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Just being honest. I never wanted the UK to leave and if you would do a poll now, UK would remain.
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I think if there was a referendum now, it would be seen as an establishment stitch up and leave would win by 20 points.
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It’s the Establishment that WANT Brexshit you idiot. Less tax for them. Less rights and freedoms for The Plebs
Are you honestly this naive??
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Are you ho estly this naive? The neoliberal consensus has been the key motivator on the left and right for Brexit. From the fantasies of open borders, lack of sovereignty and failed multiculturalism, to the absurdities of excess corporatism.
Corporations and businesses love the EU. The naivety that big business dont like regulations when they write much of it themselves in order to prevent competition is rather amusing to me.
The establishment love regulation, and they love the EU.
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How is it failed multiculturism. Without it Britain would have long ago collapsed. Even the Royal Family are adopting it now.
Get in the real world mate, instead of thinking that Britain used to be some kind of white utopia where everything was fine and rosy. It wasn`t.
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I am not your mate.
You are confusing multiracialism (something I dont oppose - no one here wants a white ethno state) an multiculturalism - which is a much newer phenomenon.
A development that has led to people living distinctly parallel lives from one another, a disunity in communities, among other things.
So dont smear me as a racist when you dont know what you are talking about.
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And you think you do. You speak for yourself. I live in harmony with all the ethnic minorities in my community. If you don`t want to, which you obviously do not, then that is where the hatred and problems arise from.
The main problem I get in my community is from all the beer guzzling white men with tattoos, who can hardly string a sentence together.
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comment by AFTP 🇪ðŸ‡ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡º (U21430)
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What do you want to engage in?
My belief is that Brexit will be the worst thing to happen to this country since the 2nd World War (and at least that wasn’t self inflicted) and was voted for by a bunch of dumb bigots.
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A sincere discussion about why people voted for what they voted for. I am a Burkean conservative who hates the Tories and Labour, and has never voted UKIP before you say anything.
So for me its simply a matter of skepticism towards arbitrary power, transnational power, and unaccountable hierarchies. I find the EAW and ECJ to be huge affronts to traditional notions of English liberty for example.
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Yet doesn't realise that there are 3 other countries involved (check out who is in the UK) and at least 2 of them voted to remain by a considerable margin.
comment by Always NPE - 1,000,002 (U20804)
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I am leaving this thread, if you dom want constructive arguments then leave me alone and vote for Hamas or whover it is AFTP supports.
If only they had elections.
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You want a debate, then you bring up Hamas for some very strange warped reason. WTF has Hamas got to do with British multiculturism?
Playing the terrorist card is usually the get out when the argument has been lost.
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What do you want to engage in?
My belief is that Brexit will be the worst thing to happen to this country since the 2nd World War (and at least that wasn’t self inflicted) and was voted for by a bunch of dumb bigots.
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A sincere discussion about why people voted for what they voted for. I am a Burkean conservative who hates the Tories and Labour, and has never voted UKIP before you say anything.
So for me its simply a matter of skepticism towards arbitrary power, transnational power, and unaccountable hierarchies. I find the EAW and ECJ to be huge affronts to traditional notions of English liberty for example.
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Yet doesn't realise that there are 3 other countries involved (check out who is in the UK) and at least 2 of them voted to remain by a considerable margin.
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Also worth noting the UK has considerable representation throughout the EU institutions, (Commission, Parliament, and Council) and has been at the forefront of shaping legislature. Only bettered by Germany.
The UK is involved at every stage of the legislative process. And as all member states can exercise their executive veto.
That said many UK Eurosceptic MEPs have done little to serve their electorate, focusing their attention to breaking up the EU, rather than protecting UK interests.
Since the O.P. now lives in Spain, and is applying for an Irish passport, surely a more pertinent question would be : "Why do Remainers want Britain to fail?", and why, when the decision was made by a majority of voters (not those living in Spain, obviously) are they hell-bent on pontificating on the foolishness of their fellow countrymen (not those living in Spain, obviously).
For the record, I voted to Remain, but having seen the apoplectic, spiteful reaction to the democratic process from the Remain camp, I wish I'd voted to leave!
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How can a FTA with our closest geographical (and largest) trading partners replicate the benefits of the EU’s internal market?
Plus considering UK services and industries for the last 40+ years have based their MO on this model. By its design, a FTA is an inferior trading mechanism when compared to an internal market.
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You might have me confused with Nigel Farage or Domic Raab, I am not looking for lots of free trade deals aroudn the world.
I am also open to numerous compromises.
For me, the issues with EU are to do with its affronts to liberty and British sovereignty.
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So how does UK plc mitigate the loss of commerce via our largest trading partners? What effect will this downturn have on the economy?
How has the EU infringed "British sovereignty"
As noted by the PM "throughout our EU membership Parliament has always been sovereign..."
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comment by Always NPE - 1,000,002 (U20804)
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Just being honest. I never wanted the UK to leave and if you would do a poll now, UK would remain.
