Ronaldo isn't even the best footballer called Ronaldo. That's how poor he is.
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Jose Mourinho, I totally agree mate. I think Kane is better, although Aguero is outstanding. If Kane was called Kaneinho and was from the slums of Brazil, more people would be hailing him as the best striker in the world. It’s just not fashionable to rate an outstanding England player unfortunately to some people.
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That's a bit of a worn, Daily Mail-type cliché, imo. Very often the precise opposte is true.
Beyond nationality, people's attention simply tends to be drawn more towards the 'electric', flair players, which is what Agüero has over Kane.
English/British footballers tend to be less showy, but you only need look at the sort of attention players like Bale attract to see that it's not so. Jadon Sancho is fortunate he's making his breakthrough in Germany, because otherwise the media frenzy in the UK would be totally unbearable.
Not saying that's exclusive to England, mind. Every country does it when it's 'one of their own'.
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Broz cmon, you're the most guilty out of anyone i've seen for downplaying english players/teams and overplaying foreign players/teams
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comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 9 minutes ago
Jose Mourinho, I totally agree mate. I think Kane is better, although Aguero is outstanding. If Kane was called Kaneinho and was from the slums of Brazil, more people would be hailing him as the best striker in the world. It’s just not fashionable to rate an outstanding England player unfortunately to some people.
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That's a bit of a worn, Daily Mail-type cliché, imo. Very often the precise opposte is true.
Beyond nationality, people's attention simply tends to be drawn more towards the 'electric', flair players, which is what Agüero has over Kane.
English/British footballers tend to be less showy, but you only need look at the sort of attention players like Bale attract to see that it's not so. Jadon Sancho is fortunate he's making his breakthrough in Germany, because otherwise the media frenzy in the UK would be totally unbearable.
Not saying that's exclusive to England, mind. Every country does it when it's 'one of their own'.
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Spot on
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Broz cmon, you're the most guilty out of anyone i've seen for downplaying english players/teams and overplaying foreign players/teams
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Wahl what do you prefer English or foreign managers?
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows. (U21750)
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comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 9 minutes ago
Jose Mourinho, I totally agree mate. I think Kane is better, although Aguero is outstanding. If Kane was called Kaneinho and was from the slums of Brazil, more people would be hailing him as the best striker in the world. It’s just not fashionable to rate an outstanding England player unfortunately to some people.
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That's a bit of a worn, Daily Mail-type cliché, imo. Very often the precise opposte is true.
Beyond nationality, people's attention simply tends to be drawn more towards the 'electric', flair players, which is what Agüero has over Kane.
English/British footballers tend to be less showy, but you only need look at the sort of attention players like Bale attract to see that it's not so. Jadon Sancho is fortunate he's making his breakthrough in Germany, because otherwise the media frenzy in the UK would be totally unbearable.
Not saying that's exclusive to England, mind. Every country does it when it's 'one of their own'.
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Spot on
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Broz cmon, you're the most guilty out of anyone i've seen for downplaying english players/teams and overplaying foreign players/teams
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He’s right though. The hype in the media around English players is silly at times.
It's more a law of averages, really, Wahl. There are 66 million people in the UK versus 7.7 billion worldwide.
Not sure what numbers that might throw up in terms of registered footballers, and I'm aware there's a bigger football tradition in Blighty than in most places, but you'd still kinda expect the rest of the world to produce more talent overall.
it's not just that though. Broz ALWAYS overhypes non English teams and downplays English teams.Sorry broz, I love ya man, but it's true you always do.
itsbronly, I think English players are underrated by Englishmen more than anything as well. I get the sense players like Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard are rated higher outside England than they are in their own country.
As I said before it looks like spurs fans are drastically overrating Kane’s technical ability. (Just look at his corners and free kicks over the years) guy was a running meme at Euro 2016.
Great player but not technically on the highest level as someone said earlier. Kane on the same level as Messi technically? No chance.
Probably the best finisher(other than Messi) in the world right now though. Everything he does usually finds a way into the net(World Cup as an example).
