Mulgrew is not good enough to wear a Celtic shirt.

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People say our board do not push the boat out because Scottish Football has no money. I am sorry, but we have two billionaires on the board, if they really loved our club they would be willing to put in £5million each without expecting an immediate return on it by selling players.

Henrik,

These guys aren't billionaires by chucking money after diminishing returns.

They're also not 'fans'.

I am silly for even thinking they were supporters, a supporter would not have allowed the criminality of the January transfer window in 2009 to occur. A supporter would not sell the club's top scorer one year later and then pull the wool over the fans eyes by signing Robbie Keane, and a supporter would not take cheap jibes at Rangers when his club have not won the league for three seasons!

i seem to remember lots of timms on here after our draw with hearts, having a right good gloat with things like told you so

As I said we're all entitled to our opinions but this team have played some lovely football this season only to be found wanting when the chips are down.
What the team needs is a leader but that has to be someone who's guaranteed a regular place in the team and who can inspire the others , any suggestions?

Morbhoy, I am stumped on that one and have been since Strachan left.

I was very critical of the Caldwell and McManus partnership at the time; but I would take them back in a heartbeat over the current defence.

The spine of Celtic's team lacks heart. I do not like Brown as captain; but do not see any one else taking the leadership.

That's the problem Henrik, I don't think we have anyone who can do the job.

Sad isn't it when you would even consider that things were better with Caldwell & McManus?

We need to buy in January if it's not possible before then, there must be a transfer window open somewhere with a couple of really good CBs, but how long have we been saying that?

What the team needs is a leader but that has to be someone who's guaranteed a regular place in the team and who can inspire the others , any suggestions?

sammy, loovens or erm broony

I think that Mjallby should be training the young defenders better, in my opinion. Rogne and Toshney could be good young defenders for the club, if they are taught well.

There has to be a fault in the coaching somewhere, because I was watching Soccer Saturday a few weeks back and they said Caldwell was rock solid with Wigan, yet at Celtic I had to watch him from behind the couch.
I also watched Darren O Dea for the national team and he played really well, there is a fault in the coaching somewhere. People like Loovens and Majstorovic will always be bad players, but with the likes of Wilson and Rogne I think they could be developed into better players.

Again I agree Henrik.
I thought that Mjalby would be good in organising our defence but so far it hasn't worked out.
Rogne is always injured and seems a bit slow.

If he can't do it we need to find someone who can. I would have thought that Lenny would have followed O'Neill and gone for Balde types but so far he hasn't or hasn't been allowed to.

Henrik i think part of the problem is that some players simply cant handle playing for the OF or the brutal style of SPL football there have been many OF flops who have gone on to do very well the most recent is Charlie Adams!!

Ritchie, whilst I agree with the point it is not as if the likes of Loovens and Majstorovic do not dish out their fair share of brutal tackles.

Defensively all I want is: two centre backs who can form a partnership together; can mark man for man; pass the ball to a decent standard and have an average level of pace. Surely these are the most basic levels of performance required to even call yourself a defender?

I believe football is quite easy, and it is just made hard by coaches who desire plaudits for having some sort of tactical nous.

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I do not want to start a petty debate here, but if Rangers got an alleged bid of £1.5million accepted for Carlos Cuellar, why did we not bid £1.6million. He is a good defender and has already proven it in the SPL. I do not suggest this just to annoy Rangers, he is a player within our budget.

Fellows calm down, the centre half is not necessary the main problem.
Last season we had a very good/holding mid field. When Brown Kayal and Ledley played together they were very quick to get back. I don't see the same eagerness in Kayal for example in getting back. Mc Manus and Caldwell had a very ineffective mid field in front of them.
O'Dea I think should be a Celtic Player.
The two goals from the corner kicks, I think were not the centre defenders fault.
I would hate to see us playing against Rangers without 4 or 5 tall players.
One of our biggest problems yesterday was Lafferty, the big long animal, playing against our wee left back.

I was very surprised by the team selection yesterday and I think Lenny needs to take a lesson from it. Loovens should not be on the park against ICT nevermind Rangers. Wilson and Mulgrew need to be our first choice CB partnership and given time to develop an understanding. The LB (not trying to spell his name) looked well out of his depth yesterday despite the goal, but better players than him have struggled in their first OF game and he's just keeping Izzy's spot warm till he gets back. I cannot understand for the life of me how Ledley didn't take any part (unless injured) and why our best striking partnership (Stokes and Hopper) were not played from the start. Lenny is overthinking things, get your best players on the park and let the chips fall where they may.

Well played Rangers, and it was refreshing to see a more positive playing style from them, though I hated the result. They looked right up for it, and we sadly did not.

Articmonkey.
If you are an example of a modern Celtic fan I think it is not one bit wonder Celtic are going through a sticky part.
Celtic fans should be sick with disappointment that them lot beat us.
No true Celtic fan could right the phrase well played Rangers.
You are either a disgrace or an infidel.