I know it’s a bit early for this but I’m bored with the pathetic comments from the WUM’s (Wind Up Muppets) on the amazing match day thread reducing halfy’s super work to mundane.
If they start their nonsense on here they are getting the bullet!
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comment by GeminMallorca (U18318)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
I know it’s a bit early for this but I’m bored with the pathetic comments from the WUM’s (Wind Up Muppets) on the amazing match day thread reducing halfy’s super work to mundane.
If they start their nonsense on here they are getting the bullet!
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comment by GeminMallorca (U18318)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
I know it’s a bit early for this but I’m bored with the pathetic comments from the WUM’s (Wind Up Muppets) on the amazing match day thread reducing halfy’s super work to mundane.
If they start their nonsense on here they are getting the bullet!
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Savage !
Didn’t We have a shocking November last year ?
Last November was ok as I recall, the preceding ones were awful.
Here's hoping for another Friday night thriller, although I'd take a boring 1-0 right now.Cardiff are adjusting to the league now and are looking far more dangerous than they were a month ago. We need to be back on the pace and put them in their place. We cant let negativity and doubt creep in, and definitely need the first goal.
I've been looking at the comments about us not having a plan B and comparing it to the top clubs not just in the Premier League. In conclusion, it seems to me that most teams stick to their system, which means that it's our players that are having difficulty when other teams try to stifle our style. It is they who have to adjust in individual matches and not let our opponents get the better of us.
If it means that our players cannot overcome this problem, then it is they that have to be replaced. Our Portuguese midfield should be more than capable of handling themselves against most opponents and if they cannot, then they have to be replaced. Likewise with the forwards and defence.
They were all good enough in the Championship and should, with their International experience, be able to cope with most teams in the Premiership, more so with the additions made during the summer.
Sunday was all down to the players, not the manager and if they didn't get a stern warning from Nuno, I'd be very surprised.
It's just as well that we started well and that there are other teams who are also finding it hard to get points.
We have 6 matches in December and one coming up on Friday night. I'd like to think we can at least get 6-8 points from them to keep us on track with more than a point a game and thus survival.
Didn't think I'd be stating this, after our good start to the season.
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Some idiots just don't heed warnings do they
comment by Sir Halfy ...Premier League Thread Master (U11570)
posted about 3 hours ago
Didn’t We have a shocking November last year ?
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Fri 03.11.17 Fulham (H) won 2-0
Sat 18.11.17 Reading (A) won 2-0
Wed 22.11.17 Leeds (H) won 4-1
Sat 25.11.17 Bolton (H) won 5-1
12 points, 13 goals, 2 conceded would seem a pretty successful November to me
comment by wolfieintheSunshineState (U16306)
posted about an hour ago
I've been looking at the comments about us not having a plan B and comparing it to the top clubs not just in the Premier League. In conclusion, it seems to me that most teams stick to their system, which means that it's our players that are having difficulty when other teams try to stifle our style. It is they who have to adjust in individual matches and not let our opponents get the better of us.
If it means that our players cannot overcome this problem, then it is they that have to be replaced. Our Portuguese midfield should be more than capable of handling themselves against most opponents and if they cannot, then they have to be replaced. Likewise with the forwards and defence.
They were all good enough in the Championship and should, with their International experience, be able to cope with most teams in the Premiership, more so with the additions made during the summer.
Sunday was all down to the players, not the manager and if they didn't get a stern warning from Nuno, I'd be very surprised.
It's just as well that we started well and that there are other teams who are also finding it hard to get points.
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It would seem that that the skipper agrees with you wolfie.
Due to both that defeat and Friday night's trip to Cardiff being televised, though, Wolves have a shorter-than-usual turnaround between weekend fixtures as they look to bounce back, something which Coady sees as a positive.
"We were really poor today," the captain admitted. "Every one of the players needs to take responsibility for that. That's probably the poorest we've been all season, if I'm being honest. It wasn't good from our point of view and Huddersfield came with a game plan, stuck to it and did really well."
"It wasn't like us at all - we were sloppy on the ball and we didn't really get phases of play together, so we've got to go back to the drawing board."
"Any game is a game to look forward to in the Premier League, and I think we're all quite happy that the Cardiff game is coming sooner rather than later. It's the worst feeling in football, getting beaten, but we've got to go again - Friday is a big game for us."
comment by GeminMallorca (U18318)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Sir Halfy ...Premier League Thread Master (U11570)
posted about 3 hours ago
Didn’t We have a shocking November last year ?
