1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. Man Utd are a disgrace. The way that year after year they are allowed to get away with multi million mistakes like Berbatov, Veron, Di Maria, Martial, Falcao, Fred, Lukaku and Pogba whereas we have to persevere with our investments is disgusting.
They really should give us a guard of honour as well the three points.
"They really should give us a guard of honour as well the three points."
Liverpool have looked pretty average while picking up 3 points. So either their luck will run out and they;ll slip back, or they'll find the performance to go with the results and seriously threaten, and perhaps overtake, City.
Either way they're a notch ahead of the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, imo.
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 10 minutes ago
Liverpool have looked pretty average while picking up 3 points. So either their luck will run out and they;ll slip back, or they'll find the performance to go with the results and seriously threaten, and perhaps overtake, City.
Either way they're a notch ahead of the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, imo.
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They have been very good defensively and I think this is what made the difference so far.
The Xmas period and possibly injuries to key player should bring some to whether or not they are still contender.
City and Liverpool are ahead of Arsenal. I agree. The rest not.
comment by 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 ...IAWT... 🇫🇷 🇫🇷🇫🇷 (U10012)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 10 minutes ago
Liverpool have looked pretty average while picking up 3 points. So either their luck will run out and they;ll slip back, or they'll find the performance to go with the results and seriously threaten, and perhaps overtake, City.
Either way they're a notch ahead of the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, imo.
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They have been very good defensively and I think this is what made the difference so far.
The Xmas period and possibly injuries to key player should bring some to whether or not they are still contender.
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VVD has made big difference to their defending. They were almost Arsenal-esq before he signed.
We need to follow suit. Pick a defender and go all out for him.
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 ...IAWT... 🇫🇷 🇫🇷🇫🇷 (U10012)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 10 minutes ago
Liverpool have looked pretty average while picking up 3 points. So either their luck will run out and they;ll slip back, or they'll find the performance to go with the results and seriously threaten, and perhaps overtake, City.
Either way they're a notch ahead of the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, imo.
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They have been very good defensively and I think this is what made the difference so far.
The Xmas period and possibly injuries to key player should bring some to whether or not they are still contender.
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VVD has made big difference to their defending. They were almost Arsenal-esq before he signed.
We need to follow suit. Pick a defender and go all out for him.
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Should put a bid for Alderweireld. Still have a good 3-4 years in him.
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 ...IAWT... 🇫🇷 🇫🇷🇫🇷 (U10012)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 10 minutes ago
Liverpool have looked pretty average while picking up 3 points. So either their luck will run out and they;ll slip back, or they'll find the performance to go with the results and seriously threaten, and perhaps overtake, City.
Either way they're a notch ahead of the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, imo.
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They have been very good defensively and I think this is what made the difference so far.
The Xmas period and possibly injuries to key player should bring some to whether or not they are still contender.
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VVD has made big difference to their defending. They were almost Arsenal-esq before he signed.
We need to follow suit. Pick a defender and go all out for him.
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The goalkeeper has also made a difference. With Mignolet and Karius we would have dropped points and lost a few games.
Robbo and Gomez are good defenders. Our weak link is TAA.
We have played 4231 which is not a good system for the players we have. Last year we played 433 most of the time.
comment by The Mane Man ( life at this age is rubbish with no money #needajob) (U19731)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 ...IAWT... 🇫🇷 🇫🇷🇫🇷 (U10012)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 10 minutes ago
Liverpool have looked pretty average while picking up 3 points. So either their luck will run out and they;ll slip back, or they'll find the performance to go with the results and seriously threaten, and perhaps overtake, City.
Either way they're a notch ahead of the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, imo.
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They have been very good defensively and I think this is what made the difference so far.
The Xmas period and possibly injuries to key player should bring some to whether or not they are still contender.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
VVD has made big difference to their defending. They were almost Arsenal-esq before he signed.
We need to follow suit. Pick a defender and go all out for him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The goalkeeper has also made a difference. With Mignolet and Karius we would have dropped points and lost a few games.
Robbo and Gomez are good defenders. Our weak link is TAA.
