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comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
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comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
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comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
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BrummieBlue
Fair enough I won't bother you with facts, and you can base judgement on feelings and perception.
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You're even second guessing what I base my 'Judgement' on!!
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What then, have you based your judgement on?
How many trade agreements have you read for example? Or what research have you relied on to form a considered opinion?
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I've already said I'm not going to bother explaining why I voted to leave on this forum and given my reasons for that!
And if you're 2nd guessing that it's anything to do with trade agreements - again you're as wide of the mark as Petr Cechs clearances!
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I didn't ask why you voted leave. Just what research you'd completed on trade policy (regardless of Brexit).
If you don't have a counter argument fair enough.
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None, I never said, or indicated that my decision was anything to do with, or influenced by trade policy - so why would I research it?
OP- Democracy in UK and most places means we let the elected government make decisions on our behalf. Rarely on important issues a referendum is called to gauge a majority opinion.
There are no ifs, and buts ...i'ts a simple decision of in or out. Referendums need to be taken seriously. Its our system and its worked pretty well since the beginning.
If its going to be a case of "best of three" then no one will ever respect this manner of deciding issues again.
I do not mean to be patronising by telling you the obvious. But not respecting the first vote count will probably deeply damage the system we have had in place for so long.
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
BrummieBlue
Fair enough I won't bother you with facts, and you can base judgement on feelings and perception.
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You're even second guessing what I base my 'Judgement' on!!
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What then, have you based your judgement on?
How many trade agreements have you read for example? Or what research have you relied on to form a considered opinion?
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I've already said I'm not going to bother explaining why I voted to leave on this forum and given my reasons for that!
And if you're 2nd guessing that it's anything to do with trade agreements - again you're as wide of the mark as Petr Cechs clearances!
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I didn't ask why you voted leave. Just what research you'd completed on trade policy (regardless of Brexit).
If you don't have a counter argument fair enough.
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None, I never said, or indicated that my decision was anything to do with, or influenced by trade policy - so why would I research it?
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You stated earlier:
"Why would I want to discuss with people who have absolutely no idea what is going to happen or what the repercussions (if there are to be any)"
Which is factually incorrect. We *do* know what is going to happen given the UK government's objectives.
We also know industries and interconnected supply chains will be disamated outside of the CU and SM.
We know that EU government's Have been advising stakeholders to cut out UK businesses from supply chains. Many UK businesses already unable to secure European contracts post March 2019.
EU preparedness notices:
https://ec.europa.eu/info/brexit/brexit-preparedness_en
There is a multitude of information available if you choose to research.
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 4 minutes ago
OP- Democracy in UK and most places means we let the elected government make decisions on our behalf. Rarely on important issues a referendum is called to gauge a majority opinion.
There are no ifs, and buts ...i'ts a simple decision of in or out. Referendums need to be taken seriously. Its our system and its worked pretty well since the beginning.
If its going to be a case of "best of three" then no one will ever respect this manner of deciding issues again.
I do not mean to be patronising by telling you the obvious. But not respecting the first vote count will probably deeply damage the system we have had in place for so long.
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Yes and i get that. And if it was a General Election i'd 100% agree.
This is way bigger than that.
And i do think a lot of people voted based on promises made in the campaign on both sides. Lies were told on both sides.
But there's been to many "i voted leave but if i could have my vote again.....
Farage pretty much admitted the morning after the NHS promise was bollox.
Hand on heart do you think leave would win if the final decision was offered back to the voters?
As i say i don't think even Farage does. He's rich enough to not care. But it is strange how when he thought it was going to be 52/48 in favour of remain he said that "would be unfinished business".
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
Then I noticed things like European standards for certain thongs,
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Never realised you wore a Thong JFDI
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Only weekends
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
BrummieBlue
Fair enough I won't bother you with facts, and you can base judgement on feelings and perception.
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You're even second guessing what I base my 'Judgement' on!!
