Could be a very good signing imo
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Could be a very good signing imo
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One article I will happily have thrown back at me at the end of the season.
Think it’ll go the same way as Shevchenko & Falcao.
Can't get worse than Morata and you've not signed him on a permanent either.
It's a pretty low risk signing.. 6 month loan with option to extend a year for a year if he does well.
For years we've wanted the board to back the manager.. It's the man Sarri wanted.. the board have backed him.
He'll definitely be an upgrade on Morata and Giroud and gets Hazard out of the false 9 position meaning there's a front 3 of Hazard-Higuain-Pedro all in their best positions.
When you say about giving one of our own a chance I assume you're referring to Abraham.. he's doing it in the Championship.. not the PL.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the whole article.
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comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 49 minutes ago
Think it’ll go the same way as Shevchenko & Falcao.
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And Torres....
comment by Garden of Eden (U22029)
posted 48 minutes ago
It's a pretty low risk signing.. 6 month loan with option to extend a year for a year if he does well.
For years we've wanted the board to back the manager.. It's the man Sarri wanted.. the board have backed him.
He'll definitely be an upgrade on Morata and Giroud and gets Hazard out of the false 9 position meaning there's a front 3 of Hazard-Higuain-Pedro all in their best positions.
When you say about giving one of our own a chance I assume you're referring to Abraham.. he's doing it in the Championship.. not the PL.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the whole article.
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How can you say it's a low risk signing and that he can't be worse than the present strike force we have?
He can easily be as bad and his wages are probably not going to be cheap.
There was only one viable low risk option to take but I don't need to mention his name.
There will never be a better time to try him!
This article has it spot on!
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 26 minutes ago
He’s not overweight lol
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He looked it in the pictures I've seen!
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Think it’ll go the same way as Shevchenko & Falcao.
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Add Pato to that list
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
Think it’ll go the same way as Shevchenko & Falcao.
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You hope.
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Think it’ll go the same way as Shevchenko & Falcao.
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Add Pato to that list
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1 in 2 goal ratio is nothing to dismiss
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Think it’ll go the same way as Shevchenko & Falcao.
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Add Pato to that list
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1 in 2 goal ratio is nothing to dismiss
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Means nothing - his goal ratio over the last two seasons is more relevant!
1 in 2 for Juve last season too
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 3 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Garden of Eden (U22029)
posted 48 minutes ago
It's a pretty low risk signing.. 6 month loan with option to extend a year for a year if he does well.
For years we've wanted the board to back the manager.. It's the man Sarri wanted.. the board have backed him.
He'll definitely be an upgrade on Morata and Giroud and gets Hazard out of the false 9 position meaning there's a front 3 of Hazard-Higuain-Pedro all in their best positions.
When you say about giving one of our own a chance I assume you're referring to Abraham.. he's doing it in the Championship.. not the PL.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the whole article.
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How can you say it's a low risk signing and that he can't be worse than the present strike force we have?
He can easily be as bad and his wages are probably not going to be cheap.
There was only one viable low risk option to take but I don't need to mention his name.
There will never be a better time to try him!
This article has it spot on!
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The deal is low risk because unlike Morata who cost £58m.. Higuain cost £0.. yes the club will pay his wages but they can afford to and some.
He's very experienced in 2 top leagues and in the CL.
If you're suggesting Tammy is the man to secure top 4 then we simply can't agree.. If he wasn't a Chelsea player and the club signed him tonight for £40m I'm sure there would be majority on here slating the club for signing a championship player.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
Think it’ll go the same way as Shevchenko & Falcao.
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You hope.
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I don’t hope anything.
He’s bounced about and not found a home anywhere.
There was hardly a massive choice of top strikers available in January.
Higuain has played for big clubs, proven goal scorer. Not much out there that would have been an upgrade on him.
comment by Garden of Eden (U22029)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 3 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Garden of Eden (U22029)
posted 48 minutes ago
It's a pretty low risk signing.. 6 month loan with option to extend a year for a year if he does well.
For years we've wanted the board to back the manager.. It's the man Sarri wanted.. the board have backed him.
He'll definitely be an upgrade on Morata and Giroud and gets Hazard out of the false 9 position meaning there's a front 3 of Hazard-Higuain-Pedro all in their best positions.
When you say about giving one of our own a chance I assume you're referring to Abraham.. he's doing it in the Championship.. not the PL.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the whole article.
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How can you say it's a low risk signing and that he can't be worse than the present strike force we have?
