I understand the point with Bakayoko, but it would have made absolute no sense for us to gamble with Abraham over Morata.
Both players were loaned out, and both rose through the ranks at big teams. However, Morata has shown himself to be more capable than Abraham tbh, and thats not because the path was made easier for him.
Tammy is still 21, so there is time for him to develop, but for me he has shown that he is not ready even to be a starting striker for a mid table side in the premier league.
Any gripes with Sarri at all? In spite being unbeaten I do think CHO and Ampadu should have featured more in Europe and League Cup.
I would agree with this bit, the team seems so jaded and frankly its probably due to lack of rotation.
Tammy is still 21, so there is time for him to develop, but for me he has shown that he is not ready even to be a starting striker for a mid table side in the premier league
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This is the one problem i have though, he hasn't shown for us because he hasn't been given a chance, yet Morata can have 50-60 chances+ and still get more even though we know he's $hit, and Giroud is good but just can't score consistently enough.
Why not give Abraham 10 games and if he doesn't show anything then you farm him out on loan etc same with other players like Cho, why do we have to have Willian who does fack all 7 games out of every 10 without giving Cho a chance.
I get they might look raw or not good enough but that's for other teams not for our team,
We should literally say we'll give a youngster 10 games in a row or say 10 out of the next 13/14 matches and see how they fare, if they don't cut it then we'll loan them out for the time being or sell etc.
There's just no plan or logic though, we should be doing it my method
So 4 times a season / once every 2 months we have 4 youngsters being given a chance to breakthrough.
I'm bored of seeing the same stale crap players like the willians and morata get game after game after game
Would certainly help the progression a hell of a lot and even getting 1 in 4 unearthed would be better than the 0 in 4 we do now
What do we have to lose? The younger player might be a bit crap and a liability? Big deal we can faciliate one young player / liability in the team, i mean we have 2 most weeks with morata and willian
The Europa League campaign is the perfect opportunity to give players minutes and see what they can do.
Sometimes though, it needs circumstances...
For all of the goodwill to Poch for promoting youth, he has been very hesitant to do so for some time. A lot of our promising young players have stagnated
It took injuries for him to play young Foyth last week at Wolves, in which he conceded two penalties. Kudos to him for starting him again at Palace though, when we had other options
Morata is a water of time he seems to have no hunger or desire to improve and be the best. He needs to go.
I have 0 complaints about sarri. Plus he has plays youth and rotated this year.
Rlc, Barkley, Christensen all got solid time this year, Cho has got a few minutes, all while navigating injuries to Pedro and hazard. And we are unbeaten in all competitions.
I have never seen anything in Abraham’s game to suggest he would be a top striker.
Nathan Ake as well, recalled by Conte to basically make, what, 2-3 appearances in the final 6 months of the season? After starting every game at Bournemouth for the first half of the season. Now being linked with a whole host of big clubs. This one is perhaps less tenuous as Rudiger is a good buy and now we’ve switched from 3atb Ake doesn’t have a case to start. But players like Ake, Chalobah, easily had a case to at least be seen as squad players to supplement.
Also at the time Bakayoko signed a lot of us weren’t happy OP. A smaller minority mentioned the fact that ‘why don’t we just use Chalobah’ but it kind of got knocked down, including a articles making fun of Ray Winston for saying it on TalkSport. He didn’t articulate his point well but I get what he meant - if Chalobah was at Monaco the guy would be seen as ‘good’ as Bakayoko is.
I would say we as fans overrate our own more if anything. The big test with our loanes is try to imagine they were owned by their loan club and we made a bid, how would you feel?
Tammy is the prime example, if he was owned by Swansea, couldn't get a game despite Swanseas lack of goals and we signed him he would be a meme like Papy was and the new go to signing to prove the board lost the plot.
Even Ruben, as good as he did at Palace would we have been not only begging for the board to not only sign a converted CM playing LM who doesn't fit our new managers system but demanding he starts aswell if he was owned by Palace?
Bridge spot on.
Also Loftus cheeks time at palaceis quickly becoming
The most overrated season going. 2 goals in 30 appearances or something
I don’t necessarily agree Tammy should be starting but I genuinely think he’d be a good squad player for big clubs.
I think you're absolutely correct Flash.
I'm 99.9% happy with Maurizio, my only criticism would be the lack of use of CHO.
Probably not the fault of Sarri but we'd have been in no worse position trying Tammy out. It's a complete win win situation, if he's not good enough, we're in no worse position; if he proved to be better than what ee currently have then we're all happy - apart from Morata and Giroud of course!
CHO should at least have been on the match v Osaka Everton. Thats all I have to say on this matter.
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posted on 11/11/18
I understand the point with Bakayoko, but it would have made absolute no sense for us to gamble with Abraham over Morata.
