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Why are Morata and Bakayoko still here ?

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posted on 7/8/18

Probably because the owner doesn't seem to care anymore.

posted on 7/8/18

Nobody wants them?

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 7/8/18

I'm predicting us to be quite busy in the upcoming days.

Courtois will be leaving, just sell him if he doesn't want to be here. So we'll be after a goalkeeper, hope it's anyone but Butland.

Links with us signing Fekir today also, he'll be a good buy and a cheaper alternative to Zaha. Left footed and plays from the right.

Hope we sign a goalscoring mid, I'd even take Ramsey. Drinkwater will be sold. Bakayoko is still young, so give him another year.

PLEASE sign a striker or give Michy a run in the side

posted on 7/8/18

Because nobody else is stupid enough to pay good money for them!

posted on 7/8/18

Tbf, they would be bargains compared to Solanke at £3m.

comment by BF2 (U21548)

posted on 7/8/18

Superb the same could be said of Zappacosta and Drinkwater. Marina G has now complete control of the ins ans outs and she's hardly a football person which is why we have been associated with Andy Carroll, Rob Green and now Butland.
As long as MG and the board including RA (and a lot of fans) continue not to build an effective structure we will continue to deteriorate.

We no longer have a winning mentallity have all these substandard players on the books and chase mediocre players to fill the gaps.

The appointment of Sarri and default purchase of Jorgino (spelling) is only a stop gap measure that has a limited feel good factor. In reallity nothing has changed and our current situation, that has existed a number of years, will continue until we appoint a manager with what we expect i.e. the winning mentality. Maybe in 2 years or so Lampard or Terry will be ready to take over.

posted on 7/8/18

Zappa and especially Carroll were clearly Conte's doing.

posted on 7/8/18

comment by ------- (U21614)
posted 48 seconds ago
Tbf, they would be bargains compared to Solanke at £3m.
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We could sell him in the next few days for 4 times the money.

That won’t happen with Morata or Baka.

Drinkwater though!

comment by BF2 (U21548)

posted on 7/8/18

Zappa and especially Carroll were clearly Conte's doing.
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Have you any proof of this?

posted on 7/8/18

Bit dramatic, I think Sarri will be great for you if you give him time and don't expect things to change within the first month of the season.

comment by BF2 (U21548)

posted on 7/8/18

Bit dramatic, I think Sarri will be great for you if you give him time and don't expect things to change within the first month of the season.
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You don't seem to grasp the underlying problem at Chelsea which is the structure, or lack of structure, in the background.

I have nothing whatsoever against the appointment of Sarri just pointing out that the board remains the same but managers change and paper over the cracks for a short period. I hope Sarri enjoys Chelsea for as long as he lasts.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 7/8/18

I'm happy with the Sarri appointment. It's just sad to know that we'll be going into the new season with a very unbalanced squad that includes some players who shouldn't be here anymore.

So straight away we're at a disadvantage to the rest and that's purely down to the incompetence of those in charge of player recruitment at the club.

posted on 7/8/18

I feel your pain, we're in a similar boat tbh.

posted on 7/8/18

comment by BF2 (U21548)
posted 11 minutes ago
Zappa and especially Carroll were clearly Conte's doing.
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Have you any proof of this?
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Conte had used targetmen throughout his time at Juve and Italy (Llorente, Pelle, Mandzukic,he even signed Bendtner) pre Conte we didn't really go after targetmen, and it certainly wasn't the typical "board signing" of down the years.

Yes there was clearly a few signings that were the boards doing like Bats and Barkley, but history suggests that Carroll and all the other targetmen were Antonio's doing.

posted on 7/8/18

I don't understand why fans keep saying give Sarri time, I don't think anyone has complained once about him?

my gripe along with a lot of the others is the fact that our club is almost being run the same was Ashley is running Newcastle

posted on 7/8/18

comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by ------- (U21614)
posted 48 seconds ago
Tbf, they would be bargains compared to Solanke at £3m.
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We could sell him in the next few days for 4 times the money.

That won’t happen with Morata or Baka.

Drinkwater though!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF6Bowq8Rqg

What about him?

posted on 7/8/18

comment by Ronny Van Banterous - It's only me!! (U5996)
posted 14 seconds ago
I don't understand why fans keep saying give Sarri time, I don't think anyone has complained once about him?

my gripe along with a lot of the others is the fact that our club is almost being run the same was Ashley is running Newcastle


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Now your just being negative for the sake of it.

posted on 7/8/18

You going to compare us to Blackpool next ?

posted on 7/8/18

comment by ------- (U21614)
posted 2 minutes ago
You going to compare us to Blackpool next ?
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we're going that way

Ian Holloway looks like a good bet to replace Sarri aswel in Jan?

