Is it true Khan didn’t have those cupping marks at the weigh in?
it would be a shame if Brook goes out with a loss against Eubank whose nowhere near his level. He hasn't had that many big fights and big pay days though so I'd understand it. De gale did the same against Jr when he was totally shot, would've been an easy fight for him in his prime.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted less than a minute ago
it would be a shame if Brook goes out with a loss against Eubank whose nowhere near his level. He hasn't had that many big fights and big pay days though so I'd understand it. De gale did the same against Jr when he was totally shot, would've been an easy fight for him in his prime.
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Eubank v Kell would be a big fight, imagine if Kell beats him though? 👀
I'd be very interested to see Brook vs Eubank but not at 160. Kell's only ever fought there once against Golovkin and it was clearly too big a jump up for him. It would need to be at a fair catch-weight.
Kell's comfortable at 154 even if he's mainly fought at welter so fighting at about 156 or 157 max is where I'd want to see them fight. Whether Eubank agrees to go down three or four pounds is the question. He said post fight he wouldn't go lower than 158.
I personally don't want to see Brook vs Eubank Jr because it won't be a competitive fight. Jr is far too fresh and durable for Brook and that's one fight where I could see Brook suffering some serious injuries.
I think it would be a very competitive fight, one is 33 the other is 35. Albeit one's been more active although Brook's just come off a big win so his inactivity isn't really a major factor now. Only question would be what weight to make the fight fair. 160 wouldn't be fair imo.
155 and eubank gets battered
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comment by Superb - King Kell Brook (U6486)
posted about 12 hours ago
I think it would be a very competitive fight, one is 33 the other is 35. Albeit one's been more active although Brook's just come off a big win so his inactivity isn't really a major factor now. Only question would be what weight to make the fight fair. 160 wouldn't be fair imo.
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Jr beats him and hurts him badly. 160 or 158lbs is fair. Brook has fought at 160 before and Jr has fought at 168lbs so, 158 is fair.
comment by Andy Carrot (U2440)
posted about an hour ago
155 and eubank gets battered
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Eubank can't make 155. He's already shredded at 160.
comment by Big Stan: He's Done It Again! (U3245)
posted 19 minutes ago
dont know why people hype eubank so much? the guy is a really poor boxer. got good power but is wild with it. a decent technician would beat him, as has been shown before in the past
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I don't think anyone hypes Jr up. He's an ok boxer, certainly not a top level one but his physical attributes make him a tough fight for anyone. His conditioning is great, his chin is iron, he has good speed and he will never quit. His style won't age well but whilst he's young, he's going to give anyone a good fight.
I think people are blowing Brooks win out of proportion, in my opinion. It was a big win in terms of Brooks record and legacy but it didn't prove anything in regards of the rest of the divisions. Khan was so shot, it made Brook look even better but I saw a few things that lead me to believe that Brook would still get hurt against any good fighter. Who can he genuinely beat at 147, Spence,Crawford,Ugas,Ortiz,Ennis?
I think he should retire but if he wants to have one last fight, maybe a Keith Thurman or Danny Garcia in Sheffield
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 11 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Superb - King Kell Brook (U6486)
posted about 12 hours ago
I think it would be a very competitive fight, one is 33 the other is 35. Albeit one's been more active although Brook's just come off a big win so his inactivity isn't really a major factor now. Only question would be what weight to make the fight fair. 160 wouldn't be fair imo.
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Jr beats him and hurts him badly. 160 or 158lbs is fair. Brook has fought at 160 before and Jr has fought at 168lbs so, 158 is fair.
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Brook's fought only once at 160 in a fight that never should have happened against Golovkin. And he looked like what he was which is a welterweight/super welterweight jumping up to middleweight.
No chance should the fight be at 160. Kell's had a couple of fights at 154 but he's mainly been a welterweight.
And you said that Khan would beat Brook so I'll take your prediction that Eubank hurts Brook badly with a pinch of salt mate.
Brook has fought at 160. Eubank Jr has never fought below 160. On this basis, it should be 160-158lbs.
As for my predictions, yes I got it wrong but that's what happens in boxing, things don't always play out the way you think. I'm pretty sure all the pundits and bookies that had predicted a Khan win, would probably admit that too.