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What then, have you based your judgement on?
How many trade agreements have you read for example? Or what research have you relied on to form a considered opinion?
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I've already said I'm not going to bother explaining why I voted to leave on this forum and given my reasons for that!
And if you're 2nd guessing that it's anything to do with trade agreements - again you're as wide of the mark as Petr Cechs clearances!
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I didn't ask why you voted leave. Just what research you'd completed on trade policy (regardless of Brexit).
If you don't have a counter argument fair enough.
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None, I never said, or indicated that my decision was anything to do with, or influenced by trade policy - so why would I research it?
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You stated earlier:
"Why would I want to discuss with people who have absolutely no idea what is going to happen or what the repercussions (if there are to be any)"
Which is factually incorrect. We *do* know what is going to happen given the UK government's objectives.
We also know industries and interconnected supply chains will be disamated outside of the CU and SM.
We know that EU government's Have been advising stakeholders to cut out UK businesses from supply chains. Many UK businesses already unable to secure European contracts post March 2019.
EU preparedness notices:
https://ec.europa.eu/info/brexit/brexit-preparedness_en
There is a multitude of information available if you choose to research.
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I fail to see any correlation between that statement and not voting on trade policy.
And no - I will not be looking at your link.
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
BrummieBlue
Fair enough I won't bother you with facts, and you can base judgement on feelings and perception.
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You're even second guessing what I base my 'Judgement' on!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What then, have you based your judgement on?
How many trade agreements have you read for example? Or what research have you relied on to form a considered opinion?
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I've already said I'm not going to bother explaining why I voted to leave on this forum and given my reasons for that!
And if you're 2nd guessing that it's anything to do with trade agreements - again you're as wide of the mark as Petr Cechs clearances!
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I didn't ask why you voted leave. Just what research you'd completed on trade policy (regardless of Brexit).
If you don't have a counter argument fair enough.
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None, I never said, or indicated that my decision was anything to do with, or influenced by trade policy - so why would I research it?
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You stated earlier:
"Why would I want to discuss with people who have absolutely no idea what is going to happen or what the repercussions (if there are to be any)"
Which is factually incorrect. We *do* know what is going to happen given the UK government's objectives.
We also know industries and interconnected supply chains will be disamated outside of the CU and SM.
We know that EU government's Have been advising stakeholders to cut out UK businesses from supply chains. Many UK businesses already unable to secure European contracts post March 2019.
EU preparedness notices:
https://ec.europa.eu/info/brexit/brexit-preparedness_en
There is a multitude of information available if you choose to research.
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I fail to see any correlation between that statement and not voting on trade policy.
And no - I will not be looking at your link.
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I didn't think you would.
You might have learnt something.
I might have learned some one's opinion!
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 minutes ago
I might have learned some one's opinion!
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It's an opinion based on factual evidence, and international trade policy (trade law).
Whereas your opinion is based on??
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 minutes ago
I might have learned some one's opinion!
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It's an opinion based on factual evidence, and international trade policy (trade law).
Whereas your opinion is based on??
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I thought we'd navigated through this one!
Did I forget to mention that I didn't vote on trade policy!
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 minutes ago
I might have learned some one's opinion!
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It's an opinion based on factual evidence, and international trade policy (trade law).
Whereas your opinion is based on??
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I thought we'd navigated through this one!
Did I forget to mention that I didn't vote on trade policy!
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But everything else stems from trade. GDP, sovereignty, employment, public services, government spending, migration, regulatory framework etc etc.
To disregard trade ignores everything else it underpins.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 15 seconds ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 minutes ago
I might have learned some one's opinion!
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It's an opinion based on factual evidence, and international trade policy (trade law).
Whereas your opinion is based on??
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I thought we'd navigated through this one!
Did I forget to mention that I didn't vote on trade policy!
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But everything else stems from trade. GDP, sovereignty, employment, public services, government spending, migration, regulatory framework etc etc.