We have played 4231 which is not a good system for the players we have. Last year we played 433 most of the time.
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Aye true. Defense is now sorted. Some will say it's a heck of a lot of money, but it's improved your defence a hundred fold so why not.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 18 minutes ago
City and Liverpool are ahead of Arsenal. I agree. The rest not.
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Well said it my Teutonic friend
Liverpool havent performed to the level they can, and most probably will eventually.
I agree a switch to 433 will aid our front 3, and well push City all the way this season.
A number of players are not still at the top of their form also, yet still only 2 off City, conceded only 5 goals all season, and 9 clean sheets from 14 games.
With a level of performance like that from your back line, your always going to be there or there abouts.
After City and Liverpool, there is then a gap to the rest, and it will an interesting fight between Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, and possibly United for the 2 remaining places in that top 4.
Think Chelsea and Man Utd are the most vounerable and most likely to miss out unfortunately.
Liverpool havent performed to the level they can, and most probably will eventually.
============
We played 14 league games so far and we all are still expecting them to "click", despite not much changes in personal.
Could it be that last season form was mainly due to Salah wonder season? Same way as they had that wonderful season with Suarez?
Don't get me wrong, they are still miles better than the rest (apart from City), but maybe, just maybe this is their actual level (which would still be impressive).
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 9 minutes ago
Liverpool havent performed to the level they can, and most probably will eventually.
I agree a switch to 433 will aid our front 3, and well push City all the way this season.
A number of players are not still at the top of their form also, yet still only 2 off City, conceded only 5 goals all season, and 9 clean sheets from 14 games.
With a level of performance like that from your back line, your always going to be there or there abouts.
After City and Liverpool, there is then a gap to the rest, and it will an interesting fight between Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, and possibly United for the 2 remaining places in that top 4.
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I don't really buy into this argument that Liverpool haven't hit top form. I think this is the way they are playing this season, more defensively solid and less onus on the attack.
comment by 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 ...IAWT... 🇫🇷 🇫🇷🇫🇷 (U10012)
posted 3 minutes ago
Liverpool havent performed to the level they can, and most probably will eventually.
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We played 14 league games so far and we all are still expecting them to "click", despite not much changes in personal.
Could it be that last season form was mainly due to Salah wonder season? Same way as they had that wonderful season with Suarez?
Don't get me wrong, they are still miles better than the rest (apart from City), but maybe, just maybe this is their actual level (which would still be impressive).
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Unsure if we'll hit the heights of last season but we didn't really click until late November then either so hard to say.
Yeah we've actually only scored one less goal than at this stage last season. But also conceded 13 less.
The arsenal manager looks like he should be on to catch a Predator, greasy hair mfker
1. City, Liverpool
2. Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs
3. Everton, Wolves, Bournemouth
4. West Ham, Man United
Aye. That’s decent effort m8. Worth a sharticle on its own merit
comment by Lacazade and Coca Kola (U10303)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 9 minutes ago
Liverpool havent performed to the level they can, and most probably will eventually.
I agree a switch to 433 will aid our front 3, and well push City all the way this season.
A number of players are not still at the top of their form also, yet still only 2 off City, conceded only 5 goals all season, and 9 clean sheets from 14 games.
With a level of performance like that from your back line, your always going to be there or there abouts.
After City and Liverpool, there is then a gap to the rest, and it will an interesting fight between Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, and possibly United for the 2 remaining places in that top 4.
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I don't really buy into this argument that Liverpool haven't hit top form. I think this is the way they are playing this season, more defensively solid and less onus on the attack.
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Obviously there has been a more pragmatic approach from Klopp this season, which will obviously effect some aspects of our forward play, but there is no getting away from the fact certain players are not playing to their usual level.
Beyond the first 8 games last season, we had pretty much the best defensive record in the league in the remaining 30 games of last season, so for me there wasn't that much that needed changing anyway.
To put Liverpool up with City means you think they are guareenteed 2nd. While they may get it, I haven't seen anything special this season that suggests they deserve such a high praise.
comment by Lacazade and Coca Kola (U10303)
posted 2 minutes ago
To put Liverpool up with City means you think they are guareenteed 2nd. While they may get it, I haven't seen anything special this season that suggests they deserve such a high praise.
