comment by Just call me Diablo (U21724)
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Kls

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You idiot did I say I hate all Germans?

Thick caaant
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Yet here you are banging on about colonialism!

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You think everyone booed for the same reason?

Do I need to spell it out for you? Suarez’s name was being chanted at Evra following the boo’s. You’re telling me these boo’s were not motivated by the racism case?
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Listen numbnuts. Liverpool fans have always hated Evra, even before the Suarez incident, and Evra has always hated Liverpool. He would have gotten the treatment whether the Suarez incident had happened or not. I’m sure Evra was expecting this, and wasn’t bothered about it anywhere near as much as you were.

So stop being such a bloody drama queen.
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A great example of someone burying their head in the sand so deep they’re sniffing the earths core
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So you think Evra wouldn’t have been booed if the Suarez incident hadn’t happened?
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He would’ve been booed and not had Suarez’s name follow up after, which implies they’re booing him for being racially abused
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Wrong. They were using Suarez’s name to wind him up. This is where you’re getting very confused, adding 2 + 2 and coming up with 3000.
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What would they have to wind him up over apart from the fact he racially abused him?
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You’re completely missing the point. Fans of any team will say what they think will wind a player up. You’re looking far too deeply into this.

"He would’ve been booed and not had Suarez’s name follow up after, which implies they’re booing him for being racially abused"

One of two things, they're showing support of Suarez for the debatable or they agree with what Suarez did, I'd imagine most are the former however considering an inquest took place, that's still a little dense.

I know what blokes are like at the football though.

Kls

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I was providing context of the bigotry against black people

Like I said, you thick in/brrrred caaaant.

😁

Diablo.

You seem to make concessions based on skin colour.

Do you?

I would call out anyone using the N word, regardless of their skin colour.

Kls

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Am I still allowed on your match thread?!

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Quote from that link that really hits home:

"The FA disciplinary commission found that Suarez used the word "negro" seven times, at one point saying: "I don't speak to blacks"."
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What, did he actually say that?!? That is legit racist, How are Liverpool fans angry at evra for anything given that?
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No. The experts stated it wasn't possible for Suarez to have used the words Evra claimed he did as they didn't make sense. Which is interesting as Evra isn't fluent, which shows he made them up. He wasn't able to make up the line so that it made sense and therefore got caught out lying.
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Bollox. The experts involved in the case, including lawyers from both sides said he did. Are you seriously that determined to defend this. Don't forget, your fans booed Evra for this.

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Nonsense.

The FA said that, not the experts. The experts sided with Suarez, saying that Eva's account didn't make sense.
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The experts who were involved in the case allowed the conclusion to say he said he doesn't talk to blacks. Unless you now believe the case itself was wrong (involving Suarez' lawyers don't forget). You seem to go to any length to defend him.

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He didn't say that, Evra tried to make it up but didn't make sense, as the experts stated.

They agreed with Suarez' account.

Given paragraphs 188 and 189, Mr Suarez would not have needed any further sense of
familiarity to use the word "negro", which is to say how well Mr Suarez knew Mr Evra is
not of particular importance; in Rioplatense Spanish the use of "negro" as described here
by Mr Suarez would not be offensive. Indeed, it is possible that the term was intended as
an attempt at conciliation and/or to establish rapport (see 175 above).
191. The question "Por qué, negro?" as transcribed in Mr Suarez's interview sounded right
linguistically and culturally and is in line with the use set out by Mr Suarez when
referring to Glen Johnson; Mr Suarez was also correct in highlighting that "negro de
mierda" would be a clear racial slur.
192. The term "sudamericano" [South American] might be offensive for a South American if
taken as an implied slight against a regional identity; a more derogatory insult along these
lines would be the term "sudaca", a term most frequently used in Spain to label South
American immigrants. Though the experts are not familiar with either "sudamericano" or
"South American" being used as an insult, if they were said with a sneer then they might
well be understood as such.
193. As stated above, Mr Suarez's gesture towards Mr Evra's arm is difficult to interpret. In the
context of the events as set out by Mr Suarez then there is nothing to indicate that the
gesture was racially offensive.
194. The experts concluded their observations on Mr Suarez's account as follows. If Mr Suarez
used the word "negro" as described by Mr Suarez, this would not be interpreted as either
offensive or offensive in racial terms in Uruguay and Spanish-speaking America more
generally; it is being used along the lines of paragraphs 172, 173 and 175 above.
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That's great. But what about the actual comment he made about not talking to blacks?