To disregard trade ignores everything else it underpins.
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But not to why I voted Leave
What have you got to worry about Stuart,you took out an Irish passport,if it don't turn out too your liking,just pack a bag , cross the border and hey presto you're back in the EU.
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 9 minutes ago
What have you got to worry about Stuart,you took out an Irish passport,if it don't turn out too your liking,just pack a bag , cross the border and hey presto you're back in the EU.
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I kinda enjoy living in NI thanks. Not that I've got an undying love for the EU, but the benefits of our membership far outweigh the negatives.
Especially here in NI we have received considerable (ERDF, peace initiative funding etc) support from the EU. Belfast unrecognisable now compared to 20yrs ago. Thanks in part to EU infrastructure funding grants etc.
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 17 minutes ago
What have you got to worry about Stuart,you took out an Irish passport,if it don't turn out too your liking,just pack a bag , cross the border and hey presto you're back in the EU.
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Dublin would send him back up, mate😁
He would start telling them where they went wrong!!!!
By leaving the British family of nations😉
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 hours, 30 minutes ago
Good afternoon bluebelles and welcome into the fray!
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All good clean fun.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 9 minutes ago
What have you got to worry about Stuart,you took out an Irish passport,if it don't turn out too your liking,just pack a bag , cross the border and hey presto you're back in the EU.
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I kinda enjoy living in NI thanks. Not that I've got an undying love for the EU, but the benefits of our membership far outweigh the negatives.
Especially here in NI we have received considerable (ERDF, peace initiative funding etc) support from the EU. Belfast unrecognisable now compared to 20yrs ago. Thanks in part to EU infrastructure funding grants etc.
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And the fact pira stopped blowing the place up👍
Always helps.
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
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comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 minutes ago
I might have learned some one's opinion!
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It's an opinion based on factual evidence, and international trade policy (trade law).
Whereas your opinion is based on??
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I thought we'd navigated through this one!
Did I forget to mention that I didn't vote on trade policy!
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No matter what you say, wwspd knows best.....and even if you do agree with some of his remain narrative, he will continue to talk to posters as if they were primary school kids.
Also, wwspd usually sides with the EU unelected little hitlers, who are only doing their job, but that is to shaft us, block brexit and prevent dissent among other European states.
Tories are doing a poor enough job without folk here cheering on barnier and juncker.
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 20 hours, 42 minutes ago
The amusing thing is the working class northerners who voted for Brexit will be the ones that get absolutely hammered the worse.
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Manchester and Liverpool overwhelmingly voted remain. It's Little Englanders in the Home Counties that have feked us all over because their houses are paid off and their pensions are secure.
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The north, Midlands and North East, East coast were majority Leave, with a close call in the North west, so not a Home Counties posh brexit vote at all.
If you want to look South East England, London was remain, so hardly backs up your narrative.
Then we have the South West and Wales voting leave, nowhere near the home counties.
Amazingly, four in the backed brexit in Ulster and Scotland, despite massive pressure to vote remain.
So, are we blaming poor northerners or rich home counties homeowners??😁😁😁
Can't have it both ways.
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comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 20 hours, 42 minutes ago
The amusing thing is the working class northerners who voted for Brexit will be the ones that get absolutely hammered the worse.
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Manchester and Liverpool overwhelmingly voted remain. It's Little Englanders in the Home Counties that have feked us all over because their houses are paid off and their pensions are secure.
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The north, Midlands and North East, East coast were majority Leave, with a close call in the North west, so not a Home Counties posh brexit vote at all.
If you want to look South East England, London was remain, so hardly backs up your narrative.
Then we have the South West and Wales voting leave, nowhere near the home counties.
Amazingly, four in the backed brexit in Ulster and Scotland, despite massive pressure to vote remain.
So, are we blaming poor northerners or rich home counties homeowners??😁😁😁
Can't have it both ways.
