comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇲🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 4 minutes ago
Make a packed lunch?
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Yeah I agree, I'm not complaining, I'm just proving that even in England we don't cater to a small minority of students in schools.

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I'd be very surprised if that were the case. It would have been in the news or Tell Mama
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Or you're just ignorant about it. Which is most likely the case.

Tell Mama deal with cases of Islamaphobia. I'm sure you know this.

comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 6 minutes ago
What is the process a person has to go through to become a citizen and become entitled to benefits?
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I don't know, I'm talking about what they get after they become citizens.

Answer my question.

comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇲🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 4 minutes ago
Make a packed lunch?
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Yeah I agree, I'm not complaining, I'm just proving that even in England we don't cater to a small minority of students in schools.

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I'd be very surprised if that were the case. It would have been in the news or Tell Mama
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It IS the case!!

IT IS A FACT!

I actually agree that immigrants shouldn’t be allowed to claim benefits even when they are granted citizenship. I plan to retire abroad; I will be buying a house and taking enough money with me so that I will never be a burden on the country I move to... that’s a long way off mind

He won't answer your question.

He just asks another question in order to avoid answering a question.

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 37 seconds ago
He won't answer your question.

He just asks another question in order to avoid answering a question.
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I know mate, lets see how much energy he has, I have a long commute home.

My personal opinion is that if you choose to migrate to a country that you should pay for your own housing, be unable to claim benefits and be expected to pay for your healthcare, even if you are granted citizenship.

Immigrants should not burden the economy in any sense, in my opinion. I extend that to Brits moving abroad.

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 24 seconds ago
I actually agree that immigrants shouldn’t be allowed to claim benefits even when they are granted citizenship. I plan to retire abroad; I will be buying a house and taking enough money with me so that I will never be a burden on the country I move to... that’s a long way off mind
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If you are paying into the system, are a citizen, then you should get the same benefits. If not, then you should be paying less or exempt from paying it if you're not going to be getting anything out of it.

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
I actually agree that immigrants shouldn’t be allowed to claim benefits even when they are granted citizenship. I plan to retire abroad; I will be buying a house and taking enough money with me so that I will never be a burden on the country I move to... that’s a long way off mind

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You're being considerate, which is good, but what happens if people come here and after finding a job get made redundant after x amount of years.

How do they live until they find a new job?

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 27 minutes ago
Nothing. Nothing at all.

If they want to live here, fair do's and all that but the least they can do is financially prepare themselves for that.

thats the least anyone who moves to another country should do.
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Then they should be exempt from paying taxes or pay less tax (proportion to what they will need to pay for, so no tax towards army, or NHS etc, tax towards police, fire brigade etc,) as they will not benefit from the tax they do pay.

Or are you asking people to pay into a system they will get nothing out of and be treated as second class citizens?
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If they are working here they should pay taxes like everybody else.

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇲🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 6 minutes ago
What is the process a person has to go through to become a citizen and become entitled to benefits?
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I don't know, I'm talking about what they get after they become citizens.

Answer my question.
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Then I don't know enough about the citizenship process to answer your question.

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇲🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇲🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 4 minutes ago
Make a packed lunch?
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Yeah I agree, I'm not complaining, I'm just proving that even in England we don't cater to a small minority of students in schools.

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I'd be very surprised if that were the case. It would have been in the news or Tell Mama
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It IS the case!!

IT IS A FACT!
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OK Rafa. Whatever you say

comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇲🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 6 minutes ago
What is the process a person has to go through to become a citizen and become entitled to benefits?
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I don't know, I'm talking about what they get after they become citizens.

Answer my question.
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Then I don't know enough about the citizenship process to answer your question.
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Which means you don't know enough to say we are bending over backwards.

Nothing against those that achieve ctiizenship ad pay in.

more to do with the fact of those that dont. they should get nothing.

but all immigration needs curbing. our population is out of control.

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 7 minutes ago
I actually agree that immigrants shouldn’t be allowed to claim benefits even when they are granted citizenship. I plan to retire abroad; I will be buying a house and taking enough money with me so that I will never be a burden on the country I move to... that’s a long way off mind

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As should be the case with everyone

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 24 seconds ago
I actually agree that immigrants shouldn’t be allowed to claim benefits even when they are granted citizenship. I plan to retire abroad; I will be buying a house and taking enough money with me so that I will never be a burden on the country I move to... that’s a long way off mind
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If you are paying into the system, are a citizen, then you should get the same benefits. If not, then you should be paying less or exempt from paying it if you're not going to be getting anything out of it.
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What benefits are you talking about?

comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 27 minutes ago
Nothing. Nothing at all.

