I think essentially it means that Giroud was going into the challenge expecting to be fouled. He didn't have an intention to win and come away with the ball.
I think that's what they are insinuating happened.
I thought Dermot’s lousy justification for calling the ref decision on the incident as the “correct decision” was weird. Giroud encroaching Yielding’s space therefore it he was the right to elbow Giroud..... wtf was Dermot smoking when said that
comment by ism (U20893)
posted 31 seconds ago
I thought Dermot’s lousy justification for calling the ref decision on the incident as the “correct decision” was weird. Giroud encroaching Yielding’s space therefore it he was the right to elbow Giroud..... wtf was Dermot smoking when said that
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exactly, apparantly its now not allowed to tackle in the premier league.
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 7 minutes ago
I think essentially it means that Giroud was going into the challenge expecting to be fouled. He didn't have an intention to win and come away with the ball.
I think that's what they are insinuating happened.
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Yeah exactly thats why i assume he threw his cace at Yedlin….what a load of bolloxx...
comment by vavarising (U21731)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 7 minutes ago
I think essentially it means that Giroud was going into the challenge expecting to be fouled. He didn't have an intention to win and come away with the ball.
I think that's what they are insinuating happened.
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Yeah exactly thats why i assume he threw his cace at Yedlin….what a load of bolloxx...
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I think it's a mix. Don't think he intended to get elbowed, but did intend to get fouled. Elbow was completely accidental so can understand why assistant would be reluctant to give it.
One of those grey ones where it could go either way, but either way people won't be happy with the outcome.
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Obviously a foul on Giroud. An elbow to the face is always gna be a foul, interpretation doesn't even come into it.
there is never an excuse for have elbows up in that height, and as the injury was to face/head ref should have stopped the game under any circumstances.
https://www.buzz.ie/football/watch-chelsea-newcastle-equaliser-297222
Yedlin had a perfect view of where Giroud was as he was facing him giroud had his back to Yedlin so how was he encroaching yedlin went into the tackle with his elbow up already no way was that a natural arm movement it was deliberate and dangerous
Having seen the replay a few times it looks very intentional imo, even to it looks to me he moves his already high elbow in a very unnatural way - challenge should be up for review by the fa.
comment by Dave The Jackal (U7727)
posted 4 hours, 6 minutes ago
Clear foul on Giroud ... but then never a pen to Chelsea prior to that. With VAR the game would have finished 0-1.
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I'm still surprised at the amount of people who think that going through a player to play the ball is a fair move...
He clearly did this...hence the pen...correct decision
comment by vavarising (U21731)
posted 3 hours, 25 minutes ago
there is never an excuse for have elbows up in that height, and as the injury was to face/head ref should have stopped the game under any circumstances.
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I'd expect retrospective action to be taken here...
Giroud is 6 foot 4 , its pretty impressive to raise your arm high enough to accidentally elbow him in the face.
I can sort of see why the referee didn't give it as it happened quickly in real time to see it. However when you look at the replay it is a definite foul. Don't think it was particularly intentional therefore no further punishment other than the foul (certainly not a red).
The chelsea pen was 100% a pen. Yes, he gets the ball, but alonso still is in control of the ball until the second scissor motion when he's taken out, hence a penalty all day long
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posted on 27/8/18
I think essentially it means that Giroud was going into the challenge expecting to be fouled. He didn't have an intention to win and come away with the ball.
I think that's what they are insinuating happened.
posted on 27/8/18
I thought Dermot’s lousy justification for calling the ref decision on the incident as the “correct decision” was weird. Giroud encroaching Yielding’s space therefore it he was the right to elbow Giroud..... wtf was Dermot smoking when said that
posted on 27/8/18
comment by ism (U20893)
posted 31 seconds ago
I thought Dermot’s lousy justification for calling the ref decision on the incident as the “correct decision” was weird. Giroud encroaching Yielding’s space therefore it he was the right to elbow Giroud..... wtf was Dermot smoking when said that
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exactly, apparantly its now not allowed to tackle in the premier league.
posted on 27/8/18
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 7 minutes ago
I think essentially it means that Giroud was going into the challenge expecting to be fouled. He didn't have an intention to win and come away with the ball.
I think that's what they are insinuating happened.
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Yeah exactly thats why i assume he threw his cace at Yedlin….what a load of bolloxx...
posted on 27/8/18
comment by vavarising (U21731)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 7 minutes ago
I think essentially it means that Giroud was going into the challenge expecting to be fouled. He didn't have an intention to win and come away with the ball.
I think that's what they are insinuating happened.
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Yeah exactly thats why i assume he threw his cace at Yedlin….what a load of bolloxx...
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I think it's a mix. Don't think he intended to get elbowed, but did intend to get fouled. Elbow was completely accidental so can understand why assistant would be reluctant to give it.
One of those grey ones where it could go either way, but either way people won't be happy with the outcome.
posted on 27/8/18
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posted on 27/8/18
Obviously a foul on Giroud. An elbow to the face is always gna be a foul, interpretation doesn't even come into it.
posted on 27/8/18
there is never an excuse for have elbows up in that height, and as the injury was to face/head ref should have stopped the game under any circumstances.
posted on 27/8/18
https://www.buzz.ie/football/watch-chelsea-newcastle-equaliser-297222
Yedlin had a perfect view of where Giroud was as he was facing him giroud had his back to Yedlin so how was he encroaching yedlin went into the tackle with his elbow up already no way was that a natural arm movement it was deliberate and dangerous
posted on 27/8/18
Having seen the replay a few times it looks very intentional imo, even to it looks to me he moves his already high elbow in a very unnatural way - challenge should be up for review by the fa.
posted on 27/8/18
comment by Dave The Jackal (U7727)
posted 4 hours, 6 minutes ago
Clear foul on Giroud ... but then never a pen to Chelsea prior to that. With VAR the game would have finished 0-1.
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I'm still surprised at the amount of people who think that going through a player to play the ball is a fair move...
He clearly did this...hence the pen...correct decision
posted on 27/8/18
comment by vavarising (U21731)
posted 3 hours, 25 minutes ago
there is never an excuse for have elbows up in that height, and as the injury was to face/head ref should have stopped the game under any circumstances.
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I'd expect retrospective action to be taken here...
posted on 28/8/18
Giroud is 6 foot 4 , its pretty impressive to raise your arm high enough to accidentally elbow him in the face.
posted on 28/8/18
I can sort of see why the referee didn't give it as it happened quickly in real time to see it. However when you look at the replay it is a definite foul. Don't think it was particularly intentional therefore no further punishment other than the foul (certainly not a red).
The chelsea pen was 100% a pen. Yes, he gets the ball, but alonso still is in control of the ball until the second scissor motion when he's taken out, hence a penalty all day long
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