"Stoke manager Tony Pulis absolutely despised Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger, hated the way he played."

Weird, maybe I'm biased, but I don't get this at all.


"...it cost Ramsey a year of his career.'"

And the rest, it took him years to really get back on track. Long after he was running around again did he actually get his confidence back, you could see it.

HenrysCat you’re right Pulis was a weirdo :

It can be argued that it is a manager's job to get players geared up for a huge clash and it is commonplace for them to get overly enthusiastic.

Kitson, however, believes Pulis's vendetta against Wenger and his style of football crossed a line.

'It seemed to me that was as a direct result of players reacting to their manager's over enthusiasm and buying into that whole thing and carrying out his instructions and crossing the line.

'But it just went too far. His desperation to beat Wenger and justify his way of playing football. It crossed the line and went too far.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6445937/Tony-Pulis-control-Ryan-Shawcross-broke-Arsenals-Aaron-Ramseys-leg-Dave-Kitson.html

Probably told his players to go full blooded into challenges, nothing at all wrong with that
Accidents happen in football

Do people really think Pulis said to his players "Go out there and break some legs"?

Seriously?

San Miguel

A Pulis player is explaining in no uncertain terms that the team were influenced to go over the the top by their manager. Read it again.

WHAT WENGER SAID AFTER THE GAME

'It is a bad break, and Aaron will be transferred to hospital in London to see if emergency surgery is needed.

'This is a young player who has been kicked out of the game. I'm shocked, that wasn't football. If I have to live with that, I don't want to be involved in the game. My players were too upset to celebrate.

'This is the third player - Eduardo, Diaby and now Ramsey – we've lost to tackles that are unacceptable, and spare me the articles tomorrow about how nice Shawcross is because we had all that with Eduardo.'

Pulis wasn't the only one. The thought process was to kick Arsenal out of games, even Fergie resorted to it.
The refs are heavily culpable here, they let so much go and then would bring a red out for any sign of Arsenal retaliation.
After the invincibles season it reached a peak.

So glad we have players like Sokratis, Lichtsteiner and Torreira who will stand up redress the balance.

Very true D’Jeezus.
Out of Ferguson, Pulis and Mourinho I would say old red nose was the worst culprit :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mM747L9Wf8M

Arsenal players of course we're all saints, Lauren, Keown etc all attacking RVN

San Miguel a push and a slap was the least that the lying, cheating horse deserved.

comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Arsenal players of course we're all saints, Lauren, Keown etc all attacking RVN
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Lol still talking the same tripe from old BBC. How many of those players broke anybody’s legs? And all those players were punished by the FA along with the club who (rightfully) were crucified by the media at the time.

Old 606*

comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 24 seconds ago
Arsenal players of course we're all saints, Lauren, Keown etc all attacking RVN
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No one said that, and of course that is another example of Arsenal getting far harsher punishments than the opponents. Vieira sent off for horse face kneeing him to the back of the head then going for a second attack with Vieira down.

comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Arsenal players of course we're all saints, Lauren, Keown etc all attacking RVN
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Lol still talking the same tripe from old BBC. How many of those players broke anybody’s legs? And all those players were punished by the FA along with the club who (rightfully) were crucified by the media at the time.
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Rightfully being the operative word, disgraceful what Wenger sent his dogs out to do that day, out of control doesn't even scratch the surface

I don’t think Wenger set his team out to attack RVN after the match.

What his team did do though was come away unbeaten en route to the shiny gold premier league trophy that still grates you to this day

Then we have Campbell deliberately elbowing Solskjaer square in the face

How Wenger even dared moan about teams roughing his own up beggars belief

comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
I don’t think Wenger set his team out to attack RVN after the match.

What his team did do though was come away unbeaten en route to the shiny gold premier league trophy that still grates you to this day
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Grates?

Only Arsenal fans mention it cos it's just a league title, nothing more

Every time the invincibles are discussed you pipe up trying to discredit them.

Just admit it, it kills you that Wenger achieved something that Ferguson couldn’t

comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 19 seconds ago
Every time the invincibles are discussed you pipe up trying to discredit them.

Just admit it, it kills you that Wenger achieved something that Ferguson couldn’t
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What?

He won the league that year, well done

It's hardly a treble

49 league games unbeaten. Never done before in England. Probably never will be done, certainly not by Ferguson

Like his whiskeys - he bought a treble.

And the reality is that Guardiola is making Ferguson’s tenure look very basic.

comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
I don’t think Wenger set his team out to attack RVN after the match.

What his team did do though was come away unbeaten en route to the shiny gold premier league trophy that still grates you to this day
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Grates?

Only Arsenal fans mention it cos it's just a league title, nothing more
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It's more than just a title, they won it woithout losing a game, an exceptional achievement.

comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 38 seconds ago
49 league games unbeaten. Never done before in England. Probably never will be done, certainly not by Ferguson
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I think he'll just have to settle for 13 League titles, 2 Champions Leagues, 5 FA cups, 4 League cups, 1 cup winners cup and a few others

comment by Stranglers (U21996)
posted 1 minute ago
Like his whiskeys - he bought a treble.

And the reality is that Guardiola is making Ferguson’s tenure look very basic.
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Not true

comment by Stranglers (U21996)
posted 3 minutes ago
Like his whiskeys - he bought a treble.

And the reality is that Guardiola is making Ferguson’s tenure look very basic.
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Yeah his 1 league title and 1 league cup is a hard act to follow

And the reality is that Guardiola is making Ferguson’s tenure look very basic.


This is a very odd comment, can you elaborate on what you mean?