Arsenal 1 - 3 Manchester United
I surprise myself but I have sympathy for the Scouse cant on this one. He was repeatedly goaded by the driver of the car (who was more interested in goading him than concentrating on the road despite having his family in the car). They are both out of order.
Carragher's reaction is understandable and the driver of the car should be prosecuted for public order offenses and driving with undue care and attention or whatever its called now.
yeah, flobbing at people that goad you is acceptable
The dad wasn't rude or abusive it was friendly banter, I'm not usually in favour of calling for people to lose their jobs because of public outrage but spitting is basically on a par with punching someone. I feel for him but he facked up badly and should get sacked.
They’re both idiots. The guy driving with kids in his car should no better than have a go at Cara and film it while driving, and Caragher should have just kept driving and ignored it. You’d think a footballer would have think enough skin by that age and just ignore it. If Cara gets sacked I hope the guy driving while also using his phone gets in trouble, both as bad as each other. But he should no better than to react to it
comment by IanWrightWrightWright (U12750)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
yeah, flobbing at people that goad you is acceptable
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This.
I'm sure Carragher heard worse as a player. Spitting is disgusting. Throw the book at him. He's 40 years old FFS.
comment by IanWrightWrightWright (U12750)
posted 11 hours, 37 minutes ago
yeah, flobbing at people that goad you is acceptable
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Can you show me where anyone has even implied it is acceptable?
This seems to be in response to my comment but I clearly said they are both out of order. The film only shows the last of the 4 times he was reported to shout abuse at Carragher. How the fack do people on here think they know exactly what was said and happened before they started filming. The bloke driving the car was a complete cant for goading someone because of his job. I dont like Carragher but no one deserves repeated abuse.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 10 hours, 11 minutes ago
The dad wasn't rude or abusive it was friendly banter, I'm not usually in favour of calling for people to lose their jobs because of public outrage but spitting is basically on a par with punching someone. I feel for him but he facked up badly and should get sacked.
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Spitting is not on a par with punching someone, with the one exception of if you are deliberately trying to infect them with something. Ask the police. If someone punches them it is assaulting a police officer, but they have to take being spat on as its not assault.
I would react to someone repeatedly shouting abuse at me and I dont blame Carragher for reacting although spitting is disgusting and unacceptable.
Spitting is counted as common assault, I'd have more respect for someone who punched me than spat at me. It was low level banter not abuse, Carragher obviously flipped out and had some rage episode because he would have seen the guy filming anyway. Also the dad shouldn't be using his phone but people talking about putting his daughter in danger, they were crawling in heavy traffic
comment by Dragonite (U17162)
posted 14 hours, 21 minutes ago
Arsenal 1 - 3 Manchester United
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Are u mentally ill?
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 14 hours, 51 minutes ago
The dad wasn't rude or abusive it was friendly banter, I'm not usually in favour of calling for people to lose their jobs because of public outrage but spitting is basically on a par with punching someone. I feel for him but he facked up badly and should get sacked.
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How is it on par with punching someone? Like I get that you shouldn’t spit on someone and it’s disgusting, but I don’t understand why an apology, public embarrassment and some teasing from Gary Neville isn’t sufficient here. Losing a job for this is just insane to me.
The reasoning he should keep his job is that it's out of character and he's really sorry but that shouldn't make a difference, if someone was racist or some other kind of abuse or violence it wouldn't matter how out of character or sorry they were. Spitting is one of the lowest things, having someone's gob on you is nasty and just a coward thing to do. If he keeps his job I won't be annoyed or anything but it's a lot worse than what Keys and Gray got sacked for.
But spitting isn’t on par with racism or abuse or violence.... its much less worse. Yes It’s disgusting, cowardly maybe as well, but Its totally harmless in the end of the day.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 53 minutes ago
The reasoning he should keep his job is that it's out of character and he's really sorry but that shouldn't make a difference, if someone was racist or some other kind of abuse or violence it wouldn't matter how out of character or sorry they were. Spitting is one of the lowest things, having someone's gob on you is nasty and just a coward thing to do. If he keeps his job I won't be annoyed or anything but it's a lot worse than what Keys and Gray got sacked for.