Nothing wrong with getting predictions wrong, we all do it, but I think your inner Khan fanboy blinds you a bit when it comes to anything Brook or Khan related mate
Almost zero chance the fight happens at 160. Brook did that once and it was clearly a jump too far. He won't repeat that mistake. Not that Eubank is a patch on Golovkin of course. The only reason Brook fought Triple G is because Eubank didn't want any part of Golovkin and rightly so and he'd have got the same treatment Kell did.
Khan fanboy
I'll repeat it again. Brook has made 160 before, so it makes sense to have the fight at 160-158. I don't care why he took the Golovkin fight, the fact remains he did and he made the weight and in all honesty, he done better than many expected. Eubank Jr has NEVER made anything below 160, so to ask him to come down to 154 or 155 is not only unfair but it's unrealistic. Look at Jr, he's already ripped to shreds at 160, he'd have to cut off a leg to make anything below it.
As I said, I think Brook is done at the top level and he should retire on a high point. But unfortunately boxers allow their egos to rule them and always end up coming back for the money. Hopefully Brook has good people around him that encourage him to make the right decision.
Brook isn't going to compete against Spence or Crawford. He is done at world level.
Eubank is just a final pay day.
I reckon one final payday against Eubank or Benn. The Eubank fight is easier to make, as both are with Sky. Benn might be a trickier negotiation.
I can't see Brook winning either but he'll have a better chance against Benn than Jr.
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
Khan fanboy
I'll repeat it again. Brook has made 160 before, so it makes sense to have the fight at 160-158. I don't care why he took the Golovkin fight, the fact remains he did and he made the weight and in all honesty, he done better than many expected. Eubank Jr has NEVER made anything below 160, so to ask him to come down to 154 or 155 is not only unfair but it's unrealistic. Look at Jr, he's already ripped to shreds at 160, he'd have to cut off a leg to make anything below it.
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Then the fight won't happen as there's no way Kell is going to fight Eubank at 160. Kell learned that he's no middleweight against GGG and after beating Khan he's now holding the cards and goes into a fight with Eubank as the A side. If Eubank wants the fight then he'll have to go down in weight otherwise he can do something else like try to actually win a world title. Something he's yet to do.
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 23 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Big Stan: He's Done It Again! (U3245)
posted 19 minutes ago
dont know why people hype eubank so much? the guy is a really poor boxer. got good power but is wild with it. a decent technician would beat him, as has been shown before in the past
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I don't think anyone hypes Jr up. He's an ok boxer, certainly not a top level one but his physical attributes make him a tough fight for anyone. His conditioning is great, his chin is iron, he has good speed and he will never quit. His style won't age well but whilst he's young, he's going to give anyone a good fight.
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Athleticism isn't a substitute for boxing ability, put Jr up against any top level figher and he won't do anything. Embarrassed himself against Groves and was a passenger against BJS. He looks amazing shadow boxing or smashing up a punching bag though
Whyte finally signs the Fury deal for 20% of the purse.
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted about 3 hours ago
Whyte finally signs the Fury deal for 20% of the purse.
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Looking forward to the fight.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted about 6 hours ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 23 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Big Stan: He's Done It Again! (U3245)
posted 19 minutes ago
dont know why people hype eubank so much? the guy is a really poor boxer. got good power but is wild with it. a decent technician would beat him, as has been shown before in the past
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I don't think anyone hypes Jr up. He's an ok boxer, certainly not a top level one but his physical attributes make him a tough fight for anyone. His conditioning is great, his chin is iron, he has good speed and he will never quit. His style won't age well but whilst he's young, he's going to give anyone a good fight.
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Athleticism isn't a substitute for boxing ability, put Jr up against any top level figher and he won't do anything. Embarrassed himself against Groves and was a passenger against BJS. He looks amazing shadow boxing or smashing up a punching bag though
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Athleticism CAN be a substitute for boxing ability.
Jrs physical attributes cover up the gaps in his skillset. Roy Jones Jrs success was based heavily on his athleticism, just like Amir Khans success was based on his hand speed. Eubank Jr is not a world beater but he will always give guys a tough night. He gave Groves a tough fight and he was far from a passenger against Saunders.
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posted on 20/2/22
Is it true Khan didn’t have those cupping marks at the weigh in?
posted on 20/2/22
it would be a shame if Brook goes out with a loss against Eubank whose nowhere near his level. He hasn't had that many big fights and big pay days though so I'd understand it. De gale did the same against Jr when he was totally shot, would've been an easy fight for him in his prime.
posted on 20/2/22
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted less than a minute ago
it would be a shame if Brook goes out with a loss against Eubank whose nowhere near his level. He hasn't had that many big fights and big pay days though so I'd understand it. De gale did the same against Jr when he was totally shot, would've been an easy fight for him in his prime.
