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I'm starting to think he'd be the right manager for us right now and sorry Flash I didn't get round to to doing that article about him yet
There does seem to be a bit of snobbery among our fans when you mention him though. Apparently he's not a big enough name etc which is nonsense really and who cares how well known he is. It's about what job he'd do as Chelsea manager.
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The point is he’s never going to take Chelsea to the top. He’s a good manager, but at best he’ll take us to Liverpool or Tottenham’s level? Do you think Jardim can compete with Guardiola? I don’t.
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No one's competing with Pep for the next year, possibly two.
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Mourinho and Klopp will. Pockets may also. We definitely would under Allegri, possible would under Sarri, but definitely won’t under Jardim.
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Liverpool aren't built to win a league over 38 games as it stands, although a great window and they will have the best chance.
Spurs have hit a glass ceiling.
As for United, Jose season 3, enough said.
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Show some respect. Are you not aware that Mourinho won two trophies for us in his third season of his first spell? Or are you so desperate to talk shiiit about a Chelsea hero?
Wahl can you please start some sort of campaign to get Mourinho back at Chelsea?
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I'm starting to think he'd be the right manager for us right now and sorry Flash I didn't get round to to doing that article about him yet
There does seem to be a bit of snobbery among our fans when you mention him though. Apparently he's not a big enough name etc which is nonsense really and who cares how well known he is. It's about what job he'd do as Chelsea manager.
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The point is he’s never going to take Chelsea to the top. He’s a good manager, but at best he’ll take us to Liverpool or Tottenham’s level? Do you think Jardim can compete with Guardiola? I don’t.
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No one's competing with Pep for the next year, possibly two.
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Mourinho and Klopp will. Pockets may also. We definitely would under Allegri, possible would under Sarri, but definitely won’t under Jardim.
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Liverpool aren't built to win a league over 38 games as it stands, although a great window and they will have the best chance.
Spurs have hit a glass ceiling.
As for United, Jose season 3, enough said.
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Show some respect. Are you not aware that Mourinho won two trophies for us in his third season of his first spell? Or are you so desperate to talk shiiit about a Chelsea hero?
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He's never won the league in his third season, Pep always has, history is against him.
Not that I think we’ll be competing with City. But there’s seems to be an argument that we can’t improve because it’s his third season based on a history that doesn’t match up with what has happened at United.
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Not that I think we’ll be competing with City. But there’s seems to be an argument that we can’t improve because it’s his third season based on a history that doesn’t match up with what has happened at United.
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That's true. But we are also seeing a few warning signs of a classic Mourinho meltdown. I would not be too surprised to see us implode next season.
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Not that I think we’ll be competing with City. But there’s seems to be an argument that we can’t improve because it’s his third season based on a history that doesn’t match up with what has happened at United.
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I did say it a bit in jest because it was Wahl, but there's a pattern emerging with how Jose teams always peak in the first half of season two. Happened at us both times, Inter, Real and now United.
Also aren't you vastly outperforming your XG at both ends just like we were at the end of season 2? Ofcourse it's unlikely you are going to do a 15/16 but history suggests Mou won't be winning the league with you now.
The patterns at his previous clubs aren’t the same as at United, though. That’s kind of the point. History isn’t really influencing anything.
Possibly, bloodred, depends what happens in the market. The only real Mourinho meltdown was the second stint at Chelsea. At Madrid and Chelsea they finished second in his third season, and there wasn’t a meltdown with Chelsea.
We won’t win the league as the squad isn’t good enough and neither is Mourinho to compete with Pep’s City. But I’m not convinced about the third season thing based on what we’ve seen with United. It doesn’t follow the same pattern as the starting points have been completely different.
Possibly, bloodred, depends what happens in the market. The only real Mourinho meltdown was the second stint at Chelsea
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He had one at Real too. Lost all of the dressing room's key players/the entire Spanish media in season three.
A new contract usually triggers it and you gave him one earlier this year. Brace yourselves
Yeah but it wasn’t a meltdown like at Chelsea. Lost the players but they improved after their slump and went on a good run in the league and reached the semis of the CL.
But this all came after his team became champions. So it’s not really the same pattern is it?