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If that spit had landed in her eyes it could have blinded her.
comment by WengersNearlyMen (U5041)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 53 minutes ago
The reasoning he should keep his job is that it's out of character and he's really sorry but that shouldn't make a difference, if someone was racist or some other kind of abuse or violence it wouldn't matter how out of character or sorry they were. Spitting is one of the lowest things, having someone's gob on you is nasty and just a coward thing to do. If he keeps his job I won't be annoyed or anything but it's a lot worse than what Keys and Gray got sacked for.
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If that spit had landed in her eyes it could have blinded her.
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If every player who spits, or blows his nose, on the pitch during a game was fired then there would be a lot fewer players.
Nasty and disgusting action on Carragher's part, but who really knows what type of conduct was directed toward him? And he did apologize didn't he.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 12 hours, 35 minutes ago
Spitting is counted as common assault, I'd have more respect for someone who punched me than spat at me. It was low level banter not abuse, Carragher obviously flipped out and had some rage episode because he would have seen the guy filming anyway. Also the dad shouldn't be using his phone but people talking about putting his daughter in danger, they were crawling in heavy traffic
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The whole episode wasnt filmed. I have seen nothing disputing that he shouted 4 separate times at Carragher but only the last of the four was shown in the filming of it. He had already been winding Carragher up before they started filming and we have no way of knowing what was said. What we do know is it was bad enough to push Carragher to spit at them.
Given his fulsome apology I don't think he should be sacked - he's been suspended and shamed and I think that's enough - even the family involved think it's enough.
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posted on 12/3/18
Arsenal 1 - 3 Manchester United
posted on 12/3/18
I surprise myself but I have sympathy for the Scouse cant on this one. He was repeatedly goaded by the driver of the car (who was more interested in goading him than concentrating on the road despite having his family in the car). They are both out of order.
Carragher's reaction is understandable and the driver of the car should be prosecuted for public order offenses and driving with undue care and attention or whatever its called now.
posted on 12/3/18
yeah, flobbing at people that goad you is acceptable
posted on 12/3/18
The dad wasn't rude or abusive it was friendly banter, I'm not usually in favour of calling for people to lose their jobs because of public outrage but spitting is basically on a par with punching someone. I feel for him but he facked up badly and should get sacked.
posted on 13/3/18
They’re both idiots. The guy driving with kids in his car should no better than have a go at Cara and film it while driving, and Caragher should have just kept driving and ignored it. You’d think a footballer would have think enough skin by that age and just ignore it. If Cara gets sacked I hope the guy driving while also using his phone gets in trouble, both as bad as each other. But he should no better than to react to it
posted on 13/3/18
comment by IanWrightWrightWright (U12750)
posted 8 hours, 58 minutes ago
yeah, flobbing at people that goad you is acceptable
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This.
posted on 13/3/18
I'm sure Carragher heard worse as a player. Spitting is disgusting. Throw the book at him. He's 40 years old FFS.
posted on 13/3/18
comment by IanWrightWrightWright (U12750)
posted 11 hours, 37 minutes ago
yeah, flobbing at people that goad you is acceptable
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Can you show me where anyone has even implied it is acceptable?
This seems to be in response to my comment but I clearly said they are both out of order. The film only shows the last of the 4 times he was reported to shout abuse at Carragher. How the fack do people on here think they know exactly what was said and happened before they started filming. The bloke driving the car was a complete cant for goading someone because of his job. I dont like Carragher but no one deserves repeated abuse.
posted on 13/3/18
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 10 hours, 11 minutes ago
The dad wasn't rude or abusive it was friendly banter, I'm not usually in favour of calling for people to lose their jobs because of public outrage but spitting is basically on a par with punching someone. I feel for him but he facked up badly and should get sacked.