He can easily be as bad and his wages are probably not going to be cheap.
There was only one viable low risk option to take but I don't need to mention his name.
There will never be a better time to try him!
This article has it spot on!
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The deal is low risk because unlike Morata who cost £58m.. Higuain cost £0.. yes the club will pay his wages but they can afford to and some.
He's very experienced in 2 top leagues and in the CL.
If you're suggesting Tammy is the man to secure top 4 then we simply can't agree.. If he wasn't a Chelsea player and the club signed him tonight for £40m I'm sure there would be majority on here slating the club for signing a championship player.
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Do not be fooled that Higuain will be costing us pounds zero. His loan fee is said to be £9m along with reputed wages of up to £270k a week.
If you revisit my comments, I've no way suggested he will shoot us into the top 4. He could easily flop but on the other hand he may not, The same can be said of Higuain.
And why have you bought up this comment?
"If he wasn't a Chelsea player and the club signed him tonight for £40m I'm sure there would be majority on here slating the club for signing a championship player".
What relevance has that got to do with anything? You've missed the whole point of recalling him, is that he actually does cost £0 and his wages almost certainly won't be anything like that, that Higuain.will be commanding.
Why on earth would anyone suggest we part with a £40m for a 21 year old?
I'm not sold on Higuain ether but this one falls very much in the category of calculated risk compared to recalling Abraham.
To date Abraham's only relevant PL experience was an underwhelming spell at Swansea, and the club can't use the Championship as a respectable indicator to bring a striker in who we need to be scoring goals right now - it would be like bringing Marelos from Rangers in and giving him this responsibility (SFL-Championship not to dissimilar quality level). For all I can say about my reservations on Higuain, he has the pedigree to handle this pressure, he desperately wanted the move, and a manager who more than most needs players he can trust knows him already. Weighing up those two options this was the right call in this case.
IMO Abraham should be our 2nd choice striker next season. Same position Kane was in at Spurs in 2014/15 for Spurs before he forced himself ahead of Adebayor. I want Abraham to force himself into the spot, not be gifted it which it precisely what recalling him now would've been, but that's just me.
Kane was in at Spurs in 2014/15 for Spurs
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To date Abraham's only relevant PL experience was an underwhelming spell at Swansea,
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Well to be honest, we shouldn't be concerned about what he did at Swansea, a team that were shocking and rightly relegated, they barely created anything for him to feed off. Likewise we shouldn't read to much about what he achieved at Bristol or what he's currently doing down the road from me.
What we need to find out is what in can do in our own team, he's shouldn't be loaned again and if we're not going to use him he needs to get away from us for the sake of his own career if he really wants to progress it.
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I want Abraham to force himself into the spot, not be gifted it which it precisely what recalling him now would've been, but that's just me.
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I find this comment a little bizarre, if he's not forcing himself into the spotlight now, what more precisely can he he do?
I also don't see how it would be described as 'gifting' him a spot. The whole point is, he is a Chelsea player and we don't have an effective striker who can score for us, so why shouldn't he be given the chance to prove himself? It's not like we have a strike force like Liverpool or Man City and we're giving him preferential treatment in front of a functioning strike force just because he's one of our own!
Yet again we've taken the easy option by putting trust elsewhere with no guarantee of success!
Personally I'd rather bring both Higuain and Tammy in right now as our strike force with both Morata and Giroud leaving this window. Especially as Giroud's contract is up at the end of the season anyway and almost certainly won't be renewed.
BrummieBlue, it's clear Morata's leaving and Sarri obviously doesn't fancy Giroud, so the striker we'd be getting this window (now Higuain) will likely start the majority of our games. It's a situation where Abraham would have come back as first choice striker which wouldn't have set well with me, if he failed to handle the responsibility he'd have almost certainly been sold in the summer.
I've always been of the mindset that young players should force their managers to transition them from 4th to 3rd to 2nd to 1st choice based on progressive performances, and loans are a convenient way to gauge where they'd fit in the chain without having to risk results at the parent club. With Giroud's contract up in the summer, Abraham's earned the right based off all his performances out on loan (including Swansea) to come into this team as a 2nd choice, but that's just my opinion.
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posted on 23/1/19
Could be a very good signing imo
posted on 23/1/19
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Could be a very good signing imo
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One article I will happily have thrown back at me at the end of the season.
posted on 23/1/19
Think it’ll go the same way as Shevchenko & Falcao.
posted on 23/1/19
Can't get worse than Morata and you've not signed him on a permanent either.
posted on 23/1/19
It's a pretty low risk signing.. 6 month loan with option to extend a year for a year if he does well.