It may happen, but none of his time at United has followed his previous trajectory so it’s not something I’m particularly taking much notice of.
Mourinho’s cv at United won’t resemble any of his previous clubs by the time he’s done. A lack of league title will be on that cv I suspect, though.
We'll see I guess. How he'll adjust without Rui Faria will be interesting.
I think it’ll be similar to this season but with some improved results. Hopefully he’ll be gone at the end of the season.
Yeah will be interesting to see what happens without his seeeeex slave. Carrick is going to be his assistant.
Carrick is going to be his assistant
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Good that he's going back to having a club favorite as his assistant, it's always how I've associated him at his best.
I figured in 2013 since he was the Chelsea legend he felt he didn't need one. But promoting his gimp at United suggests otherwise of course
Faria has worked with Mourinho since 2001. We’ll see whether Carrick just takes up his role as assistant or if someone else is brought into the coaching team.
He was coach up until United to which he became the assistant manager, basically the roles Holland, Karanka and Clarke had for Mou at his previous job.
Im guessing Louro is now in Faria's old role pre United.
Yeah he’s first team coach. I do wonder if a shake up of his backroom staff is something that Mourinho needs. Fergie used to change his staff and it helped him change things up a bit. Problem with Mourinho is that he’s so pig headed and is more involved in the training than Fergie was that it probably wouldn’t make much difference anyway.
Faria has worked with Mourinho since 2001. We’ll see whether Carrick just takes up his role as assistant or if someone else is brought into the coaching team.
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It was only up until he rejoined us where he gave Faria significant first team responsibility, prior to that he was a fitness guy.
I've always associated Mourinho with guys like Clarke, Baresi & Karanka as his no.2. Having that personal connection to the club in his process. I don't think it's a surprise that since he abandoned that (and promoted Faria) he's lost that sense of being in touch.
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comment by Erik (U21750)
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comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
I'm starting to think he'd be the right manager for us right now and sorry Flash I didn't get round to to doing that article about him yet
There does seem to be a bit of snobbery among our fans when you mention him though. Apparently he's not a big enough name etc which is nonsense really and who cares how well known he is. It's about what job he'd do as Chelsea manager.
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The point is he’s never going to take Chelsea to the top. He’s a good manager, but at best he’ll take us to Liverpool or Tottenham’s level? Do you think Jardim can compete with Guardiola? I don’t.
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No one's competing with Pep for the next year, possibly two.
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Mourinho and Klopp will. Pockets may also. We definitely would under Allegri, possible would under Sarri, but definitely won’t under Jardim.
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Liverpool aren't built to win a league over 38 games as it stands, although a great window and they will have the best chance.
Spurs have hit a glass ceiling.
As for United, Jose season 3, enough said.
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Show some respect. Are you not aware that Mourinho won two trophies for us in his third season of his first spell? Or are you so desperate to talk shiiit about a Chelsea hero?
posted on 15/5/18
Wahl can you please start some sort of campaign to get Mourinho back at Chelsea?
posted on 15/5/18
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ------- (U21614)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ------- (U21614)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
I'm starting to think he'd be the right manager for us right now and sorry Flash I didn't get round to to doing that article about him yet
There does seem to be a bit of snobbery among our fans when you mention him though. Apparently he's not a big enough name etc which is nonsense really and who cares how well known he is. It's about what job he'd do as Chelsea manager.
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The point is he’s never going to take Chelsea to the top. He’s a good manager, but at best he’ll take us to Liverpool or Tottenham’s level? Do you think Jardim can compete with Guardiola? I don’t.
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No one's competing with Pep for the next year, possibly two.
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Mourinho and Klopp will. Pockets may also. We definitely would under Allegri, possible would under Sarri, but definitely won’t under Jardim.
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Liverpool aren't built to win a league over 38 games as it stands, although a great window and they will have the best chance.
Spurs have hit a glass ceiling.
As for United, Jose season 3, enough said.
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Show some respect. Are you not aware that Mourinho won two trophies for us in his third season of his first spell? Or are you so desperate to talk shiiit about a Chelsea hero?
