comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 9 seconds ago
Your username is one of his song titles from the Illinois album. 'Tis a great album by the way.

How can you not know who Sufjan is when you've plucked a rather obscure song title of his as a username?
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I'm joking! I love sufjan Stevens

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comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 43 minutes ago
Self. My apologies, I miss sarcasm and the intent behind some comments on this site.

Glad to hear you love him. Not many people seem to have ever heard of him.

Illinois was such a fantastic album. Favourite album/song of yours?
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so hard to chose!

If I were to list them then it would go something like:

1. Carrie and Lowell
2. Illinois
3. All Delighted People
4. Age of Adz
5. Seven Swans
6. Michigan

Best songs are:

1. Impossible Soul
2. Should have Known Better
3. The Predatory Wasps are out to get us!
4. I want to be well
5. Seven Swans
6. Djohariah
7. Come On! Feel the Illinois
8. In the Devils Territory
9. John My Beloved
10. Futile Devices

Extremely hard to pick the best songs, there is so much I'm missing from that list.

Generally, almost everything the guy has made is a masterpiece, and he is probably one of the most unrecognised musicians alive today!

Whats yours then?

Red how you doing?

Knew that comment would upset the snowflakes on here, if you are so concerned about free movement then can I suggest you take the chance to move out before the 29th, you can then live in the EU and enjoy all the 'benefits' of being a serf.

comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 6 minutes ago
Red how you doing?

Knew that comment would upset the snowflakes on here, if you are so concerned about free movement then can I suggest you take the chance to move out before the 29th, you can then live in the EU and enjoy all the 'benefits' of being a serf.
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Have you read the UK/EU withdrawal agreement text?

FFS I thought the topic had moved on from Brexit to Sufjan Stevens.

Look Brexit means Brexit - move on!

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comment by The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Entire Civilization and Still Feel Good About Yourself in the Morning, or, We Apologize for the Inconvenience but You're Going to Have to Leave Now, or, 'I Have Fought the Big Knives and Will Continue t (U16342)
posted 1 minute ago
FFS I thought the topic had moved on from Brexit to Sufjan Stevens.

Look Brexit means Brexit - move on!
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I have a feeling you're going to be a tad disappointed

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comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 2 minutes ago
Stuart, what's your opinion on Sufjan giving up on his 50 states-50 albums concept?
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Sufjan means Sufjan.

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comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 31 minutes ago
Stuart, I was on the verge of diving back in to the thread but just saw Sizz is likely to be back soon...

Maybe you can adapt the gym analogy to help him understand not to be an incendiaryhahaha
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There's only so far a gym analogy can take you!

comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 17 minutes ago
That's an excellent pair of lists. I'm pretty much in agreement with your album list. Maybe switch one or two places, but overall I think you've nailed it.

The song list is an impossible task. I've a few different choices but there's so many I cannot settle on a top ten. Massive kudos for The Predatory Wasps. I love that song.

One song that stands out is Casimir Pulaski Day. I'm the son of an Anglican church minister and a close friend of mine died of cancer a few months before I first heard that song. Needless to say it resonated with my circumstances at the time.

Stevens is such a thoughtful writer. On another level to most these days.
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Casimir Pulanski tells an amazing story, I've never really experienced anything comparable. However, the lyrics are so immersive. Same goes for the Predatory Wasps.

His lyricism is what ties his style, and make his music so identifiable, despite his music varying very differently from album to album.

Maybe you two could meet for a cup of tea and a biscuit?

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comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Ent... (U16342)
posted 10 hours, 17 minutes ago

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Casimir Pulanski tells an amazing story, I've never really experienced anything comparable. However, the lyrics are so immersive. Same goes for the Predatory Wasps.

His lyricism is what ties his style, and make his music so identifiable, despite his music varying very differently from album to album.
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Great comments again. Couldn't agree more. The flux he seems to be in regarding to his faith is a unique insight that we don't see in most music these days.

So many of his songs grow on me, the more I listen and comprehend the meanings behind the lyrics.

Totally stoked to have a Sufjan chat with someone on here. I'd definitely have a cuppa and biscuit or two, but would prefer a beer or three.

Who were you before the name change that caught my eye?
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I was Broaquin/Joaquin before this

comment by The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Ent... (U16342)
posted 22 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 17 minutes ago
That's an excellent pair of lists. I'm pretty much in agreement with your album list. Maybe switch one or two places, but overall I think you've nailed it.

The song list is an impossible task. I've a few different choices but there's so many I cannot settle on a top ten. Massive kudos for The Predatory Wasps. I love that song.

One song that stands out is Casimir Pulaski Day. I'm the son of an Anglican church minister and a close friend of mine died of cancer a few months before I first heard that song. Needless to say it resonated with my circumstances at the time.

Stevens is such a thoughtful writer. On another level to most these days.
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Casimir Pulanski tells an amazing story, I've never really experienced anything comparable. However, the lyrics are so immersive. Same goes for the Predatory Wasps.

His lyricism is what ties his style, and make his music so identifiable, despite his music varying very differently from album to album.
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Casimir Pulaski maybe?

Is May the 21st century Machiavelli.

I only ask because the only way out for her premiership is if we have the deal voted down in parliament and she comes back and says you don't want a bad deal so we go for no deal.

Win win in my opinion.

No deal would actually deliver what we voted for.

No deal would actually deliver what we voted for.

By 'we', you mean a very slender majority?

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comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 8 hours, 8 minutes ago
Is May the 21st century Machiavelli.

I only ask because the only way out for her premiership is if we have the deal voted down in parliament and she comes back and says you don't want a bad deal so we go for no deal.

Win win in my opinion.

No deal would actually deliver what we voted for.


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Actually not. There are folks that when voting leave, thought they’d be voting for leaving with a deal.

Obviously bought the lies that the EU need Britain more than Britain needs the EU, and that a free trade deal with the EU would be the easiest trade deal in history.

comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 10 hours, 5 minutes ago
Is May the 21st century Machiavelli.

I only ask because the only way out for her premiership is if we have the deal voted down in parliament and she comes back and says you don't want a bad deal so we go for no deal.

Win win in my opinion.

No deal would actually deliver what we voted for.


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I suggest you read the UK government's own preparedness notices:

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8397

Many sectors (manufacturing, logistics, avaition, security, etc) that rely on joint EU cooperation would come to a complete standstill.

Both the EU and the UK would suffer catastrophic economic consequences.

Years after the referendum, some still believe the cessation of over 750 treaties which have underpinned the fabric of the UK economy, can be terminated without consequences, demonstrates nothing but ignorance.

So because it is difficult we shouldn't do it and allow the EU to subjugate us further.

No deal is not the apocalypse that every one is predicting. Business will adapt or go to the wall.

Brexitiers have been lied to by the metro élite for years about the way we have been sucked into the European Empire.

We voted to leave yet the metro élite have continued to stall and fudge so we are stuck in an even worse position.

If you want to be a part of the future European Empire emigrate now while you still have the chance.