For years we've wanted the board to back the manager.. It's the man Sarri wanted.. the board have backed him.
He'll definitely be an upgrade on Morata and Giroud and gets Hazard out of the false 9 position meaning there's a front 3 of Hazard-Higuain-Pedro all in their best positions.
When you say about giving one of our own a chance I assume you're referring to Abraham.. he's doing it in the Championship.. not the PL.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the whole article.
posted on 23/1/19
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posted on 23/1/19
He’s not overweight lol
posted on 23/1/19
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 49 minutes ago
Think it’ll go the same way as Shevchenko & Falcao.
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And Torres....
posted on 23/1/19
comment by Garden of Eden (U22029)
posted 48 minutes ago
It's a pretty low risk signing.. 6 month loan with option to extend a year for a year if he does well.
For years we've wanted the board to back the manager.. It's the man Sarri wanted.. the board have backed him.
He'll definitely be an upgrade on Morata and Giroud and gets Hazard out of the false 9 position meaning there's a front 3 of Hazard-Higuain-Pedro all in their best positions.
When you say about giving one of our own a chance I assume you're referring to Abraham.. he's doing it in the Championship.. not the PL.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the whole article.
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How can you say it's a low risk signing and that he can't be worse than the present strike force we have?
He can easily be as bad and his wages are probably not going to be cheap.
There was only one viable low risk option to take but I don't need to mention his name.
There will never be a better time to try him!
This article has it spot on!
posted on 23/1/19
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 26 minutes ago
He’s not overweight lol
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He looked it in the pictures I've seen!
posted on 23/1/19
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Think it’ll go the same way as Shevchenko & Falcao.
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Add Pato to that list
posted on 23/1/19
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
Think it’ll go the same way as Shevchenko & Falcao.
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You hope.
posted on 23/1/19
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Think it’ll go the same way as Shevchenko & Falcao.
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Add Pato to that list
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1 in 2 goal ratio is nothing to dismiss
posted on 23/1/19
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Think it’ll go the same way as Shevchenko & Falcao.
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Add Pato to that list
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1 in 2 goal ratio is nothing to dismiss
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Means nothing - his goal ratio over the last two seasons is more relevant!
posted on 23/1/19
1 in 2 for Juve last season too
posted on 23/1/19
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 3 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Garden of Eden (U22029)
posted 48 minutes ago
It's a pretty low risk signing.. 6 month loan with option to extend a year for a year if he does well.
For years we've wanted the board to back the manager.. It's the man Sarri wanted.. the board have backed him.
He'll definitely be an upgrade on Morata and Giroud and gets Hazard out of the false 9 position meaning there's a front 3 of Hazard-Higuain-Pedro all in their best positions.
When you say about giving one of our own a chance I assume you're referring to Abraham.. he's doing it in the Championship.. not the PL.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the whole article.
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How can you say it's a low risk signing and that he can't be worse than the present strike force we have?
He can easily be as bad and his wages are probably not going to be cheap.
There was only one viable low risk option to take but I don't need to mention his name.
There will never be a better time to try him!
This article has it spot on!
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The deal is low risk because unlike Morata who cost £58m.. Higuain cost £0.. yes the club will pay his wages but they can afford to and some.
He's very experienced in 2 top leagues and in the CL.
If you're suggesting Tammy is the man to secure top 4 then we simply can't agree.. If he wasn't a Chelsea player and the club signed him tonight for £40m I'm sure there would be majority on here slating the club for signing a championship player.
posted on 23/1/19
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
Think it’ll go the same way as Shevchenko & Falcao.
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You hope.
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I don’t hope anything.
He’s bounced about and not found a home anywhere.
posted on 23/1/19
There was hardly a massive choice of top strikers available in January.
Higuain has played for big clubs, proven goal scorer. Not much out there that would have been an upgrade on him.
posted on 23/1/19
comment by Garden of Eden (U22029)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 3 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Garden of Eden (U22029)
posted 48 minutes ago
It's a pretty low risk signing.. 6 month loan with option to extend a year for a year if he does well.
For years we've wanted the board to back the manager.. It's the man Sarri wanted.. the board have backed him.
He'll definitely be an upgrade on Morata and Giroud and gets Hazard out of the false 9 position meaning there's a front 3 of Hazard-Higuain-Pedro all in their best positions.