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Fri 03.11.17 Fulham (H) won 2-0
Sat 18.11.17 Reading (A) won 2-0
Wed 22.11.17 Leeds (H) won 4-1
Sat 25.11.17 Bolton (H) won 5-1
12 points, 13 goals, 2 conceded would seem a pretty successful November to me
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No Gemlad, the one before that ?
We deffo had a bit of a wobble around this time
Not sure I can go along with the view that the performance on Saturday was the players fault not the managers fault. What about the fact we played really well at Arsenal, was that the players fault or the managers fault? Or is it that if we play well its because we have a great manager but if we play badly its the players fault? Reality is they are all in this together and they all deserve praise when we do well and all deserve criticism when we are poor. Has the manager got the preparation right after an international break? Who knows.
And of course every team needs to have a Plan B so as not to become predictable. We give Nuno credit for everyone knowing what their position is and what their job is. But its also the case that every other team in the Premier League knows how we play, and because we don't change they know how to prepare to play against us. The poorer teams will clearly look to stifle what we are good at, the stronger teams probably think they can concentrate on their own games and not worry about little Wolves. And maybe that's why we do better against the good teams. To say the other teams stick to one system just isn't true. Spurs came to Molineux without Eriksen and Alli and brought in Lamella who is a totally different player who takes up much more forward positions. Our changes are usually like for like and always built around 343
Agree with all that DJ. My point in my other thread is just what you said - the better sides don't need to adapt to our system, they just play their own game. That won't normally wok for poorer sides who, therefore, try a system to stifle our midfield. Some sides, Watford and Huddersfield, pull it off. Some poorer sides possibly don't have the players to adapt.
Why am I not surprised that yet again DJ has to contradict not only what I have stated, but also our captain.
A manager picks a side and plays to his preferred system. It's the eleven players on the pitch that try and execute those plans. Whether we play well or badly is down to those players on the pitch and it's completely out of the managers hands.
Almost all of the top sides in this country and abroad play the same system and yes they are predictable. The difference is, they have much better players than we do at the moment. Our problem has nearly always been that we are not consistent enough and that's down to individual players not turning up on any particular day. It has naff all to do with the manager.
So, if I may be as bold as to suggest your first paragraph is total bollox, whereas your second one ( bar the first sentence) is pretty much what I've said in the past.
By the way, I said MOST teams stick to the same system and they do so because they don't need to change, due to the fact that they have those better players.
Wolfie, you're right that it was definitely down to the players on Sunday. I just feel we might have done better in that game if we had played a bit more direct, which is not our normal style, and certainly not so entertaining.
I agree with Spangles with regard to Nuno having to take part of the blame. He sent the same (all but 1) players out to play the same system as always which involves dominating ball possession. Huddersfield were sent out to get right in the faces of the Wolves players and pressurise them all over the park. Because the Huddersfield players did exactly what they were told to do the Wolves players were unable to do what they were told to do.
In simple terms David Wagner out though Nuno and his players outplayed ours!
If the PLAYERS were unable to do what the manager wanted, then how on earth is it the manager's fault Gem.
We've played the same way all season and from what I'm reading on here, the only time we've played badly was against Watford and Huddersfield. Both times the system was right but the players didn't turn up on the day.
comment by wolfieintheSunshineState (U16306)
posted 17 minutes ago
If the PLAYERS were unable to do what the manager wanted, then how on earth is it the manager's fault Gem.
We've played the same way all season and from what I'm reading on here, the only time we've played badly was against Watford and Huddersfield. Both times the system was right but the players didn't turn up on the day.
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I think I just explained that. If the manager tells the players to play a certain way but it is not possible for the players to carry out his instructions because the opposition are stifling them then it is up to the manager to change things. Nuno changed some players in the second half but continued with the same system which had not worked for 45 minutes. The manager has to take part of the blame for that and in fact Nuno pretty much said the same thing.
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posted on 26/11/18
I know it’s a bit early for this but I’m bored with the pathetic comments from the WUM’s (Wind Up Muppets) on the amazing match day thread reducing halfy’s super work to mundane.