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Four in ten backed brexit in Ulster and Scotland!😟
I said the Home Counties, not London and I also mentioned the 2 most populous cities in the North of England.
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 23 hours, 13 minutes ago
omment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 1 minute ago
If we are going to be a basket case when we leave the EU,why are they fighting so hard to keep us in,perhaps they don't like to think of us that poor,or is it the £14 billion we put in their pot,and get less than £5 billion back.
Bless em.
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I don't think you're bright enough or have the facts to hand to enter this discussion but rest assured UK gets much more out of EU than that which you imply. You'll realise that around the second week in April.
Bless !
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Coop
Bout ye, brother😊
Admin did a pro and con brexit list, and We pay in more than we get back from the EU.
As more poorer and smaller states joined the EU to receive more back,,so the likes of Germany and the UK carried the likes of Greece,,Eire and Spain.....now East European and central European zones.
Hence why Germany and France are crapping themselves to stop big contributing Brits from leaving.
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
I said the Home Counties, not London and I also mentioned the 2 most populous cities in the North of England.
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Yes, you wrongly said brexit could be blamed on the Home Counties posh vote, and I corrected you!
The home counties little Englanders are not to blame and were not alone in voting leave, and I pointed out where brexit got majority support, All Over the voting area.
Croatia, Slovenia and Montenegro are now in the EU.
If that was the case earlier we wouldn't have had the Balkans War and its associated atrocities.
The EU is also about stability, not just money.
The Home Counties are symbolic of 'Middle England' and has the highest concentration of that demograph.
That's why I used them as an example. That's not to say that the uneducated or work shy who think foreigners are stealing their jobs didn't vote leave en masse.
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posted on 25/8/18
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
BrummieBlue
Fair enough I won't bother you with facts, and you can base judgement on feelings and perception.
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You're even second guessing what I base my 'Judgement' on!!
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What then, have you based your judgement on?
How many trade agreements have you read for example? Or what research have you relied on to form a considered opinion?
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I've already said I'm not going to bother explaining why I voted to leave on this forum and given my reasons for that!
And if you're 2nd guessing that it's anything to do with trade agreements - again you're as wide of the mark as Petr Cechs clearances!
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I didn't ask why you voted leave. Just what research you'd completed on trade policy (regardless of Brexit).
If you don't have a counter argument fair enough.
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None, I never said, or indicated that my decision was anything to do with, or influenced by trade policy - so why would I research it?
posted on 25/8/18
OP- Democracy in UK and most places means we let the elected government make decisions on our behalf. Rarely on important issues a referendum is called to gauge a majority opinion.
There are no ifs, and buts ...i'ts a simple decision of in or out. Referendums need to be taken seriously. Its our system and its worked pretty well since the beginning.
If its going to be a case of "best of three" then no one will ever respect this manner of deciding issues again.
I do not mean to be patronising by telling you the obvious. But not respecting the first vote count will probably deeply damage the system we have had in place for so long.
posted on 25/8/18
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
BrummieBlue
Fair enough I won't bother you with facts, and you can base judgement on feelings and perception.
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You're even second guessing what I base my 'Judgement' on!!
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What then, have you based your judgement on?
How many trade agreements have you read for example? Or what research have you relied on to form a considered opinion?
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I've already said I'm not going to bother explaining why I voted to leave on this forum and given my reasons for that!
And if you're 2nd guessing that it's anything to do with trade agreements - again you're as wide of the mark as Petr Cechs clearances!
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I didn't ask why you voted leave. Just what research you'd completed on trade policy (regardless of Brexit).
If you don't have a counter argument fair enough.
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None, I never said, or indicated that my decision was anything to do with, or influenced by trade policy - so why would I research it?
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You stated earlier:
"Why would I want to discuss with people who have absolutely no idea what is going to happen or what the repercussions (if there are to be any)"
Which is factually incorrect. We *do* know what is going to happen given the UK government's objectives.