When you say about giving one of our own a chance I assume you're referring to Abraham.. he's doing it in the Championship.. not the PL.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the whole article.
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How can you say it's a low risk signing and that he can't be worse than the present strike force we have?
He can easily be as bad and his wages are probably not going to be cheap.
There was only one viable low risk option to take but I don't need to mention his name.
There will never be a better time to try him!
This article has it spot on!
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The deal is low risk because unlike Morata who cost £58m.. Higuain cost £0.. yes the club will pay his wages but they can afford to and some.
He's very experienced in 2 top leagues and in the CL.
If you're suggesting Tammy is the man to secure top 4 then we simply can't agree.. If he wasn't a Chelsea player and the club signed him tonight for £40m I'm sure there would be majority on here slating the club for signing a championship player.
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Do not be fooled that Higuain will be costing us pounds zero. His loan fee is said to be £9m along with reputed wages of up to £270k a week.
If you revisit my comments, I've no way suggested he will shoot us into the top 4. He could easily flop but on the other hand he may not, The same can be said of Higuain.
And why have you bought up this comment?
"If he wasn't a Chelsea player and the club signed him tonight for £40m I'm sure there would be majority on here slating the club for signing a championship player".
What relevance has that got to do with anything? You've missed the whole point of recalling him, is that he actually does cost £0 and his wages almost certainly won't be anything like that, that Higuain.will be commanding.
Why on earth would anyone suggest we part with a £40m for a 21 year old?
posted on 23/1/19
I'm not sold on Higuain ether but this one falls very much in the category of calculated risk compared to recalling Abraham.
To date Abraham's only relevant PL experience was an underwhelming spell at Swansea, and the club can't use the Championship as a respectable indicator to bring a striker in who we need to be scoring goals right now - it would be like bringing Marelos from Rangers in and giving him this responsibility (SFL-Championship not to dissimilar quality level). For all I can say about my reservations on Higuain, he has the pedigree to handle this pressure, he desperately wanted the move, and a manager who more than most needs players he can trust knows him already. Weighing up those two options this was the right call in this case.
IMO Abraham should be our 2nd choice striker next season. Same position Kane was in at Spurs in 2014/15 for Spurs before he forced himself ahead of Adebayor. I want Abraham to force himself into the spot, not be gifted it which it precisely what recalling him now would've been, but that's just me.
posted on 23/1/19
Kane was in at Spurs in 2014/15 for Spurs
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posted on 23/1/19
To date Abraham's only relevant PL experience was an underwhelming spell at Swansea,
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Well to be honest, we shouldn't be concerned about what he did at Swansea, a team that were shocking and rightly relegated, they barely created anything for him to feed off. Likewise we shouldn't read to much about what he achieved at Bristol or what he's currently doing down the road from me.
What we need to find out is what in can do in our own team, he's shouldn't be loaned again and if we're not going to use him he needs to get away from us for the sake of his own career if he really wants to progress it.
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I want Abraham to force himself into the spot, not be gifted it which it precisely what recalling him now would've been, but that's just me.
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I find this comment a little bizarre, if he's not forcing himself into the spotlight now, what more precisely can he he do?
I also don't see how it would be described as 'gifting' him a spot. The whole point is, he is a Chelsea player and we don't have an effective striker who can score for us, so why shouldn't he be given the chance to prove himself? It's not like we have a strike force like Liverpool or Man City and we're giving him preferential treatment in front of a functioning strike force just because he's one of our own!
Yet again we've taken the easy option by putting trust elsewhere with no guarantee of success!
posted on 23/1/19
Personally I'd rather bring both Higuain and Tammy in right now as our strike force with both Morata and Giroud leaving this window. Especially as Giroud's contract is up at the end of the season anyway and almost certainly won't be renewed.
posted on 24/1/19
BrummieBlue, it's clear Morata's leaving and Sarri obviously doesn't fancy Giroud, so the striker we'd be getting this window (now Higuain) will likely start the majority of our games. It's a situation where Abraham would have come back as first choice striker which wouldn't have set well with me, if he failed to handle the responsibility he'd have almost certainly been sold in the summer.
I've always been of the mindset that young players should force their managers to transition them from 4th to 3rd to 2nd to 1st choice based on progressive performances, and loans are a convenient way to gauge where they'd fit in the chain without having to risk results at the parent club. With Giroud's contract up in the summer, Abraham's earned the right based off all his performances out on loan (including Swansea) to come into this team as a 2nd choice, but that's just my opinion.
posted on 24/1/19
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