KDB wasn't too young and inconsistent to play at Chelsea, he was sold to Wolfsburg and immediately started performing. The World Cup of the summer before he came back to Chelsea he was considered more important than Hazard for Belgium. It was only 18 months later he went to City.
Not sure I'd class Lukaku as a star player.
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Since we got rid of lukaku, salah and KDB we have won two league titles.
In that time we have spent money on kante, morata and others, hindsight is a wonderful thing but we cannot buy everyone.
Lukaku is pretty crap too. Cech we let go and hes faded.
We've let two players go who we would regret, and won 2 league titles. Pointless article.
comment by 🎼Galv🎼 (U10415)
posted 6 minutes ago
You hoover up a lot of talent and then have no idea how to develop it as you lurch from one manager to the next, You farm them out on loan so no one else can have them.
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Yet somehow in the end our rivals end up having them, the best ones too.
comment by Kunta Kinte Kante Conte (U1641)
posted 14 minutes ago
KDB wasn't too young and inconsistent to play at Chelsea, he was sold to Wolfsburg and immediately started performing. The World Cup of the summer before he came back to Chelsea he was considered more important than Hazard for Belgium. It was only 18 months later he went to City.
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I don’t think so. He wasn’t performing as well as Oscar that season, and when we sold him, the fact that Wolfsburg were the best takers surely speaks volumes. He wasn’t ready at that point, but the Wolfsburg move was what he needed to progress.
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posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Kunta Kinte Kante Conte (U1641)
posted 14 minutes ago
KDB wasn't too young and inconsistent to play at Chelsea, he was sold to Wolfsburg and immediately started performing. The World Cup of the summer before he came back to Chelsea he was considered more important than Hazard for Belgium. It was only 18 months later he went to City.
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I don’t think so. He wasn’t performing as well as Oscar that season, and when we sold him, the fact that Wolfsburg were the best takers surely speaks volumes. He wasn’t ready at that point, but the Wolfsburg move was what he needed to progress.
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How do you know? tell me where you have the stats to say he wasn't performing aswell as oscar?
he started 2 games for us. 2!
Never even given a chance.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 minutes ago
Since we got rid of lukaku, salah and KDB we have won two league titles.
In that time we have spent money on kante, morata and others, hindsight is a wonderful thing but we cannot buy everyone.
Lukaku is pretty crap too. Cech we let go and hes faded.
We've let two players go who we would regret, and won 2 league titles. Pointless article.
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Lukaku ‘crap’ yet he’s better than Morata. The point is there’s no point signing these young players if we cannot figure out the way to successfully integrate them into our team. We may as well just wait and sign them when they’re the finished article, even if it does cost more money.
well we integrated a player who is now the best in the PL, we're playing christensen too, integrating ampadu, azpi, brought in azpi at 22. We can't keep everyone.
So you are saying we should just stop buying any young players and instead spend £100 million on all our signings?
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Kunta Kinte Kante Conte (U1641)
posted 14 minutes ago
KDB wasn't too young and inconsistent to play at Chelsea, he was sold to Wolfsburg and immediately started performing. The World Cup of the summer before he came back to Chelsea he was considered more important than Hazard for Belgium. It was only 18 months later he went to City.
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I don’t think so. He wasn’t performing as well as Oscar that season, and when we sold him, the fact that Wolfsburg were the best takers surely speaks volumes. He wasn’t ready at that point, but the Wolfsburg move was what he needed to progress.
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How do you know? tell me where you have the stats to say he wasn't performing aswell as oscar?
he started 2 games for us. 2!
Never even given a chance.
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Oscar was playing well in that first half of the season KDB was sold (which reminds me, the World Cup mentioned in the original comment was AFTER KDB was sold by Chelsea). There was unfortunately no reason to play KDB above Oscar at that point but he had no patience. Don’t forget we were struggling at times in the first few months of that season as Mourinho tried to find the right balance, so you can’t blame Mourinho for trying to find his best combination rather than focusing on developing KDB.
You buy up all the young talent knowing you'll sell on 99% of them for profit. Roman isn't interested in developing young players for the first team
yes you can, it as all jose's fault really. Look at the difference in oscar and KDB now. It was evident KDB was good in the fleeting apperances he made too.
Had kdb played more we might not have struggled that year like we did. Poor from Jose. very poor.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 33 seconds ago
well we integrated a player who is now the best in the PL, we're playing christensen too, integrating ampadu, azpi, brought in azpi at 22. We can't keep everyone.
So you are saying we should just stop buying any young players and instead spend £100 million on all our signings?
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Salah and KDB were 100m, they were both less than Morata ffs. And yeah, instead of buying these guys when they’re teenager, handling them poorly and piiissing them off in the process, literally giving them a point to prove to Chelsea, why not just do what all our rivals do and wait until they’re ready and then sign them. If Liverpool can afford it, so can we.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 21 seconds ago
You buy up all the young talent knowing you'll sell on 99% of them for profit. Roman isn't interested in developing young players for the first team
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so hazard, ampadu, christensen are not young?
