comment by The Gentleman Entrepreneur (U13709)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ledders the King - 2017/18 FF Enders league champion 🏆 (U20121)
posted 22 minutes ago
If the clubs have 250k swishing around to pay a bonus to someone who technically doesn’t actually work for them (not as if he is the clubs chief exec), then they can easily use a similar sum to chip in for ticket prices.
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I'm sorry but this is nonsense.
Firstly, he is partially responsible for the billions that PL clubs will earn in tv rights and prize money that will come from all over the world so yes, he does work for PL clubs in that respect. I'm sure if you spoke to the clubs in La Liga and gave them the option, they would happily part with 250k to be in our situation.
Whether you like it or not he has been a great servant to your club.
Lastly, 250k would not go very far at all to subsidise ticket prices for a significant number of fans.
You issue with ticket prices has nothing to do with Scudamore, he has made funds available so that clubs can reduce prices, it's not his fault that they've opted not to and who can blame them? Fans seem happy enough to pay it!
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You calling it nonsense yet being unable to comprehend or see that I said he ‘technically doesn’t work for the clubs’ is nonsense in itself. If a company union leader left the company, those members of said union wouldn’t be chipping in for his bonus as they aren’t his employers are they? I certainly haven’t seen that happen within my company and it’s union.
The tickets were an example, I didn’t say they had to use it solely for that purpose, not that it matters how far it stretches as it’s clearly still an easily-expendable sum for the club.
Fans seem happy enough to pay it? Yes some do, others clearly don’t.
This sort of thing is just ridiculous.
If he was that clever a businessman he would have linked his salary to performance including a % of each TV deal agreed rather than begging clubs for a retirement present.
comment by Benched (U7195)
posted 4 minutes ago
This sort of thing is just ridiculous.
If he was that clever a businessman he would have linked his salary to performance including a % of each TV deal agreed rather than begging clubs for a retirement present.
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This comment is stupid.
That would be even worse. Do people not understand capitalism and business? Football isn't a non-profit industry and as outrageous as it may sound he has been involved in the huge influx on money which clubs have benefitted from.
£250k is nothing to them but everybody wants a handout. It's not fair but it's the real world.
comment by Ledders the King - 2017/18 FF Enders league champion 🏆 (U20121)
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It depends how you define 'technically' and whether that's actually important because I could say technically, he does work for the clubs and technically the club work for the PL...
The PL is made up of the all football clubs who play under it so, what's good for the PL is good for clubs as you can see by your increasing revenue every year which is down to the PL.
Imagine if individual clubs could negotiate their own independent TV deals... where would that have left 90% of premier league clubs?
I don't think it's fair to compare this situation to a union because it's not the same thing at all.
Surely the blame here lies with Bruce Buck, the Chelsea chairman who is good "friends" with Scudamore and is the one who has requested this as a leaving present from PL clubs.
Abhorrent amount really but are we actually surprised. It's a results business and Scudamore has clearly delivered in his 19 years at the helm. Does he really need this amount of money as a leaving prezzie? No. Will he get it? Yes.
happens in all businesses. didnt google give the guy that created android a $70m payoff after he stepped down after a sexual assault charge?
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That was for his investment in the Android project, which is worth billions to google. Quite small change in the bigger scheme of things for these tech companies.
Think the person replacing him was getting an annual salary of $70m as well
comment by Kav H (U19426)
posted 7 minutes ago
Surely the blame here lies with Bruce Buck, the Chelsea chairman who is good "friends" with Scudamore and is the one who has requested this as a leaving present from PL clubs.
Abhorrent amount really but are we actually surprised. It's a results business and Scudamore has clearly delivered in his 19 years at the helm. Does he really need this amount of money as a leaving prezzie? No. Will he get it? Yes.
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Do you really need all of the money you get paid to survive? No. Do you deserve it? Probably. Will you get it? Yes. Is that good? Yes.
comment by The Gentleman Entrepreneur (U13709)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kav H (U19426)
posted 7 minutes ago
Surely the blame here lies with Bruce Buck, the Chelsea chairman who is good "friends" with Scudamore and is the one who has requested this as a leaving present from PL clubs.
Abhorrent amount really but are we actually surprised. It's a results business and Scudamore has clearly delivered in his 19 years at the helm. Does he really need this amount of money as a leaving prezzie? No. Will he get it? Yes.
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Do you really need all of the money you get paid to survive? No. Do you deserve it? Probably. Will you get it? Yes. Is that good? Yes.
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Is Scudamore’s salary slightly more than what’s needed to survive? Yes
Is selling the Premier League to TV companies really that hard?