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 7/8/18

comment by Ronny Van Banterous - It's only me!! (U5996)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by ------- (U21614)
posted 2 minutes ago
You going to compare us to Blackpool next ?
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we're going that way

Ian Holloway looks like a good bet to replace Sarri aswel in Jan?
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IT'S WRONG - love a Ian Holloway Rant...

comment by Bov (U6696)

posted on 7/8/18

What I find curious is the phrase give him time when he's not played a competitive match.
The board messed up again. They appointed too late and didn't sort out transfers out. We're linked with Zaha yet go ahead and loan Palace RLC without using that as part of a Zaha deal. How stupid is that. Emelano had his critics and I was NOT one of them as he was a football man. He bought in the Belgians as well as many others. The fact that Jose and the club let them slip through their fingers is not his fault. Now we have MG who is not a football person but a business woman. Bad things going to happen

posted on 7/8/18

The people running the club are facking Muppets. Especially that piece of shat Marina. Why the fack do we penny pinch on players that will improve the team (Alisson, Alex Sandro, Koulibaly, Nainggolan, Lukaku and many more yet we happily spend over the odds on players like Drinkwater, Zappa and Baka. IT MAKES NO SENSE. Too much short termism with our board.

We sell Bertrand and Filipe Luis and now we are in a position were we need a decent LB.

Sell Costa and loan Batshuayi when our main striker can't hit a facking barn door.

Sell De Bruyne, Lukaku and Salah and whether you agree or disagree they all scored against us last season costing us points and finished in teams ahead of us in the league.

We sold Cech, Replaced him with Courtois which was decent at the time but I actually seen us linked with Cech earlier in the summer... 3 years after he left being deemed not good enough! Our board couldn't organise a p!ss up in magalluf.

comment by BF2 (U21548)

posted on 7/8/18

comment by BF2 (U21548)
posted 11 minutes ago
Zappa and especially Carroll were clearly Conte's doing.
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Have you any proof of this?
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Conte had used targetmen throughout his time at Juve and Italy (Llorente, Pelle, Mandzukic,he even signed Bendtner) pre Conte we didn't really go after targetmen, and it certainly wasn't the typical "board signing" of down the years.

Yes there was clearly a few signings that were the boards doing like Bats and Barkley, but history suggests that Carroll and all the other targetmen were Antonio's doing.

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This is all very vague and suggestive. We were after Lukaku, a targetman, then got Moratta another targetman. So we always go for target men in the number 9 position.
Conte obviously wanted certain signings and I doubt whether he got any of them, hence his behaviour last season.
Emenal lefy by mutual consent in November because he was being blamed for the inadequate quality of players being recruited by MG who doesn't care of has knowledge of football players. Therefore we've got crap that we can't get rid of and continuing to get more crap in regardless of whether Conte's here or not.

comment by BF2 (U21548)

posted on 7/8/18

It might be interprted from my post that I want MG out. I don't!! I want a replacment footballing DoF who will exist in a formal structure and not a power battle

posted on 7/8/18

comment by BF2 (U21548)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BF2 (U21548)
posted 11 minutes ago
Zappa and especially Carroll were clearly Conte's doing.
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Have you any proof of this?
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Conte had used targetmen throughout his time at Juve and Italy (Llorente, Pelle, Mandzukic,he even signed Bendtner) pre Conte we didn't really go after targetmen, and it certainly wasn't the typical "board signing" of down the years.

Yes there was clearly a few signings that were the boards doing like Bats and Barkley, but history suggests that Carroll and all the other targetmen were Antonio's doing.

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This is all very vague and suggestive. We were after Lukaku, a targetman, then got Moratta another targetman. So we always go for target men in the number 9 position.
Conte obviously wanted certain signings and I doubt whether he got any of them, hence his behaviour last season.
Emenal lefy by mutual consent in November because he was being blamed for the inadequate quality of players being recruited by MG who doesn't care of has knowledge of football players. Therefore we've got crap that we can't get rid of and continuing to get more crap in regardless of whether Conte's here or not.
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The Lukaku links stated when Conte arrived, as did Morata's.

Out of the strikers we went for pre Conte only really Ba could be considered a targetman and he was signed as a squad player. Costa, Eto'o, Torres are far from targetmen.

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