In an alternate universe we don't buy salah, he goes to some other team, and then another and then RM buy him.

I really don't get what world your living in.

Real Madrid didn’t want Salah, Liverpool did! If we hadn’t already screwed up with him two years earlier we could have been the ones signing him last summer. That’s my point.

comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 3 minutes ago
Real Madrid didn’t want Salah, Liverpool did! If we hadn’t already screwed up with him two years earlier we could have been the ones signing him last summer. That’s my point.
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I doubt it. Does anyone know what this guy is on about

So you think we should buy thorgan hazard if he has an outstanding year, otherwise liverpool will?

Looks like Salah fits Pool’s system very well tbf. He improved whilst at Roma, but at Liverpool he has been transformed to a top player. He was given chances at CFC but was considered a flop. Probably he couldn’t live with the pressure at a club like CFC so soon in his career.

Why are you so angry? All I’m saying is that buying these young players without any idea of how to develop them just so we can loan them and sell them for a profit has bitten us in the ass badly with De Bruyne, Salah and Lukaku, so maybe we need to change our approach. That’s it.

comment by Conte'nt = eism (U20893)
posted 24 seconds ago
Looks like Salah fits Pool’s system very well tbf. He improved whilst at Roma, but at Liverpool he has been transformed to a top player. He was given chances at CFC but was considered a flop. Probably he couldn’t live with the pressure at a club like CFC so soon in his career.
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We bought the player too early and handled him poorly. No point buying him early if that’s what’s going to happen.

Unfortunately these players were raw and Jose likes his players well cooked. Short term it worked because he bought a couple of experienced players that help us win the title. But Jose doesn’t do long term never has.

This thread makes just about as much sense as it would on the Ajax or ASEC Mimosa boards.

Only difference is that the profits generated, get a healthy Roman Abramovich stimulus in the market.

I want to stress that De Bruyne is Man City’s very best player and Salah is Liverpool’s very best player as well. And both were at Chelsea in their late teens/early twenties. Not only is that situation where a club has two key rivals, and those two rivals’ best players were both formerly from that club, but it shows we know which players to go for, we just don’t know how to develop and integrate them. So why not skip that part and just buy them when the need to develop isn’t there and integration is thus more easier?

comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 42 seconds ago
This thread makes just about as much sense as it would on the Ajax or ASEC Mimosa boards.

Only difference is that the profits generated, get a healthy Roman Abramovich stimulus in the market.
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comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 42 seconds ago
This thread makes just about as much sense as it would on the Ajax or ASEC Mimosa boards.

Only difference is that the profits generated, get a healthy Roman Abramovich stimulus in the market.
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Sorry, mistake there.

We’re not Ajax or whatever other club that is. We’re a big club who isn’t for progressing players’ careers, we are the club who should have these guys in their primes. At the moment, our role is to sign these players which attracts attention to them since of course signing for Chelsea is a big deal, then that attention means when we end up selling them because we can’t integrate them, they go to a club which is better than their original club but worse than us. They then develop and end up at a club Who is as good as us. Why can’t we skip this middle man bulshiiit and just be the big club who they end up at?

comment by Conte'nt = eism (U20893)
posted 4 minutes ago
Unfortunately these players were raw and Jose likes his players well cooked. Short term it worked because he bought a couple of experienced players that help us win the title. But Jose doesn’t do long term never has.
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Mourinho has no relevance here. Why mention him?

Because this happened when Jose was in charge. He had a say comes in and who goes out.

I’m talking about what Chelsea should do from this point. Buying and selling those players was more to do with the clubs transfer policy than with Mourinho.

Tbf Chelsea have had plenry that have flopped too such as Markovic. When you sign as many players as Chelsea do, there's bound to be a couple that you cant accomodate and end up thriving elsewhere

We will have a cleaer picture on this if the likes of Nathenial Chalobah or solanke end up being world beaters as well.

comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 42 seconds ago
This thread makes just about as much sense as it would on the Ajax or ASEC Mimosa boards.

Only difference is that the profits generated, get a healthy Roman Abramovich stimulus in the market.
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Sorry, mistake there.

We’re not Ajax or whatever other club that is. We’re a big club who isn’t for progressing players’ careers, we are the club who should have these guys in their primes. At the moment, our role is to sign these players which attracts attention to them since of course signing for Chelsea is a big deal, then that attention means when we end up selling them because we can’t integrate them, they go to a club which is better than their original club but worse than us. They then develop and end up at a club Who is as good as us. Why can’t we skip this middle man bulshiiit and just be the big club who they end up at?
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Then you'd still have the added headache of trying to show balanced annual books to UEFA.

As the other posters have said - The Chelsea first team, and the young player farming project have been totally separate endeavours for a number of years now.

Some of the players you moved along just happened to become stars elsewhere.

Hey Whal mate how are you?

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
Hey Whal mate how are you?
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At an all time low by the looks of things

comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
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comment by Erik (U21750)
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comment by Kunta Kinte Kante Conte (U1641)
posted 14 minutes ago
KDB wasn't too young and inconsistent to play at Chelsea, he was sold to Wolfsburg and immediately started performing. The World Cup of the summer before he came back to Chelsea he was considered more important than Hazard for Belgium. It was only 18 months later he went to City.
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I don’t think so. He wasn’t performing as well as Oscar that season, and when we sold him, the fact that Wolfsburg were the best takers surely speaks volumes. He wasn’t ready at that point, but the Wolfsburg move was what he needed to progress.
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How do you know? tell me where you have the stats to say he wasn't performing aswell as oscar?

he started 2 games for us. 2!

Never even given a chance.
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Oscar was playing well in that first half of the season KDB was sold (which reminds me, the World Cup mentioned in the original comment was AFTER KDB was sold by Chelsea). There was unfortunately no reason to play KDB above Oscar at that point but he had no patience. Don’t forget we were struggling at times in the first few months of that season as Mourinho tried to find the right balance, so you can’t blame Mourinho for trying to find his best combination rather than focusing on developing KDB.
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Apologies, I meant World Cup qualifying matches. All I'm saying is..whike there's an argument Salah and Lukaku needed that bit more development with KDB he was ready, and just not given a fair chance. He didn't need more development to be good enough for us.

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
Hey Whal mate how are you?
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At an all time low by the looks of things
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Ah chin up Whal mate I've got your back

I think you're all missing the bleeding obvious. Buy back clauses.

Didn't you have one with Courtois?

Sell the player on but with the choice whether to buy them back in 2-3 years time for a fixed sum of money. And, if you didn't fancy the player, but he has a good sell on value, then buy him and sell him on again.

Gillespie

They shouldn’t be separate policies, we should be prepared to take on the young players who are good enough. The fact is that this polciy has bitten us in the ass worse than it’s benefited us. Given that’s the car, we need to scrap it. For either Man City or Liverpool’s best player to be a former chelsea player is a disgrace, for both of their best players to be former Chelsea players is unacceptable.

I’m not wahl

BK, why wasn’t De Bruyne given a chance then? Or do you think he left too early and wasn’t patient enough?