comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Salah's 'penalty' against Palace probably wouldn't have been given if VAR was used.
You can understand some people having an agenda against it.
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It would if the ref's use it correctly.
VAR can only change a decision if the original decision was blatantly wrong, it's not to be used when there's a 50/50 chance. As Sakho kicked Salah twice and there was contact, you can't overturn the original decision.
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 56 minutes ago
Am I the only one that saw that Aguero got his heel clipped as well as getting a shove?
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You’ve got one hell of a view from your seat Boris. I don’t think you’ve missed an injustice to this day
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 56 minutes ago
Am I the only one that saw that Aguero got his heel clipped as well as getting a shove?
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You’ve got one hell of a view from your seat Boris. I don’t think you’ve missed an injustice to this day
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Werent united the luckiest team in the league for decisions last season?
You’ve got one hell of a view from your seat Boris. I don’t think you’ve missed an injustice to this day
My seat for this game was about 5 feet away from my TV.
I go to all our home games and like to think I rarely miss an injustice for either side.
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 55 minutes ago
If VAR was in use Arsenal would have got a penalty against u in the first game of the season. At 2-1 anything can happen and tbf Arsenal had a few chances after that.
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VAR decisions definitely don't change the course of games.
Had Wolves' goal been ruled out, they had a further 33 mins left that they definitely wouldn't have scored in.
When Man City definitely scored shortly after the Wolves goal that didn't stand, that would have definitely have been the 3 points wrapped up for them.
Definitely.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
There is a reason Liverpool fans are against VAR.
They often get the benefit of the doubt and won't want that to change anytime soon. Refs are scared of receiving death threats and who can blame them.
Offside goal against West Ham, soft penalty against Palace. And this is just the beginning.
Compare the tackle on Salah to that on Silva. One was a penalty while the other was waved play on.
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They were the most affected team by wrong decisions last season, so that comment is strange
I hope we don’t get VAR here until they somehow sort out the 10+ minutes we’d lose each game going to these VAR reviews.
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 4 hours, 55 minutes ago
Nothing about how it was a very, very soft foul for the free kick that lead to the City goal!
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That was a foul he streched out nowhere near the ball.
I thought the ref got alot wrong for both. A ref I think isnt bad usually.
The silva pen is worse for me, he is in a perfect spot dont see how he cant give it.
We have history with Martin Atkinson, hopefully we don't get him again for a couple of months.
I can take positives from yesterday tho. We played poor and still created alot and they needed the officals to influence the result.
Laporte is starting to look very good. I knew nothing about him when signed. The talk from people who did, didnt fill me with confidence.
Totally agree.
When we drew against Everton last season we totally dominated with 10 men against a team hell bent on timewasting.
Yesterday we were up against a team who were going for it up until the last 10 minutes.
More than happy with a draw.
I would be happy with a draw. But they didnt score a legit goal. And it was a foul on sterling.
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 6 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
Salah's 'penalty' against Palace probably wouldn't have been given if VAR was used.
You can understand some people having an agenda against it.
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Yet every pundit and ex ref has said it was a pen?
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If salah a pen... how isnt silva or the free kick we scored from.
Im not saying u said it. But a liverpool fan 1st comment did. And pundits said silva pen was soft which is a joke.
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 6 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
Salah's 'penalty' against Palace probably wouldn't have been given if VAR was used.
You can understand some people having an agenda against it.
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Yet every pundit and ex ref has said it was a pen?
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If salah a pen... how isnt silva or the free kick we scored from.
Im not saying u said it. But a liverpool fan 1st comment did. And pundits said silva pen was soft which is a joke.
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It was you who said it. Not biased then...
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 6 hours, 45 minutes ago
I can take positives from yesterday tho. We played poor and still created alot and they needed the officals to influence the result.
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Did they?
That’s a ridiculous comment, given the sequence of goals.
How does a goal scored with the hand of a player who is offside not influence the result? Just out of interest.
comment by bomdia (U13941)
posted 6 hours, 49 minutes ago
How does a goal scored with the hand of a player who is offside not influence the result? Just out of interest.
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That wasn’t the point I was objecting to, even though it’s flawed.
‘They needed...’