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Spitting is not on a par with punching someone, with the one exception of if you are deliberately trying to infect them with something. Ask the police. If someone punches them it is assaulting a police officer, but they have to take being spat on as its not assault.
I would react to someone repeatedly shouting abuse at me and I dont blame Carragher for reacting although spitting is disgusting and unacceptable.
posted on 13/3/18
Spitting is counted as common assault, I'd have more respect for someone who punched me than spat at me. It was low level banter not abuse, Carragher obviously flipped out and had some rage episode because he would have seen the guy filming anyway. Also the dad shouldn't be using his phone but people talking about putting his daughter in danger, they were crawling in heavy traffic
posted on 13/3/18
comment by Dragonite (U17162)
posted 14 hours, 21 minutes ago
Arsenal 1 - 3 Manchester United
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Are u mentally ill?
posted on 13/3/18
He should be sacked ASAP
posted on 13/3/18
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 14 hours, 51 minutes ago
The dad wasn't rude or abusive it was friendly banter, I'm not usually in favour of calling for people to lose their jobs because of public outrage but spitting is basically on a par with punching someone. I feel for him but he facked up badly and should get sacked.
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How is it on par with punching someone? Like I get that you shouldn’t spit on someone and it’s disgusting, but I don’t understand why an apology, public embarrassment and some teasing from Gary Neville isn’t sufficient here. Losing a job for this is just insane to me.
posted on 13/3/18
The reasoning he should keep his job is that it's out of character and he's really sorry but that shouldn't make a difference, if someone was racist or some other kind of abuse or violence it wouldn't matter how out of character or sorry they were. Spitting is one of the lowest things, having someone's gob on you is nasty and just a coward thing to do. If he keeps his job I won't be annoyed or anything but it's a lot worse than what Keys and Gray got sacked for.
posted on 13/3/18
But spitting isn’t on par with racism or abuse or violence.... its much less worse. Yes It’s disgusting, cowardly maybe as well, but Its totally harmless in the end of the day.
posted on 13/3/18
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 53 minutes ago
The reasoning he should keep his job is that it's out of character and he's really sorry but that shouldn't make a difference, if someone was racist or some other kind of abuse or violence it wouldn't matter how out of character or sorry they were. Spitting is one of the lowest things, having someone's gob on you is nasty and just a coward thing to do. If he keeps his job I won't be annoyed or anything but it's a lot worse than what Keys and Gray got sacked for.
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If that spit had landed in her eyes it could have blinded her.
posted on 13/3/18
comment by WengersNearlyMen (U5041)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 53 minutes ago
The reasoning he should keep his job is that it's out of character and he's really sorry but that shouldn't make a difference, if someone was racist or some other kind of abuse or violence it wouldn't matter how out of character or sorry they were. Spitting is one of the lowest things, having someone's gob on you is nasty and just a coward thing to do. If he keeps his job I won't be annoyed or anything but it's a lot worse than what Keys and Gray got sacked for.
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If that spit had landed in her eyes it could have blinded her.
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If every player who spits, or blows his nose, on the pitch during a game was fired then there would be a lot fewer players.
Nasty and disgusting action on Carragher's part, but who really knows what type of conduct was directed toward him? And he did apologize didn't he.
posted on 13/3/18
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 12 hours, 35 minutes ago
Spitting is counted as common assault, I'd have more respect for someone who punched me than spat at me. It was low level banter not abuse, Carragher obviously flipped out and had some rage episode because he would have seen the guy filming anyway. Also the dad shouldn't be using his phone but people talking about putting his daughter in danger, they were crawling in heavy traffic
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The whole episode wasnt filmed. I have seen nothing disputing that he shouted 4 separate times at Carragher but only the last of the four was shown in the filming of it. He had already been winding Carragher up before they started filming and we have no way of knowing what was said. What we do know is it was bad enough to push Carragher to spit at them.
posted on 13/3/18
Given his fulsome apology I don't think he should be sacked - he's been suspended and shamed and I think that's enough - even the family involved think it's enough.
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