Mayweather played by the rules, Ortiz tried the illegal headbut... Some people are just blinded by hatred. It was clear that Cortez started the fight and then looked away, it was his fault and Ortiz should of been protecting himself.

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comment by Mufcalex (U9730)
posted 5 minutes ago
Mayweather played by the rules, Ortiz tried the illegal headbut... Some people are just blinded by hatred. It was clear that Cortez started the fight and then looked away, it was his fault and Ortiz should of been protecting himself.

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Sorry my friend but 2 wrongs dont make a right, this is the worst excuse i have ever seen and the fact that you are trying to defending him beggars belief, Ortiz done a head butt and was punished for it. Again Mayweather shows his true colours.

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Simon West the fact is that Mayweather played by the rules, Ortiz didnt.

Ok my friend continue to defend him - cos i dunno about you but the biggest rule i follow is sportsmanship, and this is what people watch sport for. I wont argue he followed rules but the way in which he followed the rules was from a sportsman myself was pathetic, but hey that is just me

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not seen the fight yet... what happened pls?

Its like Nani's goal against Gomes last year, partly the refs fault and Gomes fault , same with the boxing. Mayweather did nothing wrong.

but what did he do pls?

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Thanks Scribe..looking forward to watching the fight later

Miguel Cotto up next for Mayweather I bet

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1- Ortiz trainer warned the ref about Floyd being dirty
2- Mayweather was taking Ortiz to school with ease in the first 4 rounds
3 - Ortiz couldnt touch Mayweather who was constantly smiling
4 - Ortiz got frustrated so he headbutted him
5 - Ortiz tried to continue throwing punches after he headbuttedmFloyd
6 - Ortiz plan didnt work and he new he was gonna suffer a longer beatdown so all red-faced he tried to suck up to Floyd
7- What goes around comes around, Floyd abided by the rules, kept his guard up and knocked the dirty little **** out.
8 - Not the hardest of KO's and he said Berto was a harder hitter yet he could not get up from the 10 count against Floyd
9 - That shows Ortiz threw in the towel and gave up! (LIKE HE HAS BEFORE)
10 - Floyd is the biggest belt in boxing!

So now he has shown what a dirty fighter he is do you reckon he may now man up and decide to fight someone decent, for example pacman?
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Will pacman man up and take the tests???? A mandatory procedure in most other sports

Gave Ortiz a masterclass in the sweet science untill Ortiz started fighting dirty, then gave his a masterclass in fighting dirty

Manny has agreed to take the drugs test which is mandatory. He has agreed to go along with the rules of the boxing organisations… he just hasn’t agreed to the extra test Mayweather demands.
Any other fighter would perhaps… because any other fighter needs Mayweather to pull in the money. Manny doesn’t… he is marketable in his own right and many people’s P4P champion.

The issue about the tests isn’t about drugs at all… it’s about trying to get an psychological advantage before the fight. Mayweather has most opponents beaten before they get into the ring because he plays these games. Manny is more intelligent than that.

As for the fight… I think Mayweather

1- Ortiz trainer warned the ref about Floyd being dirty –
So what? Mayweather’s trainer warned the referee about Hatton being dirty…

2- Mayweather was taking Ortiz to school with ease in the first 4 rounds
Again so what? Boxing has shown on numerous occasions you can be well ahead and in control and then one punch can change things.

3 - Ortiz couldnt touch Mayweather who was constantly smiling
The same as point 2 – and again irrelevant.

4 - Ortiz got frustrated so he headbutted him
There was a headbutt.

5 - Ortiz tried to continue throwing punches after he headbutted Floyd

6 - Ortiz plan didnt work and he new he was gonna suffer a longer beatdown so all red-faced he tried to suck up to Floyd
What? Apologising for a headbutt is sucking up?

7- What goes around comes around, Floyd abided by the rules, kept his guard up and knocked the dirty little **** out.
Muddled thinking here… what goes around comes around is completely the wrong expression to use – seeing as you are saying Ortiz cheated and Mayweather obeyed the rules. Also calling him a dirty little **** really doesn’t help your argument.

I don’t understand why you went to the trouble of putting your points in a numbered order. That made me think they were going to be logical and follow on from each other and logically lead to a conclusion… but instead it’s just ridiculous ramblings which mean nothing. You’d might as well have just put Mayweather good Ortiz bad… it would have saved us all a lot of trouble having to read through the nonsense!

MrMortimer

1 - "What you mean so what??" Mayweathers camp may have warned the ref but in the fight Floyd "practiced what he preached". He stayed clean with no complaints from Hatton about dirty tactics. Remember that word "PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH"

2 - One punch has never changed things when Floyd has been fighting, and the general consensus saw that this fight was gonna be no different. There is a reason why he is the best defensive fighter and unbeaten. Bit lame of you to try and disregard that.

3 -Again it just showed how in control Floyd was, which resorted to a new plan of action for Ortiz. Completely relevant.