It's the individual clubs that have made it so attractive and remember, this is the guy who was pushing for a 39th game to be played overseas, an idea everyone hated apart from the money men.
Would most clubs, being PLCs, not require to gain shareholder approval to give such large sums away to someone not in the clubs employment?
I can think of millions of other people ahead of Scudamore that have enabled clubs to benefit from multi £billion TV deals.
They are called football fans and when are they going to get their golden handshake?
Where do you think each £250k club handout comes from?
Lower ticket prices or golden handshakes? Let the fans vote.
comment by The Gentleman Entrepreneur (U13709)
posted 8 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Ledders the King - 2017/18 FF Enders league champion 🏆 (U20121)
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It depends how you define 'technically' and whether that's actually important because I could say technically, he does work for the clubs and technically the club work for the PL...
The PL is made up of the all football clubs who play under it so, what's good for the PL is good for clubs as you can see by your increasing revenue every year which is down to the PL.
Imagine if individual clubs could negotiate their own independent TV deals... where would that have left 90% of premier league clubs?
I don't think it's fair to compare this situation to a union because it's not the same thing at all.
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What’s good for the PL doesn’t and hasn’t necessarily been of benefit to all the current PL clubs though has it? The likes of Brighton and Huddersfield have been PL clubs for about 18 months as opposed to the ever-presents such as spurs, arsenal, Chelsea.... while there are clubs in the championship such as Villa who spent the majority of their time in the PL who haven’t been asked to pay a penny.
How many of the present PL teams are in debt of some sort?
comment by Benji Veniamin (U19953)
posted 13 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 13 minutes ago
He's retiring at 59, 7 years before most people his age.
I'm pretty sure he'll be getting a pension as well.
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If owners want to give him a bung, let them but no way should it come out of club funds.
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You guys specialize in making payments not from your clubs funds, how do you suggest they do it?
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You could ask him to replace Jose he could be the pension one
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Or an asteroid wipes us out
80 x 3000 = 240000.
That 250k could be used to help cover costs to away fans to get the quickest yet priciest forms of transport back from away grounds at the other end of the country at times that aren’t convient. For example Newcastle fans who travelled to Wembley last season for an 8pm midweek kick off.
comment by Ledders the King - 2017/18 FF Enders league champion 🏆 (U20121)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
80 x 3000 = 240000.
That 250k could be used to help cover costs to away fans to get the quickest yet priciest forms of transport back from away grounds at the other end of the country at times that aren’t convient. For example Newcastle fans who travelled to Wembley last season for an 8pm midweek kick off.
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From a business perspective, the fans are going to go anyway, so why do they need to do that?
Football isn't a charity even though football clubs do a huge amount of charity work, this is just standard British envy of somebody who has worked hard to earn money, and no doubt the majority of it will end up with the tax man anyway.
He did his job and got paid for it, very handsomely, totally needs an extra handout
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by Ledders the King - 2017/18 FF Enders league champion 🏆 (U20121)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
80 x 3000 = 240000.
That 250k could be used to help cover costs to away fans to get the quickest yet priciest forms of transport back from away grounds at the other end of the country at times that aren’t convient. For example Newcastle fans who travelled to Wembley last season for an 8pm midweek kick off.
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From a business perspective, the fans are going to go anyway, so why do they need to do that?
Football isn't a charity even though football clubs do a huge amount of charity work, this is just standard British envy of somebody who has worked hard to earn money, and no doubt the majority of it will end up with the tax man anyway.
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It's all greed, it's what's humans do
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Ledders the King - 2017/18 FF Enders league champion 🏆 (U20121)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
80 x 3000 = 240000.
That 250k could be used to help cover costs to away fans to get the quickest yet priciest forms of transport back from away grounds at the other end of the country at times that aren’t convient. For example Newcastle fans who travelled to Wembley last season for an 8pm midweek kick off.
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From a business perspective, the fans are going to go anyway, so why do they need to do that?
Football isn't a charity even though football clubs do a huge amount of charity work, this is just standard British envy of somebody who has worked hard to earn money, and no doubt the majority of it will end up with the tax man anyway.
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Whether or not they’re going to go is immaterial. It’s called giving something back or a nice gesture? You know, similar to what they’re doing for Scudamore.
Nothing to do with some so-called ‘British envy’. You don’t know me to claim that so take your wildly inaccurate assumptions and use them on someone else.
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posted on 13/11/18
comment by The Gentleman Entrepreneur (U13709)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ledders the King - 2017/18 FF Enders league champion 🏆 (U20121)
posted 22 minutes ago
If the clubs have 250k swishing around to pay a bonus to someone who technically doesn’t actually work for them (not as if he is the clubs chief exec), then they can easily use a similar sum to chip in for ticket prices.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm sorry but this is nonsense.