We also know industries and interconnected supply chains will be disamated outside of the CU and SM.
We know that EU government's Have been advising stakeholders to cut out UK businesses from supply chains. Many UK businesses already unable to secure European contracts post March 2019.
EU preparedness notices:
https://ec.europa.eu/info/brexit/brexit-preparedness_en
There is a multitude of information available if you choose to research.
posted on 25/8/18
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 4 minutes ago
OP- Democracy in UK and most places means we let the elected government make decisions on our behalf. Rarely on important issues a referendum is called to gauge a majority opinion.
There are no ifs, and buts ...i'ts a simple decision of in or out. Referendums need to be taken seriously. Its our system and its worked pretty well since the beginning.
If its going to be a case of "best of three" then no one will ever respect this manner of deciding issues again.
I do not mean to be patronising by telling you the obvious. But not respecting the first vote count will probably deeply damage the system we have had in place for so long.
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Yes and i get that. And if it was a General Election i'd 100% agree.
This is way bigger than that.
And i do think a lot of people voted based on promises made in the campaign on both sides. Lies were told on both sides.
But there's been to many "i voted leave but if i could have my vote again.....
Farage pretty much admitted the morning after the NHS promise was bollox.
Hand on heart do you think leave would win if the final decision was offered back to the voters?
As i say i don't think even Farage does. He's rich enough to not care. But it is strange how when he thought it was going to be 52/48 in favour of remain he said that "would be unfinished business".
posted on 25/8/18
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
Then I noticed things like European standards for certain thongs,
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Never realised you wore a Thong JFDI
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Only weekends
posted on 25/8/18
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
BrummieBlue
Fair enough I won't bother you with facts, and you can base judgement on feelings and perception.
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You're even second guessing what I base my 'Judgement' on!!
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What then, have you based your judgement on?
How many trade agreements have you read for example? Or what research have you relied on to form a considered opinion?
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I've already said I'm not going to bother explaining why I voted to leave on this forum and given my reasons for that!
And if you're 2nd guessing that it's anything to do with trade agreements - again you're as wide of the mark as Petr Cechs clearances!
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I didn't ask why you voted leave. Just what research you'd completed on trade policy (regardless of Brexit).
If you don't have a counter argument fair enough.
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None, I never said, or indicated that my decision was anything to do with, or influenced by trade policy - so why would I research it?
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You stated earlier:
"Why would I want to discuss with people who have absolutely no idea what is going to happen or what the repercussions (if there are to be any)"
Which is factually incorrect. We *do* know what is going to happen given the UK government's objectives.
We also know industries and interconnected supply chains will be disamated outside of the CU and SM.
We know that EU government's Have been advising stakeholders to cut out UK businesses from supply chains. Many UK businesses already unable to secure European contracts post March 2019.
EU preparedness notices:
https://ec.europa.eu/info/brexit/brexit-preparedness_en
There is a multitude of information available if you choose to research.
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I fail to see any correlation between that statement and not voting on trade policy.
And no - I will not be looking at your link.
posted on 25/8/18
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 8 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
BrummieBlue
Fair enough I won't bother you with facts, and you can base judgement on feelings and perception.
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You're even second guessing what I base my 'Judgement' on!!
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What then, have you based your judgement on?
How many trade agreements have you read for example? Or what research have you relied on to form a considered opinion?
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I've already said I'm not going to bother explaining why I voted to leave on this forum and given my reasons for that!
And if you're 2nd guessing that it's anything to do with trade agreements - again you're as wide of the mark as Petr Cechs clearances!
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I didn't ask why you voted leave. Just what research you'd completed on trade policy (regardless of Brexit).
If you don't have a counter argument fair enough.
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None, I never said, or indicated that my decision was anything to do with, or influenced by trade policy - so why would I research it?
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You stated earlier:
"Why would I want to discuss with people who have absolutely no idea what is going to happen or what the repercussions (if there are to be any)"
Which is factually incorrect. We *do* know what is going to happen given the UK government's objectives.