4 - Biting your toung but its good you can't deny that Ortiz HEADBUTTED Mayweather. Actually lunging into him.

5 - Looks like you cant say anything else but quote me on the truth.

6 - In those circumstances yes Ortiz was sucking up after such a deliberate offense.He said sorry once, leave it as that! How many times is he gonna try and hug and kiss Floyd just because he looked like an uncontrollable nutcase.

7 - IMO someone who lunges in for a headbutt like that especially after warning the ref about the opposion being dirty is a little hypocrytical ****. And yes Ortiz was not sportsmanlike and cheated. Mayweather was not sportsmanlike but done what he had to do withing the laws of the game. KARMA

I went throught the time, (wouldnt say trouble as I had to get this out,) so I could draw people like you in to respond. And hey presto! It worked. You went through all the trouble of quoting me on and writing a long reply. You could have just put... I DISAGREE! Would have saved us all the trouble of reading through the nonsense.

MR Mortimer < great post.

ortiz gt exactly what he deserved the dirty so and so, and to the guy who said cotto is nxt 4 mayweather, nah i think u mistake floyd wit the master of feasting on leftovers mr pacman, hattton, dlh, mosley all after floyd had done them over 1st, margo after mosley smashed him, cotto after margo smashed him and before u say floyd fought marquez, yes thats true but whos fighting marquez again after floyd has already shown him up, u guessed it pacman! Master of the sloppy 2nds

1) I say “so what” – because I am trying to understand what the actual point of the trainer warning the ref is? Why is that your point number one? It is a complete irrelevance! The trainer saying something before the fight might be relevant if you are saying he knew it would happen… but you are claiming it didn’t happen and Mayweather wasn’t dirty… so it seems an absolutely ludicrous point to start from!

2) One punch has never changed things when Mayweather has been fighting. This is again a silly point. Before Roy Jones was knocked out by Tarver one punch had never knocked him out… it still didn’t stop it happening! That’s one of the reasons boxing is so entertaining. Just because he hasn’t been knocked out before it doesn’t mean it won’t happen… everyone has their Waterloo! Mike Tyson was undefeated going into his fight with Buster Douglas… the general consensus was that it would be another easy KO for him – but he ended up losing. Yes Mayweather is a talented boxer and has a very good defense. But didn’t Roy Jones? For me Jones was one of the best I have seen… but it doesn’t mean he’s invincible! Also just for the record I’m not disregarding the fact he is a great defensive boxer… where have I said that? I’m merely stating that even good defensive boxers can get beaten – surely you can accept that?

3) OK you think Mayweather smiling is relevant. It may prove that he is comfortable and in control of the round and fight… but you seem to have missed the point. Being in control for 2 minutes 30 of a round doesn’t mean anything if you get knocked out at 2 minutes 40! Watch Cooper v Clay… Clay is mocking the British fighter for most of the round as the blood is pouring out from his eye… it means nothing though because Cooper lands a bomb in the final few seconds and sends him to the canvas. There are literally hundreds of examples I could give, and I’m sure you can think of many yourself where a fighter is “in control” but ends up losing. Can’t you?

4) I’m not biting my tongue… I’m agreeing with you that there was a headbutt. It’s the first valid point you made!

5) Not questioning your interpretation.

6) You may disagree with him wanting to show respect to Mayweather… (I know some people have issues with boxers touching gloves at the start of every round. Jim Watt always complains when fighters do it I know) but in the previous point you are criticizing him for carrying on throwing punches. It makes no sense! I also don’t think he was trying to suck up to Mayweather… do you think he was hoping Mayweather would hug back and they’d agree to be friends and stop hitting each other? I don’t think Ortiz is that naïve…

7) Your point 1 was that his trainer warned about Mayweather being dirty. Did the trainer headbutt? If the trainer did then he would be being hypocritical.

As for luring me in… I think you flatter yourself. I could well have put “I disagree” you are right… but I hoped that by replying you might actually see where you are going wrong with your arguments. I’m not on these boards to just sound off about my opinions… it’s about discussion and debate. I responded to the points you tried to make and explained where you are going wrong.

Remember it’s not the angriest boxer that wins the fight!

oh goodness, out come the good old cliches, one punch can change a fight, there would have been 8 rounds left etc then come the references 2 fights 10 and 40years ago, mayweather was battering ortiz and its alot more likley ortiz was saved from a much more savage beating than him actualy being able 2win the fight

Mr Mortimer



Wow I really should not have numbered my points, looks like its causing alot of grief . For your info the reason why that was my point number 1 is because that was the first major talking point of the fight!

I need not waste my time reading the rest of your cry-baby Floyd hater antics

Ortiz had already touched gloves with Floyd and hugged and kissed him twice anyway - how much more of a love-in does he want? Besides which, he'd already headbutted Floyd twice anyway and was getting his ass handed to him. Floyd would have done him within two more rounds anyway. Ortiz didn't have really any strong complaints afterwards - he knew he was getting caned.


AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!