If they want to live here, fair do's and all that but the least they can do is financially prepare themselves for that.

thats the least anyone who moves to another country should do.
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Then they should be exempt from paying taxes or pay less tax (proportion to what they will need to pay for, so no tax towards army, or NHS etc, tax towards police, fire brigade etc,) as they will not benefit from the tax they do pay.

Or are you asking people to pay into a system they will get nothing out of and be treated as second class citizens?
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If they are working here they should pay taxes like everybody else.
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Not if they aren't going to get the same benefits in paying the same amount of tax.

As they have to use private health are, then they shouldn't be paying any tax towards NHS. They won't be entitled to it. Nor should they pay tax towards benefits they get nothing from. As they're not going to be full citizens, they shouldn't pay towards the army.

I pay less tax than the locals in China as I do not get the same benefits here as they do.

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇲🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
I actually agree that immigrants shouldn’t be allowed to claim benefits even when they are granted citizenship. I plan to retire abroad; I will be buying a house and taking enough money with me so that I will never be a burden on the country I move to... that’s a long way off mind

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You're being considerate, which is good, but what happens if people come here and after finding a job get made redundant after x amount of years.

How do they live until they find a new job?
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Shouldn't that possibikity be factored into their decision to move ?

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇲🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇲🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 6 minutes ago
What is the process a person has to go through to become a citizen and become entitled to benefits?
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I don't know, I'm talking about what they get after they become citizens.

Answer my question.
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Then I don't know enough about the citizenship process to answer your question.
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Which means you don't know enough to say we are bending over backwards.
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No, we do bend over backwards

comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇲🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇲🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 6 minutes ago
What is the process a person has to go through to become a citizen and become entitled to benefits?
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I don't know, I'm talking about what they get after they become citizens.

Answer my question.
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Then I don't know enough about the citizenship process to answer your question.
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Which means you don't know enough to say we are bending over backwards.
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No, we do bend over backwards
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So you do know enough about the citizenship process to say we bend over backwards?

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 27 minutes ago
Nothing. Nothing at all.

If they want to live here, fair do's and all that but the least they can do is financially prepare themselves for that.

thats the least anyone who moves to another country should do.
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Then they should be exempt from paying taxes or pay less tax (proportion to what they will need to pay for, so no tax towards army, or NHS etc, tax towards police, fire brigade etc,) as they will not benefit from the tax they do pay.

Or are you asking people to pay into a system they will get nothing out of and be treated as second class citizens?
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If they are working here they should pay taxes like everybody else.
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Not if they aren't going to get the same benefits in paying the same amount of tax.

As they have to use private health are, then they shouldn't be paying any tax towards NHS. They won't be entitled to it. Nor should they pay tax towards benefits they get nothing from. As they're not going to be full citizens, they shouldn't pay towards the army.

I pay less tax than the locals in China as I do not get the same benefits here as they do.
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Maybe after x amount of contributions they then become.entitled to services like the NHS

I would suggest immigrants into this country get it better than anywhere else given the fact that they all want to live here.

Maybe after x amount of contributions they then become.entitled to services like the NHS

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So they shouldn't be entitled to the same as other citizens is what you're saying?

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇲🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇲🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🇲🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 6 minutes ago
What is the process a person has to go through to become a citizen and become entitled to benefits?
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I don't know, I'm talking about what they get after they become citizens.

Answer my question.
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Then I don't know enough about the citizenship process to answer your question.
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Which means you don't know enough to say we are bending over backwards.
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No, we do bend over backwards
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So you do know enough about the citizenship process to say we bend over backwards?
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Didn't I say that about immigrants, not citizens ?

comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tyler Durden (U21874)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 27 minutes ago
Nothing. Nothing at all.

If they want to live here, fair do's and all that but the least they can do is financially prepare themselves for that.

thats the least anyone who moves to another country should do.
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Then they should be exempt from paying taxes or pay less tax (proportion to what they will need to pay for, so no tax towards army, or NHS etc, tax towards police, fire brigade etc,) as they will not benefit from the tax they do pay.

Or are you asking people to pay into a system they will get nothing out of and be treated as second class citizens?
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If they are working here they should pay taxes like everybody else.
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Not if they aren't going to get the same benefits in paying the same amount of tax.

As they have to use private health are, then they shouldn't be paying any tax towards NHS. They won't be entitled to it. Nor should they pay tax towards benefits they get nothing from. As they're not going to be full citizens, they shouldn't pay towards the army.

I pay less tax than the locals in China as I do not get the same benefits here as they do.
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Maybe after x amount of contributions they then become.entitled to services like the NHS
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I dont know. Nobody has specified the difference between an immigrant and a citizen