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itsbronly, I think English players are underrated by Englishmen more than anything as well. I get the sense players like Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard are rated higher outside England than they are in their own country.
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Since when were they not rated in England?
Think you're confusing tribal banter and the fact they never managed to blend into a midfield together to bring England some long overdue international success might have tainted some people's view, but by and large I'd say they're still probably held in higher regard in England than anywhere else in the world - for the very simple reasons that they're both your own and played their entire careers over there.
Wahl, you'd be surprised at just how common some nationalist tropes are everywhere in the world.
You'd be surprised by just how many exact equivalents there are in Spanish of the self-deprecating expressions you use that start with "Only in England...".
I think the tribal thing is more than banter and it does factor into it and does taint people's views on certain players. look at Sir Alex Ferguson saying Steven Gerrard wasn't a great player or whatever he said. So many English people agreed with that and it was absolute nonsense. I remember I once said that I thought Gerrard was on the same level as Xavi and Iniesta in their primes and I was laughed at. I accept there are things Xavi and Iniesta could do that Gerrard couldn't, but the reverse is true as well. It's an example of the grass always looking greener on the other side. English fans love to highlight the flaws of their own players and ignore the flaws of other players. For example, I doubt outside the UK many people would say Steven Gerrard wasn't a great player.
Kane is another great example. What can Kane not do that Lewandowski or Aguero can do. Not much. And he can do things Aguero certainly can't do. Yet English fans will get on Kane's case if he has a bad game far more than if Aguero has a bad game. No one even cares if Aguero has a bad game. And that again feeds into the way people rate these players and why Kane is always rated lower despite being, in my opinion, the better player. The banter actually alters people's perceptions of how good these players are.
^ what a waste of time reading that none of just happens.
Steven Gerrard is considered in this country as one of the top 3 or 4 midfielders of the last 20 years
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posted on 4/1/19
Ronaldo isn't even the best footballer called Ronaldo. That's how poor he is.
posted on 4/1/19
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 9 minutes ago
Jose Mourinho, I totally agree mate. I think Kane is better, although Aguero is outstanding. If Kane was called Kaneinho and was from the slums of Brazil, more people would be hailing him as the best striker in the world. It’s just not fashionable to rate an outstanding England player unfortunately to some people.
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That's a bit of a worn, Daily Mail-type cliché, imo. Very often the precise opposte is true.
Beyond nationality, people's attention simply tends to be drawn more towards the 'electric', flair players, which is what Agüero has over Kane.
English/British footballers tend to be less showy, but you only need look at the sort of attention players like Bale attract to see that it's not so. Jadon Sancho is fortunate he's making his breakthrough in Germany, because otherwise the media frenzy in the UK would be totally unbearable.
Not saying that's exclusive to England, mind. Every country does it when it's 'one of their own'.
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Spot on
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Broz cmon, you're the most guilty out of anyone i've seen for downplaying english players/teams and overplaying foreign players/teams
posted on 4/1/19
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows. (U21750)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 9 minutes ago
Jose Mourinho, I totally agree mate. I think Kane is better, although Aguero is outstanding. If Kane was called Kaneinho and was from the slums of Brazil, more people would be hailing him as the best striker in the world. It’s just not fashionable to rate an outstanding England player unfortunately to some people.
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That's a bit of a worn, Daily Mail-type cliché, imo. Very often the precise opposte is true.
Beyond nationality, people's attention simply tends to be drawn more towards the 'electric', flair players, which is what Agüero has over Kane.
English/British footballers tend to be less showy, but you only need look at the sort of attention players like Bale attract to see that it's not so. Jadon Sancho is fortunate he's making his breakthrough in Germany, because otherwise the media frenzy in the UK would be totally unbearable.
Not saying that's exclusive to England, mind. Every country does it when it's 'one of their own'.
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Spot on
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Broz cmon, you're the most guilty out of anyone i've seen for downplaying english players/teams and overplaying foreign players/teams
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Wahl what do you prefer English or foreign managers?
posted on 4/1/19
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows. (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 9 minutes ago
Jose Mourinho, I totally agree mate. I think Kane is better, although Aguero is outstanding. If Kane was called Kaneinho and was from the slums of Brazil, more people would be hailing him as the best striker in the world. It’s just not fashionable to rate an outstanding England player unfortunately to some people.