If they start their nonsense on here they are getting the bullet!
posted on 26/11/18
Live @ https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewLiveArticle/399316
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posted on 26/11/18
Adders
posted on 26/11/18
comment by GeminMallorca (U18318)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
I know it’s a bit early for this but I’m bored with the pathetic comments from the WUM’s (Wind Up Muppets) on the amazing match day thread reducing halfy’s super work to mundane.
If they start their nonsense on here they are getting the bullet!
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posted on 27/11/18
comment by GeminMallorca (U18318)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
I know it’s a bit early for this but I’m bored with the pathetic comments from the WUM’s (Wind Up Muppets) on the amazing match day thread reducing halfy’s super work to mundane.
If they start their nonsense on here they are getting the bullet!
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Savage !
posted on 27/11/18
Didn’t We have a shocking November last year ?
posted on 27/11/18
Good, not savage.
posted on 27/11/18
Last November was ok as I recall, the preceding ones were awful.
Here's hoping for another Friday night thriller, although I'd take a boring 1-0 right now.Cardiff are adjusting to the league now and are looking far more dangerous than they were a month ago. We need to be back on the pace and put them in their place. We cant let negativity and doubt creep in, and definitely need the first goal.
posted on 27/11/18
I've been looking at the comments about us not having a plan B and comparing it to the top clubs not just in the Premier League. In conclusion, it seems to me that most teams stick to their system, which means that it's our players that are having difficulty when other teams try to stifle our style. It is they who have to adjust in individual matches and not let our opponents get the better of us.
If it means that our players cannot overcome this problem, then it is they that have to be replaced. Our Portuguese midfield should be more than capable of handling themselves against most opponents and if they cannot, then they have to be replaced. Likewise with the forwards and defence.
They were all good enough in the Championship and should, with their International experience, be able to cope with most teams in the Premiership, more so with the additions made during the summer.
Sunday was all down to the players, not the manager and if they didn't get a stern warning from Nuno, I'd be very surprised.
It's just as well that we started well and that there are other teams who are also finding it hard to get points.
posted on 27/11/18
We have 6 matches in December and one coming up on Friday night. I'd like to think we can at least get 6-8 points from them to keep us on track with more than a point a game and thus survival.
Didn't think I'd be stating this, after our good start to the season.
posted on 27/11/18
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posted on 27/11/18
Some idiots just don't heed warnings do they
posted on 27/11/18
comment by Sir Halfy ...Premier League Thread Master (U11570)
posted about 3 hours ago
Didn’t We have a shocking November last year ?
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Fri 03.11.17 Fulham (H) won 2-0
Sat 18.11.17 Reading (A) won 2-0
Wed 22.11.17 Leeds (H) won 4-1
Sat 25.11.17 Bolton (H) won 5-1
12 points, 13 goals, 2 conceded would seem a pretty successful November to me
posted on 27/11/18
comment by wolfieintheSunshineState (U16306)
posted about an hour ago
I've been looking at the comments about us not having a plan B and comparing it to the top clubs not just in the Premier League. In conclusion, it seems to me that most teams stick to their system, which means that it's our players that are having difficulty when other teams try to stifle our style. It is they who have to adjust in individual matches and not let our opponents get the better of us.
If it means that our players cannot overcome this problem, then it is they that have to be replaced. Our Portuguese midfield should be more than capable of handling themselves against most opponents and if they cannot, then they have to be replaced. Likewise with the forwards and defence.
They were all good enough in the Championship and should, with their International experience, be able to cope with most teams in the Premiership, more so with the additions made during the summer.
Sunday was all down to the players, not the manager and if they didn't get a stern warning from Nuno, I'd be very surprised.
It's just as well that we started well and that there are other teams who are also finding it hard to get points.
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It would seem that that the skipper agrees with you wolfie.
Due to both that defeat and Friday night's trip to Cardiff being televised, though, Wolves have a shorter-than-usual turnaround between weekend fixtures as they look to bounce back, something which Coady sees as a positive.
"We were really poor today," the captain admitted. "Every one of the players needs to take responsibility for that. That's probably the poorest we've been all season, if I'm being honest. It wasn't good from our point of view and Huddersfield came with a game plan, stuck to it and did really well."
"It wasn't like us at all - we were sloppy on the ball and we didn't really get phases of play together, so we've got to go back to the drawing board."
