted on 18/1/18
Hazards been exceptional this season, just not been in the goals.
And if your basing it on this season how is toby in your top 5 defenders?
posted on 18/1/18
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
Hazards been exceptional this season, just not been in the goals.
And if your basing it on this season how is toby in your top 5 defenders?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No need to get bent out of shape because I haven't included Hazard
Toby is a boss
posted on 18/1/18
But he hasn't played enough to warrant anything this season.
posted on 18/1/18
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by NotSoMagicJuande (U1913)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 8 minutes ago
OP
Is this top 5 for this season or in general...like based on talent?
Including or excluding form?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah I was wondering this.
You can't say Son or Dele are better than Silva or Hazard, unless you're talking about the last few weeks.
What's the time period?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Premier League season 2016-17:
Eden Hazard: 16 goals and 5 assists in 3005 minutes played.
Son Heung Min: 14 goals and 9 assists in 2066 minutes played.
This season so far:
Son: 8 goals and 4 assists
Hazard: 6 goals and 2 assists
Maybe you can?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good reply
I suppose I'm thinking that Hazard in form you could argue is world class. Son hasn't quite hit that level yet.
But yeah, stats are certainly comparable
posted on 18/1/18
And for all of Spurs great defence, they've only conceded 7 less goals than us this season.
posted on 18/1/18
comment by Sonny Eriksen (U21663)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
Hazards been exceptional this season, just not been in the goals.
And if your basing it on this season how is toby in your top 5 defenders?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No need to get bent out of shape because I haven't included Hazard
Toby is a boss
----------------------------------------------------------------------
opposing view = bent out of shape?
Strange. You said your basing it on this season yet included toby.
Again strange.
posted on 18/1/18
Hazard gets fouled once a minute all match every match. Sides take turns fouling him so no one gets a red but half the squad gets a yellow.
posted on 18/1/18
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 0... (U2720)
posted 4 minutes ago
Good ol stats.
Now I know why Pogba made the list.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://twitter.com/Gilly0151/status/953171799981920256
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair would it be that much different to the season Gerrard scored 13 goals and got 14 assists, when SSS were in front of him? 10 of his goals were penalties that season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I really complained about Gerrard's defensive positioning that season but without his & Coutinho's quick releases, our forward line wouldn't have performed they way they did.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's no getting away from the fact Suarez was the biggest reason you performed so well, with all his goals and assists, and I bet some of Gerrard's assists were very simple ones next to the goals themselves.
But that goal tally is a good comparison if most are penalty kicks.
posted on 18/1/18
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 0... (U2720)
posted 4 minutes ago
Good ol stats.
Now I know why Pogba made the list.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://twitter.com/Gilly0151/status/953171799981920256
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair would it be that much different to the season Gerrard scored 13 goals and got 14 assists, when SSS were in front of him? 10 of his goals were penalties that season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I really complained about Gerrard's defensive positioning that season but without his & Coutinho's quick releases, our forward line wouldn't have performed they way they did.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's no getting away from the fact Suarez was the biggest reason you performed so well, with all his goals and assists, and I bet some of Gerrard's assists were very simple ones next to the goals themselves.
But that goal tally is a good comparison if most are penalty kicks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not really. Most of Gerard's assists where from deep and freekicks. That's when he was 35 however. Yeah being our best player Suarez, was the biggest reason, that's usually how it goes.
posted on 18/1/18
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
And for all of Spurs great defence, they've only conceded 7 less goals than us this season.
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Yeh but Spurs have had their best central defender and best left back missing most of the season.
You may as well say despite Liverpool having this all singing all dancing attack, they have only scored a few more than Spurs.
posted on 18/1/18
Pogba's assists are a joke
posted on 18/1/18
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
And for all of Spurs great defence, they've only conceded 7 less goals than us this season.
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Yeh but Spurs have had their best central defender and best left back missing most of the season.
You may as well say despite Liverpool having this all singing all dancing attack, they have only scored a few more than Spurs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Missing for most of the season but made the list
posted on 18/1/18
In this clear WUMticle are we considering David Silva as an AM or a CM?
posted on 18/1/18
Top 5 players in the league (no order)
Kane
Hazard
D. Silva
KDB
DDG
posted on 18/1/18
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
And for all of Spurs great defence, they've only conceded 7 less goals than us this season.
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Yeh but Spurs have had their best central defender and best left back missing most of the season.
You may as well say despite Liverpool having this all singing all dancing attack, they have only scored a few more than Spurs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Missing for most of the season but made the list
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bite
posted on 18/1/18
comment by Desperate Dier (U6468)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
And for all of Spurs great defence, they've only conceded 7 less goals than us this season.
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Yeh but Spurs have had their best central defender and best left back missing most of the season.
You may as well say despite Liverpool having this all singing all dancing attack, they have only scored a few more than Spurs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Missing for most of the season but made the list
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bite
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Me
posted on 18/1/18
GK
De Gea
Courtois
Ederson
Lloris
Pickford
LB
Mendy
Rose
Kolasinac
Robertson
Davies
CB
Van Dijk
Alderweireld
Vertonghen
Kompany
Bailly
RB
Walker
Azpilicueta
Aurier
Trippier
Valencia
CM
Pogba
KDB
Kante
Fernandinho
Matic
LW
Sanchez
Hazard
Sane
Mane
Son
AM
D.Silva
Eriksen
B.Silva
Alli
Lanzini
RW
Salah
Sterling
Mahrez
Zaha
Lingard
FW
Kane
Aguero
Firmino
Jesus
Vardy
Honourable mention to Martial who i couldn't fit in because he's stuck between 2 positions.
posted on 18/1/18
comment by RonaldVilliers (U21490)
posted 3 minutes ago
GK
De Gea
Courtois
Ederson
Lloris
Pickford
LB
Mendy
Rose
Kolasinac
Robertson
Davies
CB
Van Dijk
Alderweireld
Vertonghen
Kompany
Bailly
RB
Walker
Azpilicueta
Aurier
Trippier
Valencia
CM
Pogba
KDB
Kante
Fernandinho
Matic
LW
Sanchez
Hazard
Sane
Mane
Son
AM
D.Silva
Eriksen
B.Silva
Alli
Lanzini
RW
Salah
Sterling
Mahrez
Zaha
Lingard
FW
Kane
Aguero
Firmino
Jesus
Vardy
Honourable mention to Martial who i couldn't fit in because he's stuck between 2 positions.
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Left back and right back?
posted on 18/1/18
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 29 minutes ago
In this clear WUMticle are we considering David Silva as an AM or a CM?
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Ok I actually forgot Silva, he goes in second place and Pogba drops out.
posted on 18/1/18
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 8 seconds ago
Full backs (in no order):
Azpilacueta - plays CB in a 3 now doesn't he?
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Dunno but he was a full back not so long ago
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Youngs also been better then Valencia this year?
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