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He's never won the league in his third season, Pep always has, history is against him.
posted on 15/5/18
Not that I think we’ll be competing with City. But there’s seems to be an argument that we can’t improve because it’s his third season based on a history that doesn’t match up with what has happened at United.
posted on 15/5/18
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not that I think we’ll be competing with City. But there’s seems to be an argument that we can’t improve because it’s his third season based on a history that doesn’t match up with what has happened at United.
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That's true. But we are also seeing a few warning signs of a classic Mourinho meltdown. I would not be too surprised to see us implode next season.
posted on 15/5/18
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Not that I think we’ll be competing with City. But there’s seems to be an argument that we can’t improve because it’s his third season based on a history that doesn’t match up with what has happened at United.
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I did say it a bit in jest because it was Wahl, but there's a pattern emerging with how Jose teams always peak in the first half of season two. Happened at us both times, Inter, Real and now United.
Also aren't you vastly outperforming your XG at both ends just like we were at the end of season 2? Ofcourse it's unlikely you are going to do a 15/16 but history suggests Mou won't be winning the league with you now.
posted on 15/5/18
The patterns at his previous clubs aren’t the same as at United, though. That’s kind of the point. History isn’t really influencing anything.
Possibly, bloodred, depends what happens in the market. The only real Mourinho meltdown was the second stint at Chelsea. At Madrid and Chelsea they finished second in his third season, and there wasn’t a meltdown with Chelsea.
We won’t win the league as the squad isn’t good enough and neither is Mourinho to compete with Pep’s City. But I’m not convinced about the third season thing based on what we’ve seen with United. It doesn’t follow the same pattern as the starting points have been completely different.
posted on 15/5/18
Possibly, bloodred, depends what happens in the market. The only real Mourinho meltdown was the second stint at Chelsea
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He had one at Real too. Lost all of the dressing room's key players/the entire Spanish media in season three.
A new contract usually triggers it and you gave him one earlier this year. Brace yourselves
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Yeah but it wasn’t a meltdown like at Chelsea. Lost the players but they improved after their slump and went on a good run in the league and reached the semis of the CL.
But this all came after his team became champions. So it’s not really the same pattern is it?
It may happen, but none of his time at United has followed his previous trajectory so it’s not something I’m particularly taking much notice of.
Mourinho’s cv at United won’t resemble any of his previous clubs by the time he’s done. A lack of league title will be on that cv I suspect, though.
posted on 15/5/18
We'll see I guess. How he'll adjust without Rui Faria will be interesting.
posted on 15/5/18
I think it’ll be similar to this season but with some improved results. Hopefully he’ll be gone at the end of the season.
Yeah will be interesting to see what happens without his seeeeex slave. Carrick is going to be his assistant.
posted on 15/5/18
Carrick is going to be his assistant
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Good that he's going back to having a club favorite as his assistant, it's always how I've associated him at his best.
I figured in 2013 since he was the Chelsea legend he felt he didn't need one. But promoting his gimp at United suggests otherwise of course
posted on 15/5/18
Faria has worked with Mourinho since 2001. We’ll see whether Carrick just takes up his role as assistant or if someone else is brought into the coaching team.
posted on 16/5/18
He was coach up until United to which he became the assistant manager, basically the roles Holland, Karanka and Clarke had for Mou at his previous job.
Im guessing Louro is now in Faria's old role pre United.
posted on 16/5/18
Yeah he’s first team coach. I do wonder if a shake up of his backroom staff is something that Mourinho needs. Fergie used to change his staff and it helped him change things up a bit. Problem with Mourinho is that he’s so pig headed and is more involved in the training than Fergie was that it probably wouldn’t make much difference anyway.
posted on 16/5/18
Faria has worked with Mourinho since 2001. We’ll see whether Carrick just takes up his role as assistant or if someone else is brought into the coaching team.
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It was only up until he rejoined us where he gave Faria significant first team responsibility, prior to that he was a fitness guy.
I've always associated Mourinho with guys like Clarke, Baresi & Karanka as his no.2. Having that personal connection to the club in his process. I don't think it's a surprise that since he abandoned that (and promoted Faria) he's lost that sense of being in touch.
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