on another topic

listening to west midlands phone in

been 2 WBA fans on so far -

first one - Bartley cant play out from the back

second one - bartley should of been 450k at most, no left food, cant pass for toffee.

interesting - if bielsa thinks the same, fairly obvious why he wasnt bought.

Rich

I’d rather judge on my own eyes

Bartley was no worse than baradi with ball at his feet.

Reason we didn’t sign him, was the cost. Rightly or wrongly it was too high

We were never in for Bartley, he did a job for
us but there was reason why he couldn't get into the first team for a relegated side, Said it all through the closed season, interest created by Ayling's Mrs.
Orta isn't as much of a mug as people think.

And back on topic

What I like is, no stupid cliques, no bull, no saying what you think the fans want to hear.

Honest open football. It’s no secret magically thing he’s doing.

reason why he couldn't get into the first team for a relegated side
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So what’s the reason why Bamford struggled to get a average champ side last season.

You can’t have it both ways

just thought it was interesting mate.

obviouslty people have pushed probably from a leeds apologist agenda, that the reason we didnt sign him was because it wasnt felt he could play out

was just fairly surprised to hear two callers saying the same thing about him , who have seen him play 4-5 times this season

could just be darren moore not got them drilled that well yet. so its looking a bit unconfortable etc.

Rich

You saw him enough at Leeds.

Do you think he couldn’t have played under Bielsa ???

Personally think he would of been fine

like i said, i was just surprised to hear him being slammed for that reason.

You saw him enough at Leeds.

Do you think he couldn’t have played under Bielsa ???

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Yes

aahh.... I hit send before checking .... he COULD have played under Bielsa .... that's what I meant to say

What you on about Wakey, Bamford played 47 times last year for Middlesbrough scoring 12 goals though out of position.
Bartley has had one good season, that was with us, prior to that he was a journeyman, last year he was injured a lot but there's very little evidence that he's better than what we have, Bera included.
The guys from WBA are confirming that in their view he hasn't been good enough to date.
I think if he hadn't had the good season with us, WBA wouldn't have touched him with a barge pole.
Probably could have played under Bielsa, him and Ayling clearly have a good rapport and that helps but we need to sign players who are going to take us up and then have take us forward.
If Swansea didn't think he was good enough to get them out of this league and our goal was to finish above them, why the hell would he be good enough for us.
A bullet dodged.

I wasn't in favour of Bartley coming back. Injury-related issues plus, as stated above, he didn't get an automatic place in a team heading in the wrong direction.

Plus, Swansea City didn't appear to want to keep him either!!

He's a good player. I suspect Bielsa would have played him had he been here but he was in no rush to add a new CB to the current squad.

I would be delighted to get the Christmas without having a CB crisis and the lack of a back up costing us points.

We cannot fault Berra at all, (lucky against Boro not to give away a pen), playing out of position he has been immense (bar the odd mind-freeze)

els

Your missing the point.

Bamford struggled most of last season, does that make him a bad player ???

Pretty sure that's not what you said.

The guys from WBA are saying that Bartley isn't as good as they expected and not worth what they paid. They were sold a pup.

I said, and have said for some time we were never in for Bartley. They would have looked at him sure but I reckon they are shrewder than we have given them credit for. We need to improve on what we have and other than a good season with us, Bartley has shown no evidence that he is anything other than a journeyman CB.

Not sure where the Bamford analogy comes from. At this point however if you were to ask whether Bamford represents value for money I'd say no.

Both Bamford and Bartley have time to turn that around, it's a long season.

Bartley was excellent for us and would have fit into this team easy.

Maybe it just suited him at Leeds. Not seen him play this season.

Bartley was better on the ball than our current centrebacks. Could play a great pass over the top too.

Could be that he just hit a purple patch at Leeds because he's not really done it much elsewhere.

I wouldn't have wanted Bartley back after he turned us down last season.

Don't need players who don't really want to be here.

Bartley looked good in the one WBA game I saw this season.