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We're not guaranteed it but we're probably more well equipped than other teams to get it. Best defence in the league and still scoring goals.
City ahead of everyone.
Liverpool may be ahead of the others, time will tell. Slightly changed my opinion on how good they are. They definitely should be more points behind City and closer to the rest than they are.
Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea are difficult to separate so far.
United definitely below the pack with Mourinho having one of his usual difficult third seasons.
All can change during this season with, in my opinion, the exception of City being better than everyone.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
City ahead of everyone.
Liverpool may be ahead of the others, time will tell. Slightly changed my opinion on how good they are. They definitely should be more points behind City and closer to the rest than they are.
Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea are difficult to separate so far.
United definitely below the pack with Mourinho having one of his usual difficult third seasons.
All can change during this season with, in my opinion, the exception of City being better than everyone.
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There is no reason whatsoever why Liverpool should have less points, and be closer to Spurs etc.
That comment makes no sense.
Spurs have lost 4 games, Liverpool have lost none, so how you come to an assessment that Liverpool should be anywhere other than where they are, is just plain silly.
comment by Lacazade and Coca Kola (U10303)
posted 13 minutes ago
To put Liverpool up with City means you think they are guareenteed 2nd. While they may get it, I haven't seen anything special this season that suggests they deserve such a high praise.
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Nobody is gaurenteed anything, but you can only judge by what the table tells you.
And at this time, it shows both City, and Liverpool, are so far better than the rest.
Liverpool are within a win of going top, but wouldn't drop a place if they lost, so there is a measurable gap up to now.
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posted on 3/12/18
1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. Man Utd are a disgrace. The way that year after year they are allowed to get away with multi million mistakes like Berbatov, Veron, Di Maria, Martial, Falcao, Fred, Lukaku and Pogba whereas we have to persevere with our investments is disgusting.
They really should give us a guard of honour as well the three points.
posted on 3/12/18
"They really should give us a guard of honour as well the three points."
posted on 3/12/18
Liverpool have looked pretty average while picking up 3 points. So either their luck will run out and they;ll slip back, or they'll find the performance to go with the results and seriously threaten, and perhaps overtake, City.
Either way they're a notch ahead of the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, imo.
posted on 3/12/18
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 10 minutes ago
Liverpool have looked pretty average while picking up 3 points. So either their luck will run out and they;ll slip back, or they'll find the performance to go with the results and seriously threaten, and perhaps overtake, City.
Either way they're a notch ahead of the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, imo.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They have been very good defensively and I think this is what made the difference so far.
The Xmas period and possibly injuries to key player should bring some to whether or not they are still contender.
posted on 3/12/18
City and Liverpool are ahead of Arsenal. I agree. The rest not.
posted on 3/12/18
comment by 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 ...IAWT... 🇫🇷 🇫🇷🇫🇷 (U10012)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 10 minutes ago
Liverpool have looked pretty average while picking up 3 points. So either their luck will run out and they;ll slip back, or they'll find the performance to go with the results and seriously threaten, and perhaps overtake, City.
Either way they're a notch ahead of the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, imo.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They have been very good defensively and I think this is what made the difference so far.
The Xmas period and possibly injuries to key player should bring some to whether or not they are still contender.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
VVD has made big difference to their defending. They were almost Arsenal-esq before he signed.
We need to follow suit. Pick a defender and go all out for him.
posted on 3/12/18
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 ...IAWT... 🇫🇷 🇫🇷🇫🇷 (U10012)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 10 minutes ago
Liverpool have looked pretty average while picking up 3 points. So either their luck will run out and they;ll slip back, or they'll find the performance to go with the results and seriously threaten, and perhaps overtake, City.
Either way they're a notch ahead of the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, imo.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They have been very good defensively and I think this is what made the difference so far.
The Xmas period and possibly injuries to key player should bring some to whether or not they are still contender.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
VVD has made big difference to their defending. They were almost Arsenal-esq before he signed.