"Any game is a game to look forward to in the Premier League, and I think we're all quite happy that the Cardiff game is coming sooner rather than later. It's the worst feeling in football, getting beaten, but we've got to go again - Friday is a big game for us."
posted on 27/11/18
comment by GeminMallorca (U18318)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Sir Halfy ...Premier League Thread Master (U11570)
posted about 3 hours ago
Didn’t We have a shocking November last year ?
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Fri 03.11.17 Fulham (H) won 2-0
Sat 18.11.17 Reading (A) won 2-0
Wed 22.11.17 Leeds (H) won 4-1
Sat 25.11.17 Bolton (H) won 5-1
12 points, 13 goals, 2 conceded would seem a pretty successful November to me
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No Gemlad, the one before that ?
posted on 27/11/18
We deffo had a bit of a wobble around this time
posted on 27/11/18
Not sure I can go along with the view that the performance on Saturday was the players fault not the managers fault. What about the fact we played really well at Arsenal, was that the players fault or the managers fault? Or is it that if we play well its because we have a great manager but if we play badly its the players fault? Reality is they are all in this together and they all deserve praise when we do well and all deserve criticism when we are poor. Has the manager got the preparation right after an international break? Who knows.
And of course every team needs to have a Plan B so as not to become predictable. We give Nuno credit for everyone knowing what their position is and what their job is. But its also the case that every other team in the Premier League knows how we play, and because we don't change they know how to prepare to play against us. The poorer teams will clearly look to stifle what we are good at, the stronger teams probably think they can concentrate on their own games and not worry about little Wolves. And maybe that's why we do better against the good teams. To say the other teams stick to one system just isn't true. Spurs came to Molineux without Eriksen and Alli and brought in Lamella who is a totally different player who takes up much more forward positions. Our changes are usually like for like and always built around 343
posted on 27/11/18
Agree with all that DJ. My point in my other thread is just what you said - the better sides don't need to adapt to our system, they just play their own game. That won't normally wok for poorer sides who, therefore, try a system to stifle our midfield. Some sides, Watford and Huddersfield, pull it off. Some poorer sides possibly don't have the players to adapt.
posted on 27/11/18
Why am I not surprised that yet again DJ has to contradict not only what I have stated, but also our captain.
A manager picks a side and plays to his preferred system. It's the eleven players on the pitch that try and execute those plans. Whether we play well or badly is down to those players on the pitch and it's completely out of the managers hands.
Almost all of the top sides in this country and abroad play the same system and yes they are predictable. The difference is, they have much better players than we do at the moment. Our problem has nearly always been that we are not consistent enough and that's down to individual players not turning up on any particular day. It has naff all to do with the manager.
So, if I may be as bold as to suggest your first paragraph is total bollox, whereas your second one ( bar the first sentence) is pretty much what I've said in the past.
By the way, I said MOST teams stick to the same system and they do so because they don't need to change, due to the fact that they have those better players.
posted on 27/11/18
Wolfie, you're right that it was definitely down to the players on Sunday. I just feel we might have done better in that game if we had played a bit more direct, which is not our normal style, and certainly not so entertaining.
posted on 27/11/18
I agree with Spangles with regard to Nuno having to take part of the blame. He sent the same (all but 1) players out to play the same system as always which involves dominating ball possession. Huddersfield were sent out to get right in the faces of the Wolves players and pressurise them all over the park. Because the Huddersfield players did exactly what they were told to do the Wolves players were unable to do what they were told to do.
In simple terms David Wagner out though Nuno and his players outplayed ours!
posted on 27/11/18
If the PLAYERS were unable to do what the manager wanted, then how on earth is it the manager's fault Gem.
We've played the same way all season and from what I'm reading on here, the only time we've played badly was against Watford and Huddersfield. Both times the system was right but the players didn't turn up on the day.
posted on 27/11/18
comment by wolfieintheSunshineState (U16306)
posted 17 minutes ago
If the PLAYERS were unable to do what the manager wanted, then how on earth is it the manager's fault Gem.
We've played the same way all season and from what I'm reading on here, the only time we've played badly was against Watford and Huddersfield. Both times the system was right but the players didn't turn up on the day.
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I think I just explained that. If the manager tells the players to play a certain way but it is not possible for the players to carry out his instructions because the opposition are stifling them then it is up to the manager to change things. Nuno changed some players in the second half but continued with the same system which had not worked for 45 minutes. The manager has to take part of the blame for that and in fact Nuno pretty much said the same thing.
posted on 27/11/18
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