I guess same could be used against utd. Rashford now on the fringes and no other youth players.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 39 seconds ago
You buy up all the young talent knowing you'll sell on 99% of them for profit. Roman isn't interested in developing young players for the first team
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But the profit doesn’t matter if the end result is KDB become city’s best player and Salah becoming Liverpool’s best player. It’s not worth it.
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 33 seconds ago
well we integrated a player who is now the best in the PL, we're playing christensen too, integrating ampadu, azpi, brought in azpi at 22. We can't keep everyone.
So you are saying we should just stop buying any young players and instead spend £100 million on all our signings?
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Salah and KDB were 100m, they were both less than Morata ffs. And yeah, instead of buying these guys when they’re teenager, handling them poorly and piiissing them off in the process, literally giving them a point to prove to Chelsea, why not just do what all our rivals do and wait until they’re ready and then sign them. If Liverpool can afford it, so can we.
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What point are you even trying to make? what an idiot. Biggest idiot i've ever met.
utd bought pogba back for £90 million ffs. Liverpool have wasted tonnes of money. No club is perfect. We've won 2 league titles since they left.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
yes you can, it as all jose's fault really. Look at the difference in oscar and KDB now. It was evident KDB was good in the fleeting apperances he made too.
Had kdb played more we might not have struggled that year like we did. Poor from Jose. very poor.
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What are you actually doing?
i'll tell you what, if city and liverpool win the next 6-7 league titles then I will hold my hands up.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 21 seconds ago
You buy up all the young talent knowing you'll sell on 99% of them for profit. Roman isn't interested in developing young players for the first team
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so hazard, ampadu, christensen are not young?
I guess same could be used against utd. Rashford now on the fringes and no other youth players.
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Don't see how you can misinterpret Pride's comment.
He's hit the nail right on the head.
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
yes you can, it as all jose's fault really. Look at the difference in oscar and KDB now. It was evident KDB was good in the fleeting apperances he made too.
Had kdb played more we might not have struggled that year like we did. Poor from Jose. very poor.
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What are you actually doing?
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You are blaming the club for buying KDB and selling him, something jose done.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 21 seconds ago
You buy up all the young talent knowing you'll sell on 99% of them for profit. Roman isn't interested in developing young players for the first team
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so hazard, ampadu, christensen are not young?
I guess same could be used against utd. Rashford now on the fringes and no other youth players.
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I wasn't knocking it so I don't know why you've bitten. you make a lot of money doing it, not sure what I said that isn't true?
comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 21 seconds ago
You buy up all the young talent knowing you'll sell on 99% of them for profit. Roman isn't interested in developing young players for the first team
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so hazard, ampadu, christensen are not young?
I guess same could be used against utd. Rashford now on the fringes and no other youth players.
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Don't see how you can misinterpret Pride's comment.
He's hit the nail right on the head.
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Chelsea do a great job for young players. Provided second amount of footballers pro contracts after utd I believe.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 33 seconds ago
well we integrated a player who is now the best in the PL, we're playing christensen too, integrating ampadu, azpi, brought in azpi at 22. We can't keep everyone.
So you are saying we should just stop buying any young players and instead spend £100 million on all our signings?
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Salah and KDB were 100m, they were both less than Morata ffs. And yeah, instead of buying these guys when they’re teenager, handling them poorly and piiissing them off in the process, literally giving them a point to prove to Chelsea, why not just do what all our rivals do and wait until they’re ready and then sign them. If Liverpool can afford it, so can we.
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What point are you even trying to make?what an idiot. Biggest idiot i've ever met.
utd bought pogba back for £90 million ffs. Liverpool have wasted tonnes of money. No club is perfect. We've won 2 league titles since they left.
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My point is that what’s the point of buying Salah when he’s like 20 and then letting him go because we don’t develop him properly and then watching Liverpool buy him when he has developed WHEN we could just wait for Salah to develop and outbid Liverpool for him when he’s ready.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
yes you can, it as all jose's fault really. Look at the difference in oscar and KDB now. It was evident KDB was good in the fleeting apperances he made too.
Had kdb played more we might not have struggled that year like we did. Poor from Jose. very poor.
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What are you actually doing?
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You are blaming the club for buying KDB and selling him, something jose done.
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Well no, Mourinho has no authority to sell players, it was still something the club did.
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posted on 16/2/18
KDB wasn't too young and inconsistent to play at Chelsea, he was sold to Wolfsburg and immediately started performing. The World Cup of the summer before he came back to Chelsea he was considered more important than Hazard for Belgium. It was only 18 months later he went to City.
posted on 16/2/18
Not sure I'd class Lukaku as a star player.
posted on 16/2/18
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posted on 16/2/18
Since we got rid of lukaku, salah and KDB we have won two league titles.
In that time we have spent money on kante, morata and others, hindsight is a wonderful thing but we cannot buy everyone.
Lukaku is pretty crap too. Cech we let go and hes faded.
We've let two players go who we would regret, and won 2 league titles. Pointless article.
posted on 16/2/18
comment by 🎼Galv🎼 (U10415)
posted 6 minutes ago
You hoover up a lot of talent and then have no idea how to develop it as you lurch from one manager to the next, You farm them out on loan so no one else can have them.
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Yet somehow in the end our rivals end up having them, the best ones too.
posted on 16/2/18
comment by Kunta Kinte Kante Conte (U1641)
posted 14 minutes ago
KDB wasn't too young and inconsistent to play at Chelsea, he was sold to Wolfsburg and immediately started performing. The World Cup of the summer before he came back to Chelsea he was considered more important than Hazard for Belgium. It was only 18 months later he went to City.
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I don’t think so. He wasn’t performing as well as Oscar that season, and when we sold him, the fact that Wolfsburg were the best takers surely speaks volumes. He wasn’t ready at that point, but the Wolfsburg move was what he needed to progress.
posted on 16/2/18
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Kunta Kinte Kante Conte (U1641)
posted 14 minutes ago
KDB wasn't too young and inconsistent to play at Chelsea, he was sold to Wolfsburg and immediately started performing. The World Cup of the summer before he came back to Chelsea he was considered more important than Hazard for Belgium. It was only 18 months later he went to City.
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I don’t think so. He wasn’t performing as well as Oscar that season, and when we sold him, the fact that Wolfsburg were the best takers surely speaks volumes. He wasn’t ready at that point, but the Wolfsburg move was what he needed to progress.
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How do you know? tell me where you have the stats to say he wasn't performing aswell as oscar?
he started 2 games for us. 2!
Never even given a chance.
posted on 16/2/18
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 minutes ago
Since we got rid of lukaku, salah and KDB we have won two league titles.
In that time we have spent money on kante, morata and others, hindsight is a wonderful thing but we cannot buy everyone.
Lukaku is pretty crap too. Cech we let go and hes faded.
We've let two players go who we would regret, and won 2 league titles. Pointless article.
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Lukaku ‘crap’ yet he’s better than Morata. The point is there’s no point signing these young players if we cannot figure out the way to successfully integrate them into our team. We may as well just wait and sign them when they’re the finished article, even if it does cost more money.
posted on 16/2/18
well we integrated a player who is now the best in the PL, we're playing christensen too, integrating ampadu, azpi, brought in azpi at 22. We can't keep everyone.
So you are saying we should just stop buying any young players and instead spend £100 million on all our signings?
posted on 16/2/18
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posted on 16/2/18
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Kunta Kinte Kante Conte (U1641)
posted 14 minutes ago
KDB wasn't too young and inconsistent to play at Chelsea, he was sold to Wolfsburg and immediately started performing. The World Cup of the summer before he came back to Chelsea he was considered more important than Hazard for Belgium. It was only 18 months later he went to City.
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I don’t think so. He wasn’t performing as well as Oscar that season, and when we sold him, the fact that Wolfsburg were the best takers surely speaks volumes. He wasn’t ready at that point, but the Wolfsburg move was what he needed to progress.
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How do you know? tell me where you have the stats to say he wasn't performing aswell as oscar?
he started 2 games for us. 2!
Never even given a chance.
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Oscar was playing well in that first half of the season KDB was sold (which reminds me, the World Cup mentioned in the original comment was AFTER KDB was sold by Chelsea). There was unfortunately no reason to play KDB above Oscar at that point but he had no patience. Don’t forget we were struggling at times in the first few months of that season as Mourinho tried to find the right balance, so you can’t blame Mourinho for trying to find his best combination rather than focusing on developing KDB.
posted on 16/2/18
You buy up all the young talent knowing you'll sell on 99% of them for profit. Roman isn't interested in developing young players for the first team
posted on 16/2/18
yes you can, it as all jose's fault really. Look at the difference in oscar and KDB now. It was evident KDB was good in the fleeting apperances he made too.
Had kdb played more we might not have struggled that year like we did. Poor from Jose. very poor.
posted on 16/2/18
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 33 seconds ago
well we integrated a player who is now the best in the PL, we're playing christensen too, integrating ampadu, azpi, brought in azpi at 22. We can't keep everyone.
So you are saying we should just stop buying any young players and instead spend £100 million on all our signings?
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Salah and KDB were 100m, they were both less than Morata ffs. And yeah, instead of buying these guys when they’re teenager, handling them poorly and piiissing them off in the process, literally giving them a point to prove to Chelsea, why not just do what all our rivals do and wait until they’re ready and then sign them. If Liverpool can afford it, so can we.
posted on 16/2/18
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 21 seconds ago
You buy up all the young talent knowing you'll sell on 99% of them for profit. Roman isn't interested in developing young players for the first team
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so hazard, ampadu, christensen are not young?
I guess same could be used against utd. Rashford now on the fringes and no other youth players.
posted on 16/2/18
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 39 seconds ago
You buy up all the young talent knowing you'll sell on 99% of them for profit. Roman isn't interested in developing young players for the first team
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But the profit doesn’t matter if the end result is KDB become city’s best player and Salah becoming Liverpool’s best player. It’s not worth it.
posted on 16/2/18
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 33 seconds ago
well we integrated a player who is now the best in the PL, we're playing christensen too, integrating ampadu, azpi, brought in azpi at 22. We can't keep everyone.
So you are saying we should just stop buying any young players and instead spend £100 million on all our signings?
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Salah and KDB were 100m, they were both less than Morata ffs. And yeah, instead of buying these guys when they’re teenager, handling them poorly and piiissing them off in the process, literally giving them a point to prove to Chelsea, why not just do what all our rivals do and wait until they’re ready and then sign them. If Liverpool can afford it, so can we.
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What point are you even trying to make? what an idiot. Biggest idiot i've ever met.
utd bought pogba back for £90 million ffs. Liverpool have wasted tonnes of money. No club is perfect. We've won 2 league titles since they left.
posted on 16/2/18
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
yes you can, it as all jose's fault really. Look at the difference in oscar and KDB now. It was evident KDB was good in the fleeting apperances he made too.
Had kdb played more we might not have struggled that year like we did. Poor from Jose. very poor.
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What are you actually doing?
posted on 16/2/18
i'll tell you what, if city and liverpool win the next 6-7 league titles then I will hold my hands up.
posted on 16/2/18
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 21 seconds ago
You buy up all the young talent knowing you'll sell on 99% of them for profit. Roman isn't interested in developing young players for the first team
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so hazard, ampadu, christensen are not young?
I guess same could be used against utd. Rashford now on the fringes and no other youth players.
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Don't see how you can misinterpret Pride's comment.
He's hit the nail right on the head.
posted on 16/2/18
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
yes you can, it as all jose's fault really. Look at the difference in oscar and KDB now. It was evident KDB was good in the fleeting apperances he made too.
Had kdb played more we might not have struggled that year like we did. Poor from Jose. very poor.
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What are you actually doing?
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You are blaming the club for buying KDB and selling him, something jose done.
posted on 16/2/18
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 21 seconds ago
You buy up all the young talent knowing you'll sell on 99% of them for profit. Roman isn't interested in developing young players for the first team
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so hazard, ampadu, christensen are not young?
I guess same could be used against utd. Rashford now on the fringes and no other youth players.
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I wasn't knocking it so I don't know why you've bitten. you make a lot of money doing it, not sure what I said that isn't true?
posted on 16/2/18
comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 21 seconds ago
You buy up all the young talent knowing you'll sell on 99% of them for profit. Roman isn't interested in developing young players for the first team
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so hazard, ampadu, christensen are not young?
I guess same could be used against utd. Rashford now on the fringes and no other youth players.
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Don't see how you can misinterpret Pride's comment.
He's hit the nail right on the head.
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Chelsea do a great job for young players. Provided second amount of footballers pro contracts after utd I believe.
posted on 16/2/18
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 33 seconds ago
well we integrated a player who is now the best in the PL, we're playing christensen too, integrating ampadu, azpi, brought in azpi at 22. We can't keep everyone.
So you are saying we should just stop buying any young players and instead spend £100 million on all our signings?
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Salah and KDB were 100m, they were both less than Morata ffs. And yeah, instead of buying these guys when they’re teenager, handling them poorly and piiissing them off in the process, literally giving them a point to prove to Chelsea, why not just do what all our rivals do and wait until they’re ready and then sign them. If Liverpool can afford it, so can we.
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What point are you even trying to make?what an idiot. Biggest idiot i've ever met.
utd bought pogba back for £90 million ffs. Liverpool have wasted tonnes of money. No club is perfect. We've won 2 league titles since they left.
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My point is that what’s the point of buying Salah when he’s like 20 and then letting him go because we don’t develop him properly and then watching Liverpool buy him when he has developed WHEN we could just wait for Salah to develop and outbid Liverpool for him when he’s ready.
posted on 16/2/18
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
yes you can, it as all jose's fault really. Look at the difference in oscar and KDB now. It was evident KDB was good in the fleeting apperances he made too.
Had kdb played more we might not have struggled that year like we did. Poor from Jose. very poor.
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What are you actually doing?
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You are blaming the club for buying KDB and selling him, something jose done.
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Well no, Mourinho has no authority to sell players, it was still something the club did.
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