We also know industries and interconnected supply chains will be disamated outside of the CU and SM.
We know that EU government's Have been advising stakeholders to cut out UK businesses from supply chains. Many UK businesses already unable to secure European contracts post March 2019.
EU preparedness notices:
https://ec.europa.eu/info/brexit/brexit-preparedness_en
There is a multitude of information available if you choose to research.
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I fail to see any correlation between that statement and not voting on trade policy.
And no - I will not be looking at your link.
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I didn't think you would.
You might have learnt something.
posted on 25/8/18
I might have learned some one's opinion!
posted on 25/8/18
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 minutes ago
I might have learned some one's opinion!
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It's an opinion based on factual evidence, and international trade policy (trade law).
Whereas your opinion is based on??
posted on 25/8/18
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 minutes ago
I might have learned some one's opinion!
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It's an opinion based on factual evidence, and international trade policy (trade law).
Whereas your opinion is based on??
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I thought we'd navigated through this one!
Did I forget to mention that I didn't vote on trade policy!
posted on 25/8/18
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 minutes ago
I might have learned some one's opinion!
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It's an opinion based on factual evidence, and international trade policy (trade law).
Whereas your opinion is based on??
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I thought we'd navigated through this one!
Did I forget to mention that I didn't vote on trade policy!
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But everything else stems from trade. GDP, sovereignty, employment, public services, government spending, migration, regulatory framework etc etc.
To disregard trade ignores everything else it underpins.
posted on 25/8/18
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 minutes ago
I might have learned some one's opinion!
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It's an opinion based on factual evidence, and international trade policy (trade law).
Whereas your opinion is based on??
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I thought we'd navigated through this one!
Did I forget to mention that I didn't vote on trade policy!
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But everything else stems from trade. GDP, sovereignty, employment, public services, government spending, migration, regulatory framework etc etc.
To disregard trade ignores everything else it underpins.
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But not to why I voted Leave
posted on 25/8/18
What have you got to worry about Stuart,you took out an Irish passport,if it don't turn out too your liking,just pack a bag , cross the border and hey presto you're back in the EU.
posted on 25/8/18
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 9 minutes ago
What have you got to worry about Stuart,you took out an Irish passport,if it don't turn out too your liking,just pack a bag , cross the border and hey presto you're back in the EU.
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I kinda enjoy living in NI thanks. Not that I've got an undying love for the EU, but the benefits of our membership far outweigh the negatives.
Especially here in NI we have received considerable (ERDF, peace initiative funding etc) support from the EU. Belfast unrecognisable now compared to 20yrs ago. Thanks in part to EU infrastructure funding grants etc.
posted on 25/8/18
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 17 minutes ago
What have you got to worry about Stuart,you took out an Irish passport,if it don't turn out too your liking,just pack a bag , cross the border and hey presto you're back in the EU.
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Dublin would send him back up, mate😁
He would start telling them where they went wrong!!!!
By leaving the British family of nations😉
posted on 25/8/18
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 hours, 30 minutes ago
Good afternoon bluebelles and welcome into the fray!
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All good clean fun.
posted on 25/8/18
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 9 minutes ago
What have you got to worry about Stuart,you took out an Irish passport,if it don't turn out too your liking,just pack a bag , cross the border and hey presto you're back in the EU.
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I kinda enjoy living in NI thanks. Not that I've got an undying love for the EU, but the benefits of our membership far outweigh the negatives.
Especially here in NI we have received considerable (ERDF, peace initiative funding etc) support from the EU. Belfast unrecognisable now compared to 20yrs ago. Thanks in part to EU infrastructure funding grants etc.
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And the fact pira stopped blowing the place up👍
Always helps.
posted on 25/8/18
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 2 minutes ago
I might have learned some one's opinion!
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It's an opinion based on factual evidence, and international trade policy (trade law).
Whereas your opinion is based on??