It was 0-0 when it happened. Who knows what would have happened had that goal been disallowed?
Absurd to suggest you can just chalk off the goal and it would have just been 1-0 to City.
Well if you watched the game city scoring wasnt a surprise. We created alot of chances.
To say the ref influenced the result isnt ridiculous, because thats exactly what happened.
We will never know what would of happened, we do know it was a clear mistake for 1-0.
You can chat all the bo110cks you like to try and say that isnt an influence to the result, it is.
Try reading what I wrote.
Can you do that?
Yes u think because its 0-0, you cant just say city would of won 0-1. Thats correct. Whats also correct is the ref was the reason wolves scored. So they did influence the result.
So they needed the ref. If we talk about things that actually happened.
My point wasn’t about whether it influenced the result. Read what I actually wrote ffs.
‘They needed the ref’
You don’t know that. Once they got a goal, the game changed. Every chance they would have scored without the offside goal.
We’ll never know.
To say they needed the ref to get a result is a ridiculous comment.
To suggest they didnt need the ref because you dont know what would of happened is quite ridiculous imo.
What we do know is in a game that finished 1-1 wolves needed the officals to make a huge error to score a goal.
Maybe if the officals didnt make the error they wouldnt of needed the ref. But if we talk about what actually happened they needed the huge error to score a goal.
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 7 minutes ago
To suggest they didnt need the ref because you dont know what would of happened is quite ridiculous imo.
What we do know is in a game that finished 1-1 wolves needed the officals to make a huge error to score a goal.
Maybe if the officals didnt make the error they wouldnt of needed the ref. But if we talk about what actually happened they needed the huge error to score a goal.
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Are you seriously that simple?
Once they scored, the game changed. Would they have scored had this goal not been allowed?
No idea.
That is all you need to know.
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posted on 26/8/18
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Salah's 'penalty' against Palace probably wouldn't have been given if VAR was used.
You can understand some people having an agenda against it.
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It would if the ref's use it correctly.
VAR can only change a decision if the original decision was blatantly wrong, it's not to be used when there's a 50/50 chance. As Sakho kicked Salah twice and there was contact, you can't overturn the original decision.
posted on 26/8/18
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 56 minutes ago
Am I the only one that saw that Aguero got his heel clipped as well as getting a shove?
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You’ve got one hell of a view from your seat Boris. I don’t think you’ve missed an injustice to this day
posted on 26/8/18
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 56 minutes ago
Am I the only one that saw that Aguero got his heel clipped as well as getting a shove?
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You’ve got one hell of a view from your seat Boris. I don’t think you’ve missed an injustice to this day
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Werent united the luckiest team in the league for decisions last season?
posted on 26/8/18
You’ve got one hell of a view from your seat Boris. I don’t think you’ve missed an injustice to this day
My seat for this game was about 5 feet away from my TV.
I go to all our home games and like to think I rarely miss an injustice for either side.
posted on 26/8/18
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 55 minutes ago
If VAR was in use Arsenal would have got a penalty against u in the first game of the season. At 2-1 anything can happen and tbf Arsenal had a few chances after that.
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VAR decisions definitely don't change the course of games.
Had Wolves' goal been ruled out, they had a further 33 mins left that they definitely wouldn't have scored in.
When Man City definitely scored shortly after the Wolves goal that didn't stand, that would have definitely have been the 3 points wrapped up for them.
Definitely.
posted on 26/8/18
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
There is a reason Liverpool fans are against VAR.
They often get the benefit of the doubt and won't want that to change anytime soon. Refs are scared of receiving death threats and who can blame them.
Offside goal against West Ham, soft penalty against Palace. And this is just the beginning.
Compare the tackle on Salah to that on Silva. One was a penalty while the other was waved play on.
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They were the most affected team by wrong decisions last season, so that comment is strange
posted on 26/8/18
I hope we don’t get VAR here until they somehow sort out the 10+ minutes we’d lose each game going to these VAR reviews.
posted on 26/8/18
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 4 hours, 55 minutes ago
Nothing about how it was a very, very soft foul for the free kick that lead to the City goal!
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That was a foul he streched out nowhere near the ball.
I thought the ref got alot wrong for both. A ref I think isnt bad usually.