Firstly, he is partially responsible for the billions that PL clubs will earn in tv rights and prize money that will come from all over the world so yes, he does work for PL clubs in that respect. I'm sure if you spoke to the clubs in La Liga and gave them the option, they would happily part with 250k to be in our situation.
Whether you like it or not he has been a great servant to your club.
Lastly, 250k would not go very far at all to subsidise ticket prices for a significant number of fans.
You issue with ticket prices has nothing to do with Scudamore, he has made funds available so that clubs can reduce prices, it's not his fault that they've opted not to and who can blame them? Fans seem happy enough to pay it!
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You calling it nonsense yet being unable to comprehend or see that I said he ‘technically doesn’t work for the clubs’ is nonsense in itself. If a company union leader left the company, those members of said union wouldn’t be chipping in for his bonus as they aren’t his employers are they? I certainly haven’t seen that happen within my company and it’s union.
The tickets were an example, I didn’t say they had to use it solely for that purpose, not that it matters how far it stretches as it’s clearly still an easily-expendable sum for the club.
Fans seem happy enough to pay it? Yes some do, others clearly don’t.
posted on 13/11/18
This sort of thing is just ridiculous.
If he was that clever a businessman he would have linked his salary to performance including a % of each TV deal agreed rather than begging clubs for a retirement present.
posted on 13/11/18
comment by Benched (U7195)
posted 4 minutes ago
This sort of thing is just ridiculous.
If he was that clever a businessman he would have linked his salary to performance including a % of each TV deal agreed rather than begging clubs for a retirement present.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This comment is stupid.
That would be even worse. Do people not understand capitalism and business? Football isn't a non-profit industry and as outrageous as it may sound he has been involved in the huge influx on money which clubs have benefitted from.
£250k is nothing to them but everybody wants a handout. It's not fair but it's the real world.
posted on 13/11/18
comment by Ledders the King - 2017/18 FF Enders league champion 🏆 (U20121)
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It depends how you define 'technically' and whether that's actually important because I could say technically, he does work for the clubs and technically the club work for the PL...
The PL is made up of the all football clubs who play under it so, what's good for the PL is good for clubs as you can see by your increasing revenue every year which is down to the PL.
Imagine if individual clubs could negotiate their own independent TV deals... where would that have left 90% of premier league clubs?
I don't think it's fair to compare this situation to a union because it's not the same thing at all.
posted on 13/11/18
Surely the blame here lies with Bruce Buck, the Chelsea chairman who is good "friends" with Scudamore and is the one who has requested this as a leaving present from PL clubs.
Abhorrent amount really but are we actually surprised. It's a results business and Scudamore has clearly delivered in his 19 years at the helm. Does he really need this amount of money as a leaving prezzie? No. Will he get it? Yes.
posted on 13/11/18
happens in all businesses. didnt google give the guy that created android a $70m payoff after he stepped down after a sexual assault charge?
———————
That was for his investment in the Android project, which is worth billions to google. Quite small change in the bigger scheme of things for these tech companies.
Think the person replacing him was getting an annual salary of $70m as well
posted on 13/11/18
comment by Kav H (U19426)
posted 7 minutes ago
Surely the blame here lies with Bruce Buck, the Chelsea chairman who is good "friends" with Scudamore and is the one who has requested this as a leaving present from PL clubs.
Abhorrent amount really but are we actually surprised. It's a results business and Scudamore has clearly delivered in his 19 years at the helm. Does he really need this amount of money as a leaving prezzie? No. Will he get it? Yes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you really need all of the money you get paid to survive? No. Do you deserve it? Probably. Will you get it? Yes. Is that good? Yes.
posted on 13/11/18
comment by The Gentleman Entrepreneur (U13709)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kav H (U19426)
posted 7 minutes ago
Surely the blame here lies with Bruce Buck, the Chelsea chairman who is good "friends" with Scudamore and is the one who has requested this as a leaving present from PL clubs.
Abhorrent amount really but are we actually surprised. It's a results business and Scudamore has clearly delivered in his 19 years at the helm. Does he really need this amount of money as a leaving prezzie? No. Will he get it? Yes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you really need all of the money you get paid to survive? No. Do you deserve it? Probably. Will you get it? Yes. Is that good? Yes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is Scudamore’s salary slightly more than what’s needed to survive? Yes
posted on 13/11/18
Is selling the Premier League to TV companies really that hard?