Both players were loaned out, and both rose through the ranks at big teams. However, Morata has shown himself to be more capable than Abraham tbh, and thats not because the path was made easier for him.
Tammy is still 21, so there is time for him to develop, but for me he has shown that he is not ready even to be a starting striker for a mid table side in the premier league.
posted on 11/11/18
Any gripes with Sarri at all? In spite being unbeaten I do think CHO and Ampadu should have featured more in Europe and League Cup.
I would agree with this bit, the team seems so jaded and frankly its probably due to lack of rotation.
posted on 11/11/18
Tammy is still 21, so there is time for him to develop, but for me he has shown that he is not ready even to be a starting striker for a mid table side in the premier league
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This is the one problem i have though, he hasn't shown for us because he hasn't been given a chance, yet Morata can have 50-60 chances+ and still get more even though we know he's $hit, and Giroud is good but just can't score consistently enough.
Why not give Abraham 10 games and if he doesn't show anything then you farm him out on loan etc same with other players like Cho, why do we have to have Willian who does fack all 7 games out of every 10 without giving Cho a chance.
I get they might look raw or not good enough but that's for other teams not for our team,
We should literally say we'll give a youngster 10 games in a row or say 10 out of the next 13/14 matches and see how they fare, if they don't cut it then we'll loan them out for the time being or sell etc.
There's just no plan or logic though, we should be doing it my method
posted on 11/11/18
So 4 times a season / once every 2 months we have 4 youngsters being given a chance to breakthrough.
I'm bored of seeing the same stale crap players like the willians and morata get game after game after game
posted on 11/11/18
Would certainly help the progression a hell of a lot and even getting 1 in 4 unearthed would be better than the 0 in 4 we do now
posted on 11/11/18
What do we have to lose? The younger player might be a bit crap and a liability? Big deal we can faciliate one young player / liability in the team, i mean we have 2 most weeks with morata and willian
posted on 12/11/18
The Europa League campaign is the perfect opportunity to give players minutes and see what they can do.
Sometimes though, it needs circumstances...
For all of the goodwill to Poch for promoting youth, he has been very hesitant to do so for some time. A lot of our promising young players have stagnated
It took injuries for him to play young Foyth last week at Wolves, in which he conceded two penalties. Kudos to him for starting him again at Palace though, when we had other options
posted on 12/11/18
Morata is a water of time he seems to have no hunger or desire to improve and be the best. He needs to go.
posted on 12/11/18
I have 0 complaints about sarri. Plus he has plays youth and rotated this year.
Rlc, Barkley, Christensen all got solid time this year, Cho has got a few minutes, all while navigating injuries to Pedro and hazard. And we are unbeaten in all competitions.
I have never seen anything in Abraham’s game to suggest he would be a top striker.
posted on 12/11/18
Nathan Ake as well, recalled by Conte to basically make, what, 2-3 appearances in the final 6 months of the season? After starting every game at Bournemouth for the first half of the season. Now being linked with a whole host of big clubs. This one is perhaps less tenuous as Rudiger is a good buy and now we’ve switched from 3atb Ake doesn’t have a case to start. But players like Ake, Chalobah, easily had a case to at least be seen as squad players to supplement.
Also at the time Bakayoko signed a lot of us weren’t happy OP. A smaller minority mentioned the fact that ‘why don’t we just use Chalobah’ but it kind of got knocked down, including a articles making fun of Ray Winston for saying it on TalkSport. He didn’t articulate his point well but I get what he meant - if Chalobah was at Monaco the guy would be seen as ‘good’ as Bakayoko is.
posted on 12/11/18
I would say we as fans overrate our own more if anything. The big test with our loanes is try to imagine they were owned by their loan club and we made a bid, how would you feel?
Tammy is the prime example, if he was owned by Swansea, couldn't get a game despite Swanseas lack of goals and we signed him he would be a meme like Papy was and the new go to signing to prove the board lost the plot.
Even Ruben, as good as he did at Palace would we have been not only begging for the board to not only sign a converted CM playing LM who doesn't fit our new managers system but demanding he starts aswell if he was owned by Palace?
posted on 12/11/18
Bridge spot on.
Also Loftus cheeks time at palaceis quickly becoming
The most overrated season going. 2 goals in 30 appearances or something
posted on 12/11/18
I don’t necessarily agree Tammy should be starting but I genuinely think he’d be a good squad player for big clubs.
posted on 13/11/18
I think you're absolutely correct Flash.
I'm 99.9% happy with Maurizio, my only criticism would be the lack of use of CHO.
Probably not the fault of Sarri but we'd have been in no worse position trying Tammy out. It's a complete win win situation, if he's not good enough, we're in no worse position; if he proved to be better than what ee currently have then we're all happy - apart from Morata and Giroud of course!
posted on 13/11/18
CHO should at least have been on the match v Osaka Everton. Thats all I have to say on this matter.
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