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I thought we'd navigated through this one!
Did I forget to mention that I didn't vote on trade policy!
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No matter what you say, wwspd knows best.....and even if you do agree with some of his remain narrative, he will continue to talk to posters as if they were primary school kids.
Also, wwspd usually sides with the EU unelected little hitlers, who are only doing their job, but that is to shaft us, block brexit and prevent dissent among other European states.
Tories are doing a poor enough job without folk here cheering on barnier and juncker.
posted on 25/8/18
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 20 hours, 42 minutes ago
The amusing thing is the working class northerners who voted for Brexit will be the ones that get absolutely hammered the worse.
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Manchester and Liverpool overwhelmingly voted remain. It's Little Englanders in the Home Counties that have feked us all over because their houses are paid off and their pensions are secure.
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The north, Midlands and North East, East coast were majority Leave, with a close call in the North west, so not a Home Counties posh brexit vote at all.
If you want to look South East England, London was remain, so hardly backs up your narrative.
Then we have the South West and Wales voting leave, nowhere near the home counties.
Amazingly, four in the backed brexit in Ulster and Scotland, despite massive pressure to vote remain.
So, are we blaming poor northerners or rich home counties homeowners??😁😁😁
Can't have it both ways.
posted on 25/8/18
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 20 hours, 42 minutes ago
The amusing thing is the working class northerners who voted for Brexit will be the ones that get absolutely hammered the worse.
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Manchester and Liverpool overwhelmingly voted remain. It's Little Englanders in the Home Counties that have feked us all over because their houses are paid off and their pensions are secure.
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The north, Midlands and North East, East coast were majority Leave, with a close call in the North west, so not a Home Counties posh brexit vote at all.
If you want to look South East England, London was remain, so hardly backs up your narrative.
Then we have the South West and Wales voting leave, nowhere near the home counties.
Amazingly, four in the backed brexit in Ulster and Scotland, despite massive pressure to vote remain.
So, are we blaming poor northerners or rich home counties homeowners??😁😁😁
Can't have it both ways.
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Four in ten backed brexit in Ulster and Scotland!😟
posted on 25/8/18
I said the Home Counties, not London and I also mentioned the 2 most populous cities in the North of England.
posted on 25/8/18
comment by meuandcoop - Green & Whyte=Shyte (U5293)
posted 23 hours, 13 minutes ago
omment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 1 minute ago
If we are going to be a basket case when we leave the EU,why are they fighting so hard to keep us in,perhaps they don't like to think of us that poor,or is it the £14 billion we put in their pot,and get less than £5 billion back.
Bless em.
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I don't think you're bright enough or have the facts to hand to enter this discussion but rest assured UK gets much more out of EU than that which you imply. You'll realise that around the second week in April.
Bless !
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Coop
Bout ye, brother😊
Admin did a pro and con brexit list, and We pay in more than we get back from the EU.
As more poorer and smaller states joined the EU to receive more back,,so the likes of Germany and the UK carried the likes of Greece,,Eire and Spain.....now East European and central European zones.
Hence why Germany and France are crapping themselves to stop big contributing Brits from leaving.
posted on 25/8/18
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
I said the Home Counties, not London and I also mentioned the 2 most populous cities in the North of England.
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Yes, you wrongly said brexit could be blamed on the Home Counties posh vote, and I corrected you!
The home counties little Englanders are not to blame and were not alone in voting leave, and I pointed out where brexit got majority support, All Over the voting area.
posted on 25/8/18
Croatia, Slovenia and Montenegro are now in the EU.
If that was the case earlier we wouldn't have had the Balkans War and its associated atrocities.
The EU is also about stability, not just money.
posted on 25/8/18
The Home Counties are symbolic of 'Middle England' and has the highest concentration of that demograph.
That's why I used them as an example. That's not to say that the uneducated or work shy who think foreigners are stealing their jobs didn't vote leave en masse.
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