It's the individual clubs that have made it so attractive and remember, this is the guy who was pushing for a 39th game to be played overseas, an idea everyone hated apart from the money men.
posted on 13/11/18
Would most clubs, being PLCs, not require to gain shareholder approval to give such large sums away to someone not in the clubs employment?
posted on 14/11/18
I can think of millions of other people ahead of Scudamore that have enabled clubs to benefit from multi £billion TV deals.
They are called football fans and when are they going to get their golden handshake?
Where do you think each £250k club handout comes from?
Lower ticket prices or golden handshakes? Let the fans vote.
posted on 14/11/18
comment by The Gentleman Entrepreneur (U13709)
posted 8 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Ledders the King - 2017/18 FF Enders league champion 🏆 (U20121)
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It depends how you define 'technically' and whether that's actually important because I could say technically, he does work for the clubs and technically the club work for the PL...
The PL is made up of the all football clubs who play under it so, what's good for the PL is good for clubs as you can see by your increasing revenue every year which is down to the PL.
Imagine if individual clubs could negotiate their own independent TV deals... where would that have left 90% of premier league clubs?
I don't think it's fair to compare this situation to a union because it's not the same thing at all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What’s good for the PL doesn’t and hasn’t necessarily been of benefit to all the current PL clubs though has it? The likes of Brighton and Huddersfield have been PL clubs for about 18 months as opposed to the ever-presents such as spurs, arsenal, Chelsea.... while there are clubs in the championship such as Villa who spent the majority of their time in the PL who haven’t been asked to pay a penny.
posted on 14/11/18
How many of the present PL teams are in debt of some sort?
posted on 14/11/18
comment by Benji Veniamin (U19953)
posted 13 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 13 minutes ago
He's retiring at 59, 7 years before most people his age.
I'm pretty sure he'll be getting a pension as well.
'
If owners want to give him a bung, let them but no way should it come out of club funds.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You guys specialize in making payments not from your clubs funds, how do you suggest they do it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You could ask him to replace Jose he could be the pension one
posted on 14/11/18
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 14/11/18
Or an asteroid wipes us out
posted on 14/11/18
80 x 3000 = 240000.
That 250k could be used to help cover costs to away fans to get the quickest yet priciest forms of transport back from away grounds at the other end of the country at times that aren’t convient. For example Newcastle fans who travelled to Wembley last season for an 8pm midweek kick off.
posted on 14/11/18
comment by Ledders the King - 2017/18 FF Enders league champion 🏆 (U20121)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
80 x 3000 = 240000.
That 250k could be used to help cover costs to away fans to get the quickest yet priciest forms of transport back from away grounds at the other end of the country at times that aren’t convient. For example Newcastle fans who travelled to Wembley last season for an 8pm midweek kick off.
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From a business perspective, the fans are going to go anyway, so why do they need to do that?
Football isn't a charity even though football clubs do a huge amount of charity work, this is just standard British envy of somebody who has worked hard to earn money, and no doubt the majority of it will end up with the tax man anyway.
posted on 14/11/18
He did his job and got paid for it, very handsomely, totally needs an extra handout
posted on 14/11/18
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by Ledders the King - 2017/18 FF Enders league champion 🏆 (U20121)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
80 x 3000 = 240000.
That 250k could be used to help cover costs to away fans to get the quickest yet priciest forms of transport back from away grounds at the other end of the country at times that aren’t convient. For example Newcastle fans who travelled to Wembley last season for an 8pm midweek kick off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From a business perspective, the fans are going to go anyway, so why do they need to do that?
Football isn't a charity even though football clubs do a huge amount of charity work, this is just standard British envy of somebody who has worked hard to earn money, and no doubt the majority of it will end up with the tax man anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's all greed, it's what's humans do
posted on 14/11/18
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Ledders the King - 2017/18 FF Enders league champion 🏆 (U20121)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
80 x 3000 = 240000.
That 250k could be used to help cover costs to away fans to get the quickest yet priciest forms of transport back from away grounds at the other end of the country at times that aren’t convient. For example Newcastle fans who travelled to Wembley last season for an 8pm midweek kick off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From a business perspective, the fans are going to go anyway, so why do they need to do that?
Football isn't a charity even though football clubs do a huge amount of charity work, this is just standard British envy of somebody who has worked hard to earn money, and no doubt the majority of it will end up with the tax man anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whether or not they’re going to go is immaterial. It’s called giving something back or a nice gesture? You know, similar to what they’re doing for Scudamore.
Nothing to do with some so-called ‘British envy’. You don’t know me to claim that so take your wildly inaccurate assumptions and use them on someone else.
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