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Are you stupid? The experts stated that comment didn't make sense, he couldn't have said in Spanish, because you are black, the way Evra claimed. Instead Evra got mixed up between the Spanish words for because and why, porque and por que but it couldn't have been because as no native would use it that way. This shows Evra made it up using his broken Spanish.
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What you posted refers to the use of the N word. Doesn't vouch for the other comment.

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Exactly. So essentially they had to decide between what Suarez claimed and what Evra claimed. The experts explained Eva's claim, linguistically, didn't make sense.

Evra changed his account several times, from the n word to negro and about the amount of times the word was used.

The FA had only one way to find Suarez guilty because of what the experts had said and that was to make Suarez unreliable. Which is what they did.

Not surprising considering it was made up of Fergie's mates one of them being a family friend who wrote at length about the family in his autobiography.
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You live in your own little world

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It's not my world, its the evidence given by the experts.

comment by Just call me Diablo (U21724)
posted 21 seconds ago
Kls

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Am I still allowed on your match thread?!
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As long as you aren’t a spurs fan.

comment by Just call me Diablo (U21724)
posted 6 minutes ago
TOOR

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black people often refer to one another using the N word. It's stylised and non whites may cry "double standards". It has less to no derogatory meaning than if it was uttered by an non black i.e. a colonial "master". It's used with an ironic undertone.


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I'm not sure why you're telling me that. Wrong person?

Or is that to racist for you...............

Sid,

Bigotry is wrong. But black people throughout history have been targeted, traded, because of their race.

The point I was trying to make, bigotry against black people is more damning than supposed ones against white people, it's rooted in history.

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Let’s call a spade a spade here. If the shoe was on the other foot United fans and every other fan base in England would do the same.
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Agree

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Or is that to racist for you...............
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🤔

comment by Busby (U19985)
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"He would’ve been booed and not had Suarez’s name follow up after, which implies they’re booing him for being racially abused"

One of two things, they're showing support of Suarez for the debatable or they agree with what Suarez did, I'd imagine most are the former however considering an inquest took place, that's still a little dense.

I know what blokes are like at the football though.
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Or they’re using something they think might affect Evra’s performance, and it’s none of the above?

comment by Just call me Diablo (U21724)
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Or is that to racist for you...............
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Against spurs fans you t!t

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Or is that to racist for you...............
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Against spurs fans you t!t
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It just goes to show that English fans and the F.A can’t take the moral high ground over countries like Russia when you see what happened at Anfield today involving a large percentage of fans. It’s a shame but we still have our own problems.

comment by Just call me Diablo (U21724)
posted 20 minutes ago
Sid,

Bigotry is wrong. But black people throughout history have been targeted, traded, because of their race.

The point I was trying to make, bigotry against black people is more damning than supposed ones against white people, it's rooted in history.
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Interesting use of “supposed”.

You seem to be judging on the severity of racism due to the colour of skin the perpetrator has. I hope I am wrong on that.

That’s indefensible in my opinion.

comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 4 minutes ago
It just goes to show that English fans and the F.A can’t take the moral high ground over countries like Russia when you see what happened at Anfield today involving a large percentage of fans. It’s a shame but we still have our own problems.
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Yeah it's crazy, fans booing a player they hate. They should shut the game down.

Sour grapes because we dumped you into third. The slide begins. Mind the gap.

Sid

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Racism against white people is few and far between. Racism against people of colour is far more widespread and deeply rooted in society otherwise you would not have laws in place, in an attempt to readdress a societal imbalance.

But racism against anyone is bad full stop.

Can we agree on that?

comment by Sid (U1868)
posted 7 minutes ago
But racism against anyone is bad full stop.

Can we agree on that?
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Equal rights to all

Bigotry against none

comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 27 minutes ago
It just goes to show that English fans and the F.A can’t take the moral high ground over countries like Russia when you see what happened at Anfield today involving a large percentage of fans. It’s a shame but we still have our own problems.
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Thick as feck

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posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
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It just goes to show that English fans and the F.A can’t take the moral high ground over countries like Russia when you see what happened at Anfield today involving a large percentage of fans. It’s a shame but we still have our own problems.
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Yeah it's crazy, fans booing a player they hate. They should shut the game down.

Sour grapes because we dumped you into third. The slide begins. Mind the gap.
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Wtf? That’s what went wrong for Liverpool after the actual incident, Liverpool saw it as a Utd Vs Liverpool thing, and the t-shirt disaster happened.

Football is way too tribal when it comes to stuff like this, your comment about the league table proves this.

Today was disgraceful once again from Liverpool fans, and they’ve really embarrassed kickitout.

Suarez could have racially abused Glenn Johnson and they’d still defend him. Such a weird cult they are.