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I think if there was a referendum now, it would be seen as an establishment stitch up and leave would win by 20 points.
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It’s the Establishment that WANT Brexshit you idiot. Less tax for them. Less rights and freedoms for The Plebs
Are you honestly this naive??
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Are you ho estly this naive? The neoliberal consensus has been the key motivator on the left and right for Brexit. From the fantasies of open borders, lack of sovereignty and failed multiculturalism, to the absurdities of excess corporatism.
Corporations and businesses love the EU. The naivety that big business dont like regulations when they write much of it themselves in order to prevent competition is rather amusing to me.
The establishment love regulation, and they love the EU.
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How is it failed multiculturism. Without it Britain would have long ago collapsed. Even the Royal Family are adopting it now.
Get in the real world mate, instead of thinking that Britain used to be some kind of white utopia where everything was fine and rosy. It wasn`t.
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I am not your mate.
You are confusing multiracialism (something I dont oppose - no one here wants a white ethno state) an multiculturalism - which is a much newer phenomenon.
A development that has led to people living distinctly parallel lives from one another, a disunity in communities, among other things.
So dont smear me as a racist when you dont know what you are talking about.
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And you think you do. You speak for yourself. I live in harmony with all the ethnic minorities in my community. If you don`t want to, which you obviously do not, then that is where the hatred and problems arise from.
The main problem I get in my community is from all the beer guzzling white men with tattoos, who can hardly string a sentence together.
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comment by AFTP 🇪ðŸ‡ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡º (U21430)
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What do you want to engage in?
My belief is that Brexit will be the worst thing to happen to this country since the 2nd World War (and at least that wasn’t self inflicted) and was voted for by a bunch of dumb bigots.
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A sincere discussion about why people voted for what they voted for. I am a Burkean conservative who hates the Tories and Labour, and has never voted UKIP before you say anything.
So for me its simply a matter of skepticism towards arbitrary power, transnational power, and unaccountable hierarchies. I find the EAW and ECJ to be huge affronts to traditional notions of English liberty for example.
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Yet doesn't realise that there are 3 other countries involved (check out who is in the UK) and at least 2 of them voted to remain by a considerable margin.
posted on 21/5/18
comment by Always NPE - 1,000,002 (U20804)
posted 13 minutes ago
I am leaving this thread, if you dom want constructive arguments then leave me alone and vote for Hamas or whover it is AFTP supports.
If only they had elections.
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You want a debate, then you bring up Hamas for some very strange warped reason. WTF has Hamas got to do with British multiculturism?
Playing the terrorist card is usually the get out when the argument has been lost.
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comment by AFTP 🇪ðŸ‡ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡º (U21430)
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What do you want to engage in?
My belief is that Brexit will be the worst thing to happen to this country since the 2nd World War (and at least that wasn’t self inflicted) and was voted for by a bunch of dumb bigots.
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A sincere discussion about why people voted for what they voted for. I am a Burkean conservative who hates the Tories and Labour, and has never voted UKIP before you say anything.
So for me its simply a matter of skepticism towards arbitrary power, transnational power, and unaccountable hierarchies. I find the EAW and ECJ to be huge affronts to traditional notions of English liberty for example.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet doesn't realise that there are 3 other countries involved (check out who is in the UK) and at least 2 of them voted to remain by a considerable margin.
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Also worth noting the UK has considerable representation throughout the EU institutions, (Commission, Parliament, and Council) and has been at the forefront of shaping legislature. Only bettered by Germany.
The UK is involved at every stage of the legislative process. And as all member states can exercise their executive veto.
That said many UK Eurosceptic MEPs have done little to serve their electorate, focusing their attention to breaking up the EU, rather than protecting UK interests.
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Since the O.P. now lives in Spain, and is applying for an Irish passport, surely a more pertinent question would be : "Why do Remainers want Britain to fail?", and why, when the decision was made by a majority of voters (not those living in Spain, obviously) are they hell-bent on pontificating on the foolishness of their fellow countrymen (not those living in Spain, obviously).
For the record, I voted to Remain, but having seen the apoplectic, spiteful reaction to the democratic process from the Remain camp, I wish I'd voted to leave!
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How can a FTA with our closest geographical (and largest) trading partners replicate the benefits of the EU’s internal market?
Plus considering UK services and industries for the last 40+ years have based their MO on this model. By its design, a FTA is an inferior trading mechanism when compared to an internal market.
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comment by Always NPE - 1,000,002 (U20804)
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You might have me confused with Nigel Farage or Domic Raab, I am not looking for lots of free trade deals aroudn the world.
I am also open to numerous compromises.
For me, the issues with EU are to do with its affronts to liberty and British sovereignty.
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So how does UK plc mitigate the loss of commerce via our largest trading partners? What effect will this downturn have on the economy?
How has the EU infringed "British sovereignty"
As noted by the PM "throughout our EU membership Parliament has always been sovereign..."
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