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That's a bit of a worn, Daily Mail-type cliché, imo. Very often the precise opposte is true.
Beyond nationality, people's attention simply tends to be drawn more towards the 'electric', flair players, which is what Agüero has over Kane.
English/British footballers tend to be less showy, but you only need look at the sort of attention players like Bale attract to see that it's not so. Jadon Sancho is fortunate he's making his breakthrough in Germany, because otherwise the media frenzy in the UK would be totally unbearable.
Not saying that's exclusive to England, mind. Every country does it when it's 'one of their own'.
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Spot on
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Broz cmon, you're the most guilty out of anyone i've seen for downplaying english players/teams and overplaying foreign players/teams
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He’s right though. The hype in the media around English players is silly at times.
posted on 4/1/19
It's more a law of averages, really, Wahl. There are 66 million people in the UK versus 7.7 billion worldwide.
Not sure what numbers that might throw up in terms of registered footballers, and I'm aware there's a bigger football tradition in Blighty than in most places, but you'd still kinda expect the rest of the world to produce more talent overall.
posted on 4/1/19
it's not just that though. Broz ALWAYS overhypes non English teams and downplays English teams.Sorry broz, I love ya man, but it's true you always do.
posted on 4/1/19
itsbronly, I think English players are underrated by Englishmen more than anything as well. I get the sense players like Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard are rated higher outside England than they are in their own country.
posted on 4/1/19
As I said before it looks like spurs fans are drastically overrating Kane’s technical ability. (Just look at his corners and free kicks over the years) guy was a running meme at Euro 2016.
Great player but not technically on the highest level as someone said earlier. Kane on the same level as Messi technically? No chance.
Probably the best finisher(other than Messi) in the world right now though. Everything he does usually finds a way into the net(World Cup as an example).
posted on 4/1/19
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows. (U21750)
posted 5 minutes ago
itsbronly, I think English players are underrated by Englishmen more than anything as well. I get the sense players like Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard are rated higher outside England than they are in their own country.
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Since when were they not rated in England?
Think you're confusing tribal banter and the fact they never managed to blend into a midfield together to bring England some long overdue international success might have tainted some people's view, but by and large I'd say they're still probably held in higher regard in England than anywhere else in the world - for the very simple reasons that they're both your own and played their entire careers over there.
Wahl, you'd be surprised at just how common some nationalist tropes are everywhere in the world.
You'd be surprised by just how many exact equivalents there are in Spanish of the self-deprecating expressions you use that start with "Only in England...".
posted on 4/1/19
I think the tribal thing is more than banter and it does factor into it and does taint people's views on certain players. look at Sir Alex Ferguson saying Steven Gerrard wasn't a great player or whatever he said. So many English people agreed with that and it was absolute nonsense. I remember I once said that I thought Gerrard was on the same level as Xavi and Iniesta in their primes and I was laughed at. I accept there are things Xavi and Iniesta could do that Gerrard couldn't, but the reverse is true as well. It's an example of the grass always looking greener on the other side. English fans love to highlight the flaws of their own players and ignore the flaws of other players. For example, I doubt outside the UK many people would say Steven Gerrard wasn't a great player.
Kane is another great example. What can Kane not do that Lewandowski or Aguero can do. Not much. And he can do things Aguero certainly can't do. Yet English fans will get on Kane's case if he has a bad game far more than if Aguero has a bad game. No one even cares if Aguero has a bad game. And that again feeds into the way people rate these players and why Kane is always rated lower despite being, in my opinion, the better player. The banter actually alters people's perceptions of how good these players are.
posted on 4/1/19
^ what a waste of time reading that none of just happens.
Steven Gerrard is considered in this country as one of the top 3 or 4 midfielders of the last 20 years
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posted on 5/1/19
I would rather be Sergio Aguero than playing as a Spurs player.Aguero is much more good looking and also was the son-in-law of Diego Armando Maradona.
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