comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
Which parts are ill informed?

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Your claim about those stats soon to join the EU. You run away from putting forward what that “soon” is in timescale that makes you say “soon”

Afraid of being wrong aren’t you? That horse has bolted mate.
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*states

I’m not wrong, what I did call as take a democratic vote towards my personal preference.

Tell me what will will be the fallout, without using remain lies and mistruth. Let’s not resort to racist accusations and anti migration, we are not French after all.

comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 16 minutes ago
I’m not wrong, what I did call as take a democratic vote towards my personal preference.

Tell me what will will be the fallout, without using remain lies and mistruth. Let’s not resort to racist accusations and anti migration, we are not French after all.
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There's a wealth of information in both private and public sectors on Brexit impacts. Sadly many on both sides of the debate have weaponised misinformation.

From the ERG and co misrepresenting global trade policy, (WTO) to some connected to the people's vote claiming absolute armageddon.

The truth is that (I'll happily provide links if you're interested) there is no Brexit outcome which is anything other than damage limitation. But we knew there would be economic consequences, but people seem to be comfortable with having less money in their pockets in favour of feeling, orva perception of greater sovereignty.

Or did folk honestly believe revoking 40+ years of, and thousands of integrated economic partnerships and trade agreements would deliver 'exactly the same benefits'

comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 31 minutes ago
I’m not wrong, what I did call as take a democratic vote towards my personal preference.

Tell me what will will be the fallout, without using remain lies and mistruth. Let’s not resort to racist accusations and anti migration, we are not French after all.
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Running away from qualifying what you mean by “soon” in the context of “soon to be members” as you pointed out.

Either you don’t know and are parroting what you’ve heard or you’re propogating it and not wanting to put it into context.

Tell me what will will be the fallout,

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As a starter, we will all be poorer not least because of the elongation of supply chains via increased checks or increased admin that will be paid for by the end user/consumer.

Time = money, more time = more money.

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 8 hours, 42 minutes ago
Tell me what will will be the fallout,

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As a starter, we will all be poorer not least because of the elongation of supply chains via increased checks or increased admin that will be paid for by the end user/consumer.

Time = money, more time = more money.
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So costs of goods will increase due to a system yet to be agreed. Do you know for sure?

That also has a flip side, that can be balanced. Some would say even negotiated.

comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 8 hours, 42 minutes ago
Tell me what will will be the fallout,

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As a starter, we will all be poorer not least because of the elongation of supply chains via increased checks or increased admin that will be paid for by the end user/consumer.

Time = money, more time = more money.
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So costs of goods will increase due to a system yet to be agreed. Do you know for sure?

That also has a flip side, that can be balanced. Some would say even negotiated.
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It's a matter of international trade policy. Outside a customs union, the common external tariff *has* to be applied by law.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_external_tariff

https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/tariffs_e/tariff_data_e.htm


Furthermore a FTA is sectoral (with carve outs) whilst an internal market covers the entire economy. In short we currently have the best trading agreement available, and current government objectives are to downgrade to a FTA.

The consequences therefore obvious.

In short we currently have the best trading agreement available

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Anyone believing adding processes and/or infrastructure will result in less time, less capital cost and thereon less cost is living in cloud cuckoo land.

Was having a look at the UK’s draft WTO tariff schedules to see how much progress has been made.

Info on schedules: https://www.wto.org/english/news_e/news17_e/mark_27jul17_e.pdf

The UK’s draft schedules were submitted to the WTO back in July, and the WTO pencilled in three months to review. From what I can see there has been next to no advancement.

https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/countries_e/united_kingdom_e.htm

When the Brexiteers talk about falling back on WTO terms/rules in a no deal scenario, before we can do so, I understand the UK’s independent WTO schedules (without reference to the EU) firstly have to be ratified by the WTO.

Given the severe time restraints we have had to copy *all* existing EU schedules, including commodities we don’t even produce, (Spanish oranges tariff schedules for example).

I’d be amazed if all 168 odd WTO countries will have endorsed the UK’s schedules come March 2019. Some members, Argentina for example, could chose to make life difficult for us in light of ongoing disputes.

In short if you hear anyone say the UK are sufficiently prepared for a no deal scenario in regard to “falling back on WTO terms” they are lying.