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That’s what he’s after now, money fights and it’s domestic boxing where it’s at right now!
Eubank v Kell would be a big fight, imagine if Kell beats him though? 👀
posted on 20/2/22
I'd be very interested to see Brook vs Eubank but not at 160. Kell's only ever fought there once against Golovkin and it was clearly too big a jump up for him. It would need to be at a fair catch-weight.
Kell's comfortable at 154 even if he's mainly fought at welter so fighting at about 156 or 157 max is where I'd want to see them fight. Whether Eubank agrees to go down three or four pounds is the question. He said post fight he wouldn't go lower than 158.
posted on 20/2/22
I personally don't want to see Brook vs Eubank Jr because it won't be a competitive fight. Jr is far too fresh and durable for Brook and that's one fight where I could see Brook suffering some serious injuries.
posted on 20/2/22
I think it would be a very competitive fight, one is 33 the other is 35. Albeit one's been more active although Brook's just come off a big win so his inactivity isn't really a major factor now. Only question would be what weight to make the fight fair. 160 wouldn't be fair imo.
posted on 21/2/22
155 and eubank gets battered
posted on 21/2/22
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posted on 21/2/22
comment by Superb - King Kell Brook (U6486)
posted about 12 hours ago
I think it would be a very competitive fight, one is 33 the other is 35. Albeit one's been more active although Brook's just come off a big win so his inactivity isn't really a major factor now. Only question would be what weight to make the fight fair. 160 wouldn't be fair imo.
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Jr beats him and hurts him badly. 160 or 158lbs is fair. Brook has fought at 160 before and Jr has fought at 168lbs so, 158 is fair.
posted on 21/2/22
comment by Andy Carrot (U2440)
posted about an hour ago
155 and eubank gets battered
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Eubank can't make 155. He's already shredded at 160.
posted on 21/2/22
comment by Big Stan: He's Done It Again! (U3245)
posted 19 minutes ago
dont know why people hype eubank so much? the guy is a really poor boxer. got good power but is wild with it. a decent technician would beat him, as has been shown before in the past
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I don't think anyone hypes Jr up. He's an ok boxer, certainly not a top level one but his physical attributes make him a tough fight for anyone. His conditioning is great, his chin is iron, he has good speed and he will never quit. His style won't age well but whilst he's young, he's going to give anyone a good fight.
posted on 21/2/22
I think people are blowing Brooks win out of proportion, in my opinion. It was a big win in terms of Brooks record and legacy but it didn't prove anything in regards of the rest of the divisions. Khan was so shot, it made Brook look even better but I saw a few things that lead me to believe that Brook would still get hurt against any good fighter. Who can he genuinely beat at 147, Spence,Crawford,Ugas,Ortiz,Ennis?
I think he should retire but if he wants to have one last fight, maybe a Keith Thurman or Danny Garcia in Sheffield
posted on 21/2/22
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 11 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Superb - King Kell Brook (U6486)
posted about 12 hours ago
I think it would be a very competitive fight, one is 33 the other is 35. Albeit one's been more active although Brook's just come off a big win so his inactivity isn't really a major factor now. Only question would be what weight to make the fight fair. 160 wouldn't be fair imo.
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Jr beats him and hurts him badly. 160 or 158lbs is fair. Brook has fought at 160 before and Jr has fought at 168lbs so, 158 is fair.
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Brook's fought only once at 160 in a fight that never should have happened against Golovkin. And he looked like what he was which is a welterweight/super welterweight jumping up to middleweight.
No chance should the fight be at 160. Kell's had a couple of fights at 154 but he's mainly been a welterweight.
And you said that Khan would beat Brook so I'll take your prediction that Eubank hurts Brook badly with a pinch of salt mate.
posted on 21/2/22
Brook has fought at 160. Eubank Jr has never fought below 160. On this basis, it should be 160-158lbs.