We need to follow suit. Pick a defender and go all out for him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Should put a bid for Alderweireld. Still have a good 3-4 years in him.
posted on 3/12/18
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 ...IAWT... 🇫🇷 🇫🇷🇫🇷 (U10012)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 10 minutes ago
Liverpool have looked pretty average while picking up 3 points. So either their luck will run out and they;ll slip back, or they'll find the performance to go with the results and seriously threaten, and perhaps overtake, City.
Either way they're a notch ahead of the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, imo.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They have been very good defensively and I think this is what made the difference so far.
The Xmas period and possibly injuries to key player should bring some to whether or not they are still contender.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
VVD has made big difference to their defending. They were almost Arsenal-esq before he signed.
We need to follow suit. Pick a defender and go all out for him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The goalkeeper has also made a difference. With Mignolet and Karius we would have dropped points and lost a few games.
Robbo and Gomez are good defenders. Our weak link is TAA.
We have played 4231 which is not a good system for the players we have. Last year we played 433 most of the time.
posted on 3/12/18
comment by The Mane Man ( life at this age is rubbish with no money #needajob) (U19731)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 ...IAWT... 🇫🇷 🇫🇷🇫🇷 (U10012)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© - In Unai We Trust (U1410)
posted 10 minutes ago
Liverpool have looked pretty average while picking up 3 points. So either their luck will run out and they;ll slip back, or they'll find the performance to go with the results and seriously threaten, and perhaps overtake, City.
Either way they're a notch ahead of the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, imo.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They have been very good defensively and I think this is what made the difference so far.
The Xmas period and possibly injuries to key player should bring some to whether or not they are still contender.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
VVD has made big difference to their defending. They were almost Arsenal-esq before he signed.
We need to follow suit. Pick a defender and go all out for him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The goalkeeper has also made a difference. With Mignolet and Karius we would have dropped points and lost a few games.
Robbo and Gomez are good defenders. Our weak link is TAA.
We have played 4231 which is not a good system for the players we have. Last year we played 433 most of the time.
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Aye true. Defense is now sorted. Some will say it's a heck of a lot of money, but it's improved your defence a hundred fold so why not.
posted on 3/12/18
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 18 minutes ago
City and Liverpool are ahead of Arsenal. I agree. The rest not.
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Well said it my Teutonic friend
posted on 3/12/18
Liverpool havent performed to the level they can, and most probably will eventually.
I agree a switch to 433 will aid our front 3, and well push City all the way this season.
A number of players are not still at the top of their form also, yet still only 2 off City, conceded only 5 goals all season, and 9 clean sheets from 14 games.
With a level of performance like that from your back line, your always going to be there or there abouts.
After City and Liverpool, there is then a gap to the rest, and it will an interesting fight between Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, and possibly United for the 2 remaining places in that top 4.
posted on 3/12/18
Think Chelsea and Man Utd are the most vounerable and most likely to miss out unfortunately.
posted on 3/12/18
Liverpool havent performed to the level they can, and most probably will eventually.
============
We played 14 league games so far and we all are still expecting them to "click", despite not much changes in personal.
Could it be that last season form was mainly due to Salah wonder season? Same way as they had that wonderful season with Suarez?
Don't get me wrong, they are still miles better than the rest (apart from City), but maybe, just maybe this is their actual level (which would still be impressive).
posted on 3/12/18
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 9 minutes ago
Liverpool havent performed to the level they can, and most probably will eventually.
I agree a switch to 433 will aid our front 3, and well push City all the way this season.
A number of players are not still at the top of their form also, yet still only 2 off City, conceded only 5 goals all season, and 9 clean sheets from 14 games.
With a level of performance like that from your back line, your always going to be there or there abouts.
After City and Liverpool, there is then a gap to the rest, and it will an interesting fight between Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, and possibly United for the 2 remaining places in that top 4.
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I don't really buy into this argument that Liverpool haven't hit top form. I think this is the way they are playing this season, more defensively solid and less onus on the attack.
posted on 3/12/18
comment by 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 ...IAWT... 🇫🇷 🇫🇷🇫🇷 (U10012)
posted 3 minutes ago
Liverpool havent performed to the level they can, and most probably will eventually.