The silva pen is worse for me, he is in a perfect spot dont see how he cant give it.
posted on 26/8/18
We have history with Martin Atkinson, hopefully we don't get him again for a couple of months.
posted on 26/8/18
I can take positives from yesterday tho. We played poor and still created alot and they needed the officals to influence the result.
posted on 26/8/18
Laporte is starting to look very good. I knew nothing about him when signed. The talk from people who did, didnt fill me with confidence.
posted on 26/8/18
Totally agree.
When we drew against Everton last season we totally dominated with 10 men against a team hell bent on timewasting.
Yesterday we were up against a team who were going for it up until the last 10 minutes.
More than happy with a draw.
posted on 26/8/18
I would be happy with a draw. But they didnt score a legit goal. And it was a foul on sterling.
posted on 26/8/18
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 6 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
Salah's 'penalty' against Palace probably wouldn't have been given if VAR was used.
You can understand some people having an agenda against it.
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Yet every pundit and ex ref has said it was a pen?
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If salah a pen... how isnt silva or the free kick we scored from.
Im not saying u said it. But a liverpool fan 1st comment did. And pundits said silva pen was soft which is a joke.
posted on 26/8/18
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 6 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 14 minutes ago
Salah's 'penalty' against Palace probably wouldn't have been given if VAR was used.
You can understand some people having an agenda against it.
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Yet every pundit and ex ref has said it was a pen?
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If salah a pen... how isnt silva or the free kick we scored from.
Im not saying u said it. But a liverpool fan 1st comment did. And pundits said silva pen was soft which is a joke.
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It was you who said it. Not biased then...
posted on 26/8/18
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 6 hours, 45 minutes ago
I can take positives from yesterday tho. We played poor and still created alot and they needed the officals to influence the result.
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Did they?
That’s a ridiculous comment, given the sequence of goals.
posted on 27/8/18
How does a goal scored with the hand of a player who is offside not influence the result? Just out of interest.
posted on 27/8/18
comment by bomdia (U13941)
posted 6 hours, 49 minutes ago
How does a goal scored with the hand of a player who is offside not influence the result? Just out of interest.
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That wasn’t the point I was objecting to, even though it’s flawed.
‘They needed...’
It was 0-0 when it happened. Who knows what would have happened had that goal been disallowed?
Absurd to suggest you can just chalk off the goal and it would have just been 1-0 to City.
posted on 27/8/18
Well if you watched the game city scoring wasnt a surprise. We created alot of chances.
To say the ref influenced the result isnt ridiculous, because thats exactly what happened.
We will never know what would of happened, we do know it was a clear mistake for 1-0.
You can chat all the bo110cks you like to try and say that isnt an influence to the result, it is.
posted on 27/8/18
Try reading what I wrote.
Can you do that?
posted on 27/8/18
Yes u think because its 0-0, you cant just say city would of won 0-1. Thats correct. Whats also correct is the ref was the reason wolves scored. So they did influence the result.
So they needed the ref. If we talk about things that actually happened.
posted on 27/8/18
My point wasn’t about whether it influenced the result. Read what I actually wrote ffs.
posted on 27/8/18
‘They needed the ref’
You don’t know that. Once they got a goal, the game changed. Every chance they would have scored without the offside goal.
We’ll never know.
To say they needed the ref to get a result is a ridiculous comment.
posted on 27/8/18
To suggest they didnt need the ref because you dont know what would of happened is quite ridiculous imo.
What we do know is in a game that finished 1-1 wolves needed the officals to make a huge error to score a goal.
Maybe if the officals didnt make the error they wouldnt of needed the ref. But if we talk about what actually happened they needed the huge error to score a goal.
posted on 27/8/18
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 7 minutes ago
To suggest they didnt need the ref because you dont know what would of happened is quite ridiculous imo.
What we do know is in a game that finished 1-1 wolves needed the officals to make a huge error to score a goal.
Maybe if the officals didnt make the error they wouldnt of needed the ref. But if we talk about what actually happened they needed the huge error to score a goal.
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Are you seriously that simple?
Once they scored, the game changed. Would they have scored had this goal not been allowed?
No idea.
That is all you need to know.
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