As for my predictions, yes I got it wrong but that's what happens in boxing, things don't always play out the way you think. I'm pretty sure all the pundits and bookies that had predicted a Khan win, would probably admit that too.
posted on 22/2/22
Nothing wrong with getting predictions wrong, we all do it, but I think your inner Khan fanboy blinds you a bit when it comes to anything Brook or Khan related mate
Almost zero chance the fight happens at 160. Brook did that once and it was clearly a jump too far. He won't repeat that mistake. Not that Eubank is a patch on Golovkin of course. The only reason Brook fought Triple G is because Eubank didn't want any part of Golovkin and rightly so and he'd have got the same treatment Kell did.
posted on 22/2/22
Khan fanboy
I'll repeat it again. Brook has made 160 before, so it makes sense to have the fight at 160-158. I don't care why he took the Golovkin fight, the fact remains he did and he made the weight and in all honesty, he done better than many expected. Eubank Jr has NEVER made anything below 160, so to ask him to come down to 154 or 155 is not only unfair but it's unrealistic. Look at Jr, he's already ripped to shreds at 160, he'd have to cut off a leg to make anything below it.
posted on 22/2/22
As I said, I think Brook is done at the top level and he should retire on a high point. But unfortunately boxers allow their egos to rule them and always end up coming back for the money. Hopefully Brook has good people around him that encourage him to make the right decision.
posted on 22/2/22
Same goes for Khan.
posted on 22/2/22
Brook isn't going to compete against Spence or Crawford. He is done at world level.
Eubank is just a final pay day.
posted on 22/2/22
I reckon one final payday against Eubank or Benn. The Eubank fight is easier to make, as both are with Sky. Benn might be a trickier negotiation.
I can't see Brook winning either but he'll have a better chance against Benn than Jr.
posted on 22/2/22
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
Khan fanboy
I'll repeat it again. Brook has made 160 before, so it makes sense to have the fight at 160-158. I don't care why he took the Golovkin fight, the fact remains he did and he made the weight and in all honesty, he done better than many expected. Eubank Jr has NEVER made anything below 160, so to ask him to come down to 154 or 155 is not only unfair but it's unrealistic. Look at Jr, he's already ripped to shreds at 160, he'd have to cut off a leg to make anything below it.
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Then the fight won't happen as there's no way Kell is going to fight Eubank at 160. Kell learned that he's no middleweight against GGG and after beating Khan he's now holding the cards and goes into a fight with Eubank as the A side. If Eubank wants the fight then he'll have to go down in weight otherwise he can do something else like try to actually win a world title. Something he's yet to do.
posted on 22/2/22
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 23 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Big Stan: He's Done It Again! (U3245)
posted 19 minutes ago
dont know why people hype eubank so much? the guy is a really poor boxer. got good power but is wild with it. a decent technician would beat him, as has been shown before in the past
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I don't think anyone hypes Jr up. He's an ok boxer, certainly not a top level one but his physical attributes make him a tough fight for anyone. His conditioning is great, his chin is iron, he has good speed and he will never quit. His style won't age well but whilst he's young, he's going to give anyone a good fight.
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Athleticism isn't a substitute for boxing ability, put Jr up against any top level figher and he won't do anything. Embarrassed himself against Groves and was a passenger against BJS. He looks amazing shadow boxing or smashing up a punching bag though
posted on 22/2/22
Whyte finally signs the Fury deal for 20% of the purse.
posted on 22/2/22
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted about 3 hours ago
Whyte finally signs the Fury deal for 20% of the purse.
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Looking forward to the fight.
posted on 22/2/22
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted about 6 hours ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 23 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Big Stan: He's Done It Again! (U3245)
posted 19 minutes ago
dont know why people hype eubank so much? the guy is a really poor boxer. got good power but is wild with it. a decent technician would beat him, as has been shown before in the past
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I don't think anyone hypes Jr up. He's an ok boxer, certainly not a top level one but his physical attributes make him a tough fight for anyone. His conditioning is great, his chin is iron, he has good speed and he will never quit. His style won't age well but whilst he's young, he's going to give anyone a good fight.
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Athleticism isn't a substitute for boxing ability, put Jr up against any top level figher and he won't do anything. Embarrassed himself against Groves and was a passenger against BJS. He looks amazing shadow boxing or smashing up a punching bag though
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Athleticism CAN be a substitute for boxing ability.
Jrs physical attributes cover up the gaps in his skillset. Roy Jones Jrs success was based heavily on his athleticism, just like Amir Khans success was based on his hand speed. Eubank Jr is not a world beater but he will always give guys a tough night. He gave Groves a tough fight and he was far from a passenger against Saunders.
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