============
We played 14 league games so far and we all are still expecting them to "click", despite not much changes in personal.
Could it be that last season form was mainly due to Salah wonder season? Same way as they had that wonderful season with Suarez?
Don't get me wrong, they are still miles better than the rest (apart from City), but maybe, just maybe this is their actual level (which would still be impressive).
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Unsure if we'll hit the heights of last season but we didn't really click until late November then either so hard to say.
posted on 3/12/18
Yeah we've actually only scored one less goal than at this stage last season. But also conceded 13 less.
posted on 3/12/18
The arsenal manager looks like he should be on to catch a Predator, greasy hair mfker
posted on 3/12/18
1. City, Liverpool
2. Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs
3. Everton, Wolves, Bournemouth
4. West Ham, Man United
posted on 3/12/18
Aye. That’s decent effort m8. Worth a sharticle on its own merit
posted on 3/12/18
comment by Lacazade and Coca Kola (U10303)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 9 minutes ago
Liverpool havent performed to the level they can, and most probably will eventually.
I agree a switch to 433 will aid our front 3, and well push City all the way this season.
A number of players are not still at the top of their form also, yet still only 2 off City, conceded only 5 goals all season, and 9 clean sheets from 14 games.
With a level of performance like that from your back line, your always going to be there or there abouts.
After City and Liverpool, there is then a gap to the rest, and it will an interesting fight between Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, and possibly United for the 2 remaining places in that top 4.
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I don't really buy into this argument that Liverpool haven't hit top form. I think this is the way they are playing this season, more defensively solid and less onus on the attack.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Obviously there has been a more pragmatic approach from Klopp this season, which will obviously effect some aspects of our forward play, but there is no getting away from the fact certain players are not playing to their usual level.
Beyond the first 8 games last season, we had pretty much the best defensive record in the league in the remaining 30 games of last season, so for me there wasn't that much that needed changing anyway.
posted on 3/12/18
To put Liverpool up with City means you think they are guareenteed 2nd. While they may get it, I haven't seen anything special this season that suggests they deserve such a high praise.
posted on 3/12/18
comment by Lacazade and Coca Kola (U10303)
posted 2 minutes ago
To put Liverpool up with City means you think they are guareenteed 2nd. While they may get it, I haven't seen anything special this season that suggests they deserve such a high praise.
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We're not guaranteed it but we're probably more well equipped than other teams to get it. Best defence in the league and still scoring goals.
posted on 3/12/18
City ahead of everyone.
Liverpool may be ahead of the others, time will tell. Slightly changed my opinion on how good they are. They definitely should be more points behind City and closer to the rest than they are.
Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea are difficult to separate so far.
United definitely below the pack with Mourinho having one of his usual difficult third seasons.
All can change during this season with, in my opinion, the exception of City being better than everyone.
posted on 3/12/18
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
City ahead of everyone.
Liverpool may be ahead of the others, time will tell. Slightly changed my opinion on how good they are. They definitely should be more points behind City and closer to the rest than they are.
Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea are difficult to separate so far.
United definitely below the pack with Mourinho having one of his usual difficult third seasons.
All can change during this season with, in my opinion, the exception of City being better than everyone.
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There is no reason whatsoever why Liverpool should have less points, and be closer to Spurs etc.
That comment makes no sense.
Spurs have lost 4 games, Liverpool have lost none, so how you come to an assessment that Liverpool should be anywhere other than where they are, is just plain silly.
posted on 3/12/18
comment by Lacazade and Coca Kola (U10303)
posted 13 minutes ago
To put Liverpool up with City means you think they are guareenteed 2nd. While they may get it, I haven't seen anything special this season that suggests they deserve such a high praise.
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Nobody is gaurenteed anything, but you can only judge by what the table tells you.
And at this time, it shows both City, and Liverpool, are so far better than the rest.
Liverpool are within a win of going top, but wouldn't drop a place if they lost, so there is a measurable gap up to now.
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