comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 33 minutes ago
We all acknowledge there are risks with Luiz. But when he is on his game he is still our best CB imo, and apart from Azpi, only one who can hit long and accurate from the back. I am pretty certain he will start.
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Could make for a fascinating game, imo.
I've not really seen much of Chelsea yet this season. Is there any formation in which you could see Jorginho and Cesc starting together against a side like Liverpool? Could anyone see it working if they had Kante to mop up behind them, or would the risk outweigh the potential rewards too heavily?
Ping-pong, I don't think you'd need that many long range passers, but having at least one defender capable of occasionally picking out your wide men from deep if Jorginho is being closed out could be a potent weapon.
I've certainly seen Luiz play that sort of ball more than once, don't really know Rudiger too well.
Any team that has Hazard cannot and should not be written off
Hazard and Willian will expose those Liverpool full back who are show their naivety but do have a lot of endeavour
Mane will need to be disciplined and get back and defend too.
Key for me, other than Mr Special Hazard, are the runs Morata makes behind the center backs and Azpi picking him out or Moses whipping in a cross, or if he plays, Fabregas pass
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 33 minutes ago
We all acknowledge there are risks with Luiz. But when he is on his game he is still our best CB imo, and apart from Azpi, only one who can hit long and accurate from the back. I am pretty certain he will start.
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Could make for a fascinating game, imo.
I've not really seen much of Chelsea yet this season. Is there any formation in which you could see Jorginho and Cesc starting together against a side like Liverpool? Could anyone see it working if they had Kante to mop up behind them, or would the risk outweigh the potential rewards too heavily?
Ping-pong, I don't think you'd need that many long range passers, but having at least one defender capable of occasionally picking out your wide men from deep if Jorginho is being closed out could be a potent weapon.
I've certainly seen Luiz play that sort of ball more than once, don't really know Rudiger too well.
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Jorginho might actually enjoy being pressed in Chelsea's home fixture against Liverpool . While there's a more chance he'll make mistakes in that situation, there'll be more opportunity for him to demonstrate his coolness and set a high passing tempo, making football pass-and-move rather than pass-and-pass.
In either situation, whether we are pinning back the opposition or being pressed, it's difficult to make a reasonable argument for using Kante in the deepest midfield role. Sarri is a manager who prioritises possession play rather Kante's primary strengths of running, tackling and intercepting.
There remains a place for Kante in our midfield, particularly in big matches against energetic opposition, but anyone who suggests Sarri should be using Kante rather than Jorginho in a deeper position is ignoring everything we've seen from both players over the last three seasons. And also everything Sarri is trying to achieve at Chelsea.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 hour ago
Toddles, fat fingers. Sorry. Admin can you re-instate Tiddles post
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comment by ism (U20893)
posted 6 minutes ago
anyone who suggests Sarri should be using Kante rather than Jorginho in a deeper position is ignoring everything we've seen from both players over the last three seasons
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I had an Aragonés-type midfield in mind, where a Senna-type holder who can also get forward would slot in behind a Xavi-Iniesta type pairing.
I suppose 'everything' clearly isn't enough in my case.
Also the type of MF 3 in which Toure initially anchored quite successfully for the other two early on for Pep's Barça.
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posted on 29/9/18
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 33 minutes ago
We all acknowledge there are risks with Luiz. But when he is on his game he is still our best CB imo, and apart from Azpi, only one who can hit long and accurate from the back. I am pretty certain he will start.
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Could make for a fascinating game, imo.
I've not really seen much of Chelsea yet this season. Is there any formation in which you could see Jorginho and Cesc starting together against a side like Liverpool? Could anyone see it working if they had Kante to mop up behind them, or would the risk outweigh the potential rewards too heavily?
Ping-pong, I don't think you'd need that many long range passers, but having at least one defender capable of occasionally picking out your wide men from deep if Jorginho is being closed out could be a potent weapon.
I've certainly seen Luiz play that sort of ball more than once, don't really know Rudiger too well.
posted on 29/9/18
Any team that has Hazard cannot and should not be written off
Hazard and Willian will expose those Liverpool full back who are show their naivety but do have a lot of endeavour
Mane will need to be disciplined and get back and defend too.
Key for me, other than Mr Special Hazard, are the runs Morata makes behind the center backs and Azpi picking him out or Moses whipping in a cross, or if he plays, Fabregas pass
posted on 29/9/18
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 33 minutes ago
We all acknowledge there are risks with Luiz. But when he is on his game he is still our best CB imo, and apart from Azpi, only one who can hit long and accurate from the back. I am pretty certain he will start.
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Could make for a fascinating game, imo.
I've not really seen much of Chelsea yet this season. Is there any formation in which you could see Jorginho and Cesc starting together against a side like Liverpool? Could anyone see it working if they had Kante to mop up behind them, or would the risk outweigh the potential rewards too heavily?
Ping-pong, I don't think you'd need that many long range passers, but having at least one defender capable of occasionally picking out your wide men from deep if Jorginho is being closed out could be a potent weapon.
I've certainly seen Luiz play that sort of ball more than once, don't really know Rudiger too well.
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Jorginho might actually enjoy being pressed in Chelsea's home fixture against Liverpool . While there's a more chance he'll make mistakes in that situation, there'll be more opportunity for him to demonstrate his coolness and set a high passing tempo, making football pass-and-move rather than pass-and-pass.
In either situation, whether we are pinning back the opposition or being pressed, it's difficult to make a reasonable argument for using Kante in the deepest midfield role. Sarri is a manager who prioritises possession play rather Kante's primary strengths of running, tackling and intercepting.
There remains a place for Kante in our midfield, particularly in big matches against energetic opposition, but anyone who suggests Sarri should be using Kante rather than Jorginho in a deeper position is ignoring everything we've seen from both players over the last three seasons. And also everything Sarri is trying to achieve at Chelsea.
posted on 29/9/18
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 hour ago
Toddles, fat fingers. Sorry. Admin can you re-instate Tiddles post
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posted on 29/9/18
comment by ism (U20893)
posted 6 minutes ago
anyone who suggests Sarri should be using Kante rather than Jorginho in a deeper position is ignoring everything we've seen from both players over the last three seasons
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I had an Aragonés-type midfield in mind, where a Senna-type holder who can also get forward would slot in behind a Xavi-Iniesta type pairing.
I suppose 'everything' clearly isn't enough in my case.
posted on 29/9/18
Also the type of MF 3 in which Toure initially anchored quite successfully for the